LSU, Bama are kingpins of the farm system


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The 74th NFL draft begins Thursday night in New York. New York City? They should seriously consider moving the three-day, seven-round, bonanza to Hattiesburg or perhaps Meridian.

Neither of these quiet Mississippi outposts come close to Manhattan, but they are around the midpoint of Baton Rouge, La., and Tuscaloosa, where much of the young NFL talent has congregated and where much of the future NFL talent is and will be congregating for pre-graduate study.

For example, by the time all the members of the LSU and Alabama rosters from the 2011 season cycle out, there may be 70 in the NFL from the doubleheader LSU and Alabama split last season.

“I tell everybody, if you have a program from either or both of those games — keep it,” NFL draft expert Mike Detillier said.

In the 2012 NFL draft alone, no less than eight players from those championship games for the Southeastern Conference and BCS national titles, respectively, are expected to go in the first round Thursday night.

From LSU, cornerback Morris Claiborne will go in the first five picks, followed by defensive tackle Michael Brockers in the middle of the first round and wide receiver Rueben Randle late in the late first round.

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True.

The recruiting classes aren't slacking off for Bama. I can see them consistently putting four or five guys in the first round for the next few years. LSU is right there with them.
 
All this media hype helps these two schools on recruiting. Basically, every top high school player will want to go to lsu or bama, which will become to be known as top feeder schools for the NFL.
 
I blame Sam Cunningham.:lmao: 1 and 3 definitely wouldn't have been that good if it wasn't for him.

I would say Sam Cunningham for Alabama. For LSU, I would say desegregation matriculation. Some of the best athletes in Louisiana held out on a large scale going to LSU longer than in Alabama. I would also say that LSU didn't bill a fence around Louisiana AA blue chip athletes until Nick Saban arrived. A lot of other universities were beneficiaries in addition to Grambling and Southern. For Instance, ULM, LA. Tech and McNeese State all fielded I-AA national championship teams with a few of Louisiana blue chippers which nowadays would have not slipped through the cracks. Louisiana is a football rich state and LSU has cornered the market. I could elaborate even further but we're talking about a dissertation.
 
I would say Sam Cunningham for Alabama. For LSU, I would say desegregation matriculation. Some of the best athletes in Louisiana held out on a large scale going to LSU longer than in Alabama. I would also say that LSU didn't bill a fence around Louisiana AA blue chip athletes until Nick Saban arrived. A lot of other universities were beneficiaries in addition to Grambling and Southern. For Instance, ULM, LA. Tech and McNeese State all fielded I-AA national championship teams with a few of Louisiana blue chippers which nowadays would have not slipped through the cracks. Louisiana is a football rich state and LSU has cornered the market. I could elaborate even further but we're talking about a dissertation.

Basically, what I'm saying, if it wasn't for Sam Cunningham almost whipping Bama single handed, Bear Bryant would not have had an excuse to recruit black players. Once Bama got those Black athletes, other SEC teams fail behind. As a kid, I couldn't stand watching the Charlie Mac Show. Most of the time the topic of the show was, "Will LSU Beat Bama?'. Even though I'm Southernite, I used enjoy watching the Eddie Rob Show, especially when the show started off with the band playing, "Hey, We Are Grambling".
 
Basically, what I'm saying, if it wasn't for Sam Cunningham almost whipping Bama single handed, Bear Bryant would not have had an excuse to recruit black players. Once Bama got those Black athletes, other SEC teams fail behind. As a kid, I couldn't stand watching the Charlie Mac Show. Most of the time the topic of the show was, "Will LSU Beat Bama?'. Even though I'm Southernite, I used enjoy watching the Eddie Rob Show, especially when the show started off with the band playing, "Hey, We Are Grambling".

Yes, I loved watching the Eddie Robinson show on Sunday mornings. BTW, you probably already know but this was nationally televised. You are correct that the Sam the Bam Cunningham eventually had a domino effect. I am just saying it took LSU much longer to be able to maximize their recruiting of AA. I would say the success of Eddie Robinson played a huge role in that also. I don't think LSU or Alabama wanted any parts of that Grambling team I saw in 1974 in old Tulane stadium in BC I but I could be wrong. :lol: :emlaugh: Doug Williams calling signals behind a mammoth offensive line, potential NFL rookie of the year Sammy White wide out, world class sprinter Robert Woods, Carlos Penneywell, Jerry Gordon :smh: :lol: :emlaugh: In those days, I didn't know whether I would go to Grambling or Southern. I didn't decide until my senior year in high school after spending a weekend on the yard during football season.
 
J Rock would you say Terry Robiskie choosing LSU over SU helped LSU with the black players in the state at that time?
 
