Mistakes in recruiting hurting SU


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Mistakes in recruiting hurting SU

By JOSEPH SCHIEFELBEIN
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Southern coach Ben Jobe says the Jaguars need to 'recruit five guys who can start right now.'
NORMAL, Ala. -- The only thing worse than the disaster on the court for the Southern University men's basketball team this season is the disaster off the court.

Southern, 4-11 and rated as the worst team in Division I, is so bad that coach Ben Jobe said the team needs to "recruit five guys who can start right now."

Undermining the Jaguars' chances of a turnaround this season and next season is the disaster of recruiting in spring 2002 -- perhaps the biggest blunder Jobe has made.

Southern signed five players, but none are with the team. Four of those were junior-college players who would be seniors next season. As it is, the Jaguars will have no seniors on the floor next season.

Only one of the signees -- 6-foot-8 forward Gabe Inglis -- even practiced or played with the team, but he left after appearing in three games in December. Another, 6-7 forward Kenan Oliver, signed in June, is instead playing for Division II Central Missouri State, where he's started seven games and averaging is 5.2 points and 4.7 rebounds per game.

The recruiting failure comes after Jobe said all last season, the worst in school history, that improving the talent level was the top priority.

Jobe and former assistant Otis Hughley, who left in September for a job in the Denver Nuggets organization, were in charge of landing players. Current assistants Lee Carney, hired in June, and Dale Valdery, hired in September, did not recruit the class.

"We didn't do a good job," Jobe said. "We have to pick the people better."

Despite the failure to land junior-college talent, Jobe said the program's lack of talent forces him to continue to recruit junior-college players.

"I just told (the assistants) we need to recruit so hard that we recruit a starting five," Jobe said. "We need to recruit five guys who can start right now. That's the only way I know to do it.

"Unfortunately, it cannot be high school kids."

Jobe said most prep players with enough talent to be a Division I starter likely would not choose Southern and that the program would not be able to attract enough to fill its needs.

"The good high school player -- we're not going to get him," Jobe said. "We might be able to get one.

"You can't survive with high school kids anymore, unless your program's already set."

Though unsuccessful with junior-college players last season, Jobe said the program would try that route again to land the bulk of its signees this season.

"We have to just do that again," Jobe said. "We just have to do a better job."

Four of the five signees last season were from junior colleges.

Only Inglis, who had played at two junior colleges, played for Southern. Inglis, who averaged 23.0 ppg at Globe Technical Institute in New York last season, averaged 5.0 points, 1.3 rebounds and 8.7 minutes in three games for the Jaguars. Jobe said Inglis left for personal reasons.

Jobe said three of the junior-college transfers did not qualify, even after attending summer school.

That statement would leave Oliver, 6-5 forward Travazz Buckley (16.5 ppg, 11.0 rpg at Faulkner State in Bay Minette, Ala.) and 6-6 forward Caleb Kennedy (16.5 ppg and 10.9 rpg as an honorable-mention All-American at Johnson County Community College in Overland Park, Kan.) as ineligible.

However, in October, Jobe said Kennedy would not play this season because he had suffered an ACL injury. Meanwhile, Oliver is playing for Central Missouri State.

The other signee was Kennedy's brother, Marcus, a 6-4 forward from John Carroll Catholic High in Birmingham, Ala. Jobe said in October that Marcus, named first-team All-Metro by the Birmingham Post-Herald and honorable mention all-state, "needs to be redshirted" but Jobe said in June that "one day, he will be a real exceptional player."

Jobe, who hasn't coached a winning team since 1997-98, is in the final season of a two-year deal. The school has an option for another two seasons with Jobe, who returned in April 2001 to the program he led to glory years in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

The school has not exercised that option, and Jobe said Saturday he was not thinking if he would or would not return next season, as has been his practice in a lifetime of coaching.

"I'm going to do the job the best I can, especially with the recruiting," Jobe said. "That's very important, regardless."
 
File this one under "things that should not be said in public". True or not, what does it say about Image at HBCU's? Better send Jim Dandy to the rescue...quick.
 



SUcks. A serious question. Will you all continue to keep this man around or will he leave with Pete? Because the two seems to try to wait around just for left-over transfers and when the barrel runs dry, they blame others for their incompetence. :smh:
 
They could write the same article about the football team and coach. When is the last time he recruited a good player?
 
Originally posted by Get Ready
They could write the same article about the football team and coach. When is the last time he recruited a good player?

When is the last time you won a championship?
 
Originally posted by BgJag


When is the last time you won a championship?

just making an obvious observation bruh.....dont hate the messenger. You probably wont believe it til the white man writes an article next year about your lack of talent on the football team too. Carry on.....
 
When you look up the word incompetence in the dictionary you'll see a picture of Ben Jobe. It's on page 327.
 
Originally posted by Get Ready


just making an obvious observation bruh.....dont hate the messenger. You probably wont beleive it til the white man writes an article next year about your lack of talent on the football team too. Carry on.....


GR, Pete has won 4 titles since he been at SOUTHERN. jSU has won only two. Our non recruiting coach has 4 rings, how many your last two have. Btw do they give out rings in Texas high schools?
 
Cleb,

TSU and winning is certainly an oxymoron. I know your feelings are hurt because S.U. has been running the SWAC for several years in track. It aint our fault that we have one of the best athletic programs in the country and the best in the SWAC as well as Black College athletics.

It aint our fault that we have won 3 out of the last 6 football titles.

It aint our fault that we are the only SWAC team to win a NCAA tourney basketball game in the last ten years.

