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Seeing Spots said:Although, I rarely agree with Get Ready, he is right, it was inappropriate to post this tragic incident on the Smack Board and "wrap it around" the demise of the football program at JSU. Assinine, in poor taste, idiotic, narrow minded, all that!
It is better to have this information posted here and the Prayer Board, but whenever happens "bad" at any HBCU, all of us are affected/effected. For those who seek to destory us, it gives them ammunition in their many attempts to diminish our purpose, our mission, our validity, our existence.
But let me remind all of you, when a similar incident happened at Southern University, it was in fact FODDER for the Smack Board, particularly and especially by the person who now deems it inappropriate.
Hmmmmm...funny how that happens.
Praying for the student shot, the shooter, their families and for the entire Jackson State University family.
True. That's were the situation could have been resolved. It's a sad situation, but if these kids realize you are a frat and not a gang situations like this want happen. Both parties were in the wrong. The fool should not have pulled a gun he needs his butt whipped for that, but the frat guys should have handled the situation differently also.jag4life said:I think what might be just as sad is that the Omegas got into a PHYSICAL altercation with dude about a damn BENCH.
CEE DOG said:True. That's were the situation could have been resolved. It's a sad situation, but if these kids realize you are a frat and not a gang situations like this want happen. Both parties were in the wrong. The fool should not have pulled a gun he needs his butt whipped for that, but the frat guys should have handled the situation differently also.
CEE DOG said:but if these kids realize you are a frat and not a gang situations like this want happen. .
BandFan said:It must have been something big for The Bruhz to follow him to a student center, fight him, and for ole boy to pull a gun out.
TRU3000 said:Im sorry but a 32 yr old is not a kid....the guy who did the shooting was a "grown idiot". Whomever raised this "grown up" did a poor job instilling common sense a few decades earlier when he was a "kid"
PV-PRIDE said:Shooting at JSU could have been avoided
By Eric Stringfellow
estringfellow@clarionledger.com
A key element of Allen Rouse's Saturday ritual is a visit to the barber, and this weekend was no exception.
Shortly after Rouse and son arrived at the Tiger Modernized Barber Shop inside the Jackson State University Campus Union, Rouse joined the animated dialogue about guns, fraternities and individual responsibility.
The fodder was provided the day before, when a student was shot near the bookstore around the corner from the barbershop. The gunfire sent students and others scrambling.
"This hurts," said Rouse, 40, a 1988 JSU graduate. "Someone needs to sit these young men down and remind them that they have to be cognizant of what they do and what they say. This is not what their founders had in mind."
Rouse was referring to some members of the JSU chapter of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc., and he is right.
Turf wars
University officials said Friday's shooting was rooted in an incident that took place near two benches painted in the Omegas' colors and widely accepted as the fraternity's space. Ryan Mack, 32, a graduate student who is not an Omega, apparently did or said something that offended several members near the benches, authorities said.
The Omegas followed Mack into the union, and a physical altercation resulted. At some point, Mack pulled out a 9mm handgun and allegedly shot Benjamin Hart in the upper abdomen, officials said. Hart, a senior from Inverness who is an Omega, is in fair condition at the University of Mississippi Medical Center.
Mack is charged with aggravated assault and possession of a firearm on state property. Two others, Anthony Hales, 20, and Kenneth Hair, 21, are charged with disorderly conduct. Hales and Hair are both Omegas. Hales plays football.
The turf wars among fraternities, athletic teams and regular students have become cliche.
Who's responsible?
It's hard to fault JSU for Friday's shooting, unless every visitor and student is searched daily. And, based on the brisk activity in the union and on campus Saturday, safety was not a concern.
Mack's alleged behavior is extremely questionable. Why would anyone bring a deadly weapon to campus and challenge members of an organization unless he was looking for trouble?
Some student Omegas have earned a reputation for being loud and obnoxious with appetites for confrontation. The founding principles do not include such behavior, and the fraternity's adult advisers have work to do. If Omegas are indeed campus leaders, they should have figured out a way to diffuse the tension instead of fueling it by following Mack into the union as alleged. Mack, although armed, appeared to be walking away.
One of Mack's parents is a JSU faculty member, but Mack is an adult. His parents are not responsible for his behavior. He alone is accountable.
"There is no way he didn't know the unwritten rules relating to fraternities, but I guarantee you he was provoked," Rouse said.
This sentiment, based on the Omegas' reputation, was prevalent in the barbershop, but not nearly as popular as the one suggesting the episode could have and should have been avoided.
southsuburbs said:I received this from the JSU DC Alumni Chapter newsletter....if anyone wants to disagree with the person that wrote it, I would be glad to pass your info along to him...
Just to "shed a little light" on the above article...
"In response to Eric's article below [above], it is so misleading it makes me sick to my stomach. Allen Rouse was never interviewed by Eric and Eric wrote an article without informing anyone in the barbershop he was doing so. He came in the barbershop and listen to folks talk about the incident that happened on Friday afternoon. Allen is good friends with one of our Fraternity members and he informed him that he did not say those words that Eric said he stated.
Now to Mr. Mack, the shooter. The word is, this guy does not have an undergrad degree. His mother works on JSU campus as a faculty member. Mr. Mack has been in and out of jail for years. It really disturbed me to read this article, as I have been informed of the whole story of what took place. Without going into details of the account, you tell me, what is a 32 year old grown man doing trying to go sit on a Fraternity bench, knowing he is not a member. What is any person, on a college campus pursuing a degree, an advance degree at that, coming to campus with a gun, 9 mm with 18 bullets in the chamber, looking to do? And finally, what needs to be clear to everyone. The brother who was shot was not one of the brothers outside when the initial confrontation took place, he was in the Union purchasing school books for class. Him and Mr. Mack exchanged words in the Union after Mr. Mack left from outside and came into the Union. This is when Mr. Mack shot Mr. Hart. At this point is where everyone need to look at Mr. Hales and Mr. Hair as more as heroes for tackling and jumping on Mr. Mack because he had more bullets in that gun that could have easily connected on incident bystanders."
jag4life said:That's the part that stands out to me... what does it MATTER?