Kobe Will Save USA Basketball, Fa Sho!!


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Panthro said:
Man, you Jordan proponents trip me out! That ball hogging muthafugga thouth the word "PASS" was spelled "PAST" because that's exactly what it was when he had the ball in his hands while taking 70-90 shots a game. lol It was the "past" the time for him to pass the ball to the open man while he was showboating tryna' take 3-4 dudes to the hoop lol, it was "past" time for him to PASS the ball to open teammates who COULD actually score... it was "past" time for him to play some dayamed defense for once in his life. :emlaugh:

Kobe does none of that ever. If Kobe did the same thing that ball-hogging somma'ma'batch did while @ the same age, he'd OWN the nba lol.
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Dude you absolutely lost your mind. Don't ever compare the greatness of Jordan to that whiny punk Kobe Bryant. He aint no where near what Jordan was. Kobe aint even in the top 10 greatest of all times. Not yet. Hell Kobe aint even the best Laker of all time. He barely makes the top 5 Lakers greats. Kareem, Magic, West, and Wilt were all better. Even Elgin Baylor may make a case for being the 5th best Laker of all time. Now sit down somewhere with all this Kobe nutt riding. Geez. I am going have to tell you, GR, Jayrob and Kobe to go get a room if this foolishness continues.
 
JR said:
Dude you absolutely lost your mind. Don't ever compare the greatness of Jordan to that whiny punk Kobe Bryant. He aint no where near what Jordan was. Kobe aint even in the top 10 greatest of all times. Not yet. Hell Kobe aint even the best Laker of all time. He barely makes the top 5 Lakers greats. Kareem, Magic, West, and Wilt were all better. Even Elgin Baylor may make a case for being the 5th best Laker of all time. Now sit down somewhere with all this Kobe nutt riding. Geez. I am going have to tell you, GR, Jayrob and Kobe to go get a room if this foolishness continues.
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Ain't that the truth JR.
 



JR said:
Dude you absolutely lost your mind. Don't ever compare the greatness of Jordan to that whiny punk Kobe Bryant. He aint no where near what Jordan was. Kobe aint even in the top 10 greatest of all times. Not yet. Hell Kobe aint even the best Laker of all time. He barely makes the top 5 Lakers greats. Kareem, Magic, West, and Wilt were all better. Even Elgin Baylor may make a case for being the 5th best Laker of all time. Now sit down somewhere with all this Kobe nutt riding. Geez. I am going have to tell you, GR, Jayrob and Kobe to go get a room if this foolishness continues.
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What makes Jerry West better? I've heard there was none more selfish than him on the court.
 
jag4life said:
What makes Jerry West better? I've heard there was none more selfish than him on the court.
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Jerry West was probably one of the best clutch shooters of his era. Not to mention he had great ball handling skills. Not that Kobe can't handle to ball. But not like West could. Defensively I think they were what and what. I have yet to see Kobe shut his man down. Especially another star. I really think he is very overated on the defensive end.

The last thing is that West is the NBA logo. I can't argue with that. LOL. BTW, I am not holding Kobe's selfishness against him in ranking the players. West may have been selfish as well. Never heard that before. I am just ranking who I think were better Lakers.
 
XHALE9802 said:
yall done got JR mad! :lmao: i'm witcha though! :tup:
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Not mad Xhale. I just don't get how these folks really think Kobe is the G.O.A.T

He has not delivered like a Bird or Magic or MJ or even a Zeke in the Finals. He rode the back of Shaq to those titles. Those other guys were the lead on their talented teams. They won MVPs in the Finals. Kobe can score, he is exciting but dang it isn't like the NBA has not ever seen anybody like Kobe before. If the league was still allowing all the hard fouls like it was when Bird, Magic, MJ and others were playing, I wonder how he would have reacted. He is one of the greatest top players in history and probably a top 15 all time great to come through the NBA. But no way is he the best to ever play. Even MJ had to earn that one. These folks just want to annoit Kobe as the greatest.
 
JR said:
Not mad Xhale. I just don't get how these folks really think Kobe is the G.O.A.T

He has not delivered like a Bird or Magic or MJ or even a Zeke in the Finals. He rode the back of Shaq to those titles. Those other guys were the lead on their talented teams. They won MVPs in the Finals. Kobe can score, he is exciting but dang it isn't like the NBA has not ever seen anybody like Kobe before. If the league was still allowing all the hard fouls like it was when Bird, Magic, MJ and others were playing, I wonder how he would have reacted. He is one of the greatest top players in history and probably a top 15 all time great to come through the NBA. But no way is he the best to ever play. Even MJ had to earn that one. These folks just want to annoit Kobe as the greatest.
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i hear ya! me either, keep preaching, maybe it will soak in one day... :tup:
 
JR said:
Jerry West was probably one of the best clutch shooters of his era. Not to mention he had great ball handling skills. Not that Kobe can't handle to ball. But not like West could. Defensively I think they were what and what. I have yet to see Kobe shut his man down. Especially another star. I really think he is very overated on the defensive end.

The last thing is that West is the NBA logo. I can't argue with that. LOL. BTW, I am not holding Kobe's selfishness against him in ranking the players. West may have been selfish as well. Never heard that before. I am just ranking who I think were better Lakers.
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West was a better ball-handler? Huh?
 
jag4life said:
West was a better ball-handler? Huh?
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Yep. Go back and watch the old NBA films. West had some handles. I don't know if they kept turnover stats back then. But if they did, I would imagine West had less turnovers than Kobe. We know West was a better pure shooter than Kobe.

I am sure Kobe would beat West one on one due to his athletic ability. But I bet he would never want to get into a shooting contest with West in his prime. LOL
 
jag4life said:
West was a better ball-handler? Huh?
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Shows you JR's clear unadulterated biased opinion with no facts to support it.
Ain't no way in hades West was a better dribbler, overall shooter, passer, athlete or defensive player than Kobe.
That statement is sooo laughable and shady, it makes JR look like an elementary student in NBA knowledge.:shame:
When did West average 30 plus points a game.
Hell, West couldn't get past Bob Cousy and a less talented Celtic team more times than not.
 
JayRob said:
Shows you JR's clear unadulterated biased opinion with no facts to support it.
Ain't no way in hades West was a better dribbler, overall shooter, passer, athlete or defensive player than Kobe.
That statement is sooo laughable and shady, it makes JR look like an elementary student in NBA knowledge.:shame:
When did West average 30 plus points a game.
Hell, West couldn't get past Bob Cousy and a less talented Celtic team