It aint our fault that we are the defending indoor and outdoor track champions

It aint our fault that we are the defending SWAC baseball champions

It aint our fault that we are the National Flag football champions

It aint our fault that we house nearly all the commissioner cups.

It aint our fault that we have THE best baseball player in the country.

Lastly, It aint our fault that Turd Ward CC went to Japan and stole the white off of rice.
 
Hey JROCK,

since it's basketball season,

It's yall fault that you're 327!!!!


btw, bragging on flag football has got to be a first!!!!
:smh::smh:
 
why does every 327 basketball thread shifts toward football for some odd reason? Their so embarrassed that they will brag on a 6-6 season in football.

face it, football is over and you have one legal day to talk about it and that's next Wednesday. After that, we're back to the basketball race that your out of.

Bottom line, you claim your athletic department spends tons of cash but your getting nothing out of this basketball program. Might as well suit the girls up and let them play in their place.
 



Flag football? Man that is worser than Volleyball smack......

3 SWAC titles in the last 6 years, I have seen some word play. But SUcks hasn't smelled a SWAC football title in 3 years dude.....
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
bragging on flag football has got to be a first!!!!
:emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh:
You caught that too?!!!!!

LOL@BP and 327's legal day to talk about football!
 
Originally posted by JROCK

It aint our fault that we are the National Flag football champions


As Same Ole G would say....

"When all else fails..."


I could have sworn this thread was about 327? I guess it was actually about a history lesson about them instead.
 
It aint our fault that we are the only SWAC team to win a NCAA tourney basketball game in the last ten years.
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You had that seed thanks to Lindsey Hunter. The SWAC played the title game after selection Sunday and thought Jackson State was going to be in. But JSU also got the NIT win also over Conneticut.

It aint our fault that we are the defending indoor and outdoor track champions
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when the meet is in your backyard you can stack it to win.

It aint our fault that we are the defending SWAC baseball champions
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no one invested much in baseball until recently.

It aint our fault that we have THE best baseball player in the country.
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with a wood bat I would have to differ


you forgot this
It ain't our fault that we have America's worst baseketball team.
 
Yall are forgetting that they will win the Commissioners Cup. Nevermind their terrible football and basketball teams.

Lets look into the future:

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 7 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 8 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 9 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 10 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 11 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 12 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 13 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 14 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 15 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 16 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 17 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 18 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 19 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 20 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 50 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 65 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 74 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 79 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 83 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 89 titles

It aint our fault we have won 3 of the last 117 titles
 
Originally posted by Get Ready
They could write the same article about the football team and coach. When is the last time he recruited a good player?

Southern also received a bonus when former John Ehret-Marrero quarterback Bruce Petty, who completed his first season at Copiah-Lincoln Junior College, transferred to Southern and is trying to enroll for the spring semester. The 6-foot-3, 215-pounder enjoyed a banner senior season at John Ehret, completing 166-of-351 passes for 2,797 yards and 32 touchdowns. He was 91-of-154 for 1,308 yards and eight touchdowns at Copiah-Lincoln last season.

"He was fourth in our conference in (completion) percentage and fifth in yardage," Copiah-Lincoln coach Dave Poinsett said of Petty. "I think he's got a good future ahead of him."

The Jaguars added commitments from Rayne defensive back Willie Bias (6-3, 215), offensive lineman Lance Gerard (6-2, 296) of East St. John-LaPlace and Gerard Jacobs (6-5, 330) of Warren Easton-New Orleans, defensive lineman Ricky Nevers (6-3, 270) of East St. John-LaPlace, linebacker Darrius Coleman (6-0, 230) of Airline-Bossier City and tight end Fred Perkins (6-3, 230) of Copiah-Lincoln JC.

Bias, who is academically qualified and received interest from the University of Louisiana at Monroe, started for four years at Rayne. He played both cornerback and free safety and led the Wolves in interceptions with six, earning All-District 5-3A second team honors as a senior.

"He's a very athletic kid who's just starting to come into his own because of injuries," Rayne coach Keith Bergeron said. "He's a tall lanky kid who's involved in the physical part of the game."

Gerard, who is academically qualified and president of the school's student council, chose Southern over Alcorn State, Southern Illinois and Southeastern. He played both guard and center as a senior. Nevers will enter Southern as a non-qualifier after starting at defensive tackle last season, ESJ coach Larry Dauterive said.

Jacobs, who played center, guard and tackle as a senior, selected Southern over North Alabama, Southern Arkansas and Louisiana Tech. He was a two-time All-District 8-5A selection, All-Metro as a senior and participated in December's Orleans-Jefferson All-Star game.

"He's got great feet for a guy that big," Warren Easton coach Lee Green said of Jacobs, who is qualified academically. "He's a very coachable kid."

Coleman was Airline's leading tackler for the first six weeks of the season before breaking a bone in his leg. He went on to finish with 73 tackles to help the Vikings to a 9-3 record and Class 5A state regional appearance.

Coleman, who is qualified academically, started for three years at Airline, playing on both the offensive and defensive lines along with linebacker. He received interest from Central Arkansas, UL-Monroe and Northwestern State.

"He really wanted to go to Southern," Airline coach Mike Green said. "He's had that in his mind since he was a kid and he kind of closed everybody off. He wanted to go to Southern."

Perkins, who started in the outfield for Copiah-Lincoln's baseball team as a freshman, caught 14 passes for 172 yards and three touchdowns in his first year on the football team last year. He was a high school quarterback at Brookhaven (Miss.) during his senior season.
 
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