J Rock would you say Terry Robiskie choosing LSU over SU helped LSU with the black players in the state at that time?

Yes Terry as well as Carl Otis Tremble. A lot of black people were very proud to see Carl in the early 70's as LSU's first AA QB.
 
I hope ya'll don't think things are gonna stay this way. LSU and BAMA just played for the National championship. They are just getting they hype right now until next year's BCS championship.
 
I hope ya'll don't think things are gonna stay this way. LSU and BAMA just played for the National championship. They are just getting they hype right now until next year's BCS championship.

TP.......Those boys are loaded again (AL and LSU) Georgia and Arkansas will be dangerous too. I think outside of So. Cal., no one else will pose a problem. But tell me wise one, what is your prognosis and who do you see as prospective champions.....

I would say LSU had one really significant starter on offense loss Reuben Randle. The other 3 starters could be replaced. On defense Brocker and Claiborne were significant. The depth was so good and returning until they will be right back in the hunt.
 
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TP.......Those boys are loaded again (AL and LSU) Georgia and Arkansas will be dangerous too. I think outside of So. Cal., no one else will pose a problem. But tell me wise one, what is your prognosis and who do you see as prospective champions.....

Ole Miss................
 
Ole Miss................

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I'm curious, when is the last time one of the Mississippi SEC schools actually won the SEC? And I had Arkansas beating LSU this year until the whole Petrino thing came about.
 
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. . . when is the last time one of the Mississippi SEC schools actually won the SEC?

Here's a Listing of All SEC Championions from Wikipedia

1933 - Alabama
1934 - Alabama, Tulane
1935 - LSU
1936 - LSU
1937 - Alabama
1938 - Tennessee
1939 - Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Tulane
1940 - Tennessee (Sewanee leaves)
1941 - Mississippi State
1942 - Georgia
1943 - Georgia Tech
1944 - Georgia Tech
1945 - Alabama
1946 - Georgia, Tennessee
1947 - Mississippi
1948 - Georgia
1949 - Tulane
1950 - Kentucky
1951 - Tennessee, Georgia Tech
1952 - Georgia Tech
1953 - Alabama
1954 - Mississippi
1955 - Mississippi
1956 - Tennessee
1957 - Auburn
1958 - LSU
1959 - Georgia
1960 - Mississippi
1961 - Alabama, LSU
1962 - Mississippi
1963 - Mississippi
1964 - Alabama (Georgia Tech leaves)
1965 - Alabama
1966 - Alabama, Georgia (Tulane leaves)
1967 - Tennessee
1968 - Georgia
1969 - Tennessee
1970 - LSU
1971 - Alabama
1972 - Alabama
1973 - Alabama
1974 - Alabama
1975 - Alabama
1976 - Georgia, Kentucky*
1977 - Alabama
1978 - Alabama
1979 - Alabama
1980 - Georgia
1981 - Alabama, Georgia
1982 - Georgia
1983 - Auburn
1984 - Florida (vacated)
1985 - Tennessee
1986 - LSU
1987 - Auburn
1988 - Auburn, LSU
1989 - Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee
1990 - Tennessee
1991 - Florida
1992 - Alabama (Arkansas and South Carolina join; championship game starts.)
1993 - Florida
1994 - Florida
1995 - Florida
1996 - Florida
1997 - Tennessee
1998 - Tennessee
1999 - Alabama
2000 - Florida
2001 - LSU
2002 - Georgia
2003 - LSU
2004 - Auburn
2005 - Georgia
2006 - Florida
2007 - LSU
2008 - Florida
2009 - Alabama
2010 - Auburn
2011 - LSU
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I'm curious, when is the last time one of the Mississippi SEC schools actually won the SEC? And I had Arkansas beating LSU this year until the whole Petrino thing came about.

Ole Miss. 1963.

Ole Miss actually won it in 1960, 1962 and 1963.

Mississippi State won in 1941.

The closest either has gotten since then is Mississippi State went to the SEC championship game in 1998 where they lost to eventual national champion Tennessee by a score of 24 - 14.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I'm curious, when is the last time one of the Mississippi SEC schools actually won the SEC? And I had Arkansas beating LSU this year until the whole Petrino thing came about.

Aekansas should have rehired Houston Nutt.
 
I dont know about Ole Miss but there are plenty of black folk from down there that cheer for Miss State.

Yeah, I said MS State. Southern Miss has a large black fanbase too... Say Ole Miss and black folks will look at you crazy.
 
Yeah, I said MS State. Southern Miss has a large black fanbase too... Say Ole Miss and black folks will look at you crazy.

This is fact.

Sidenote: I'm putting out a Mississippi song and I'm thinking twice to feature Ole Miss's cap in the video :lol:
 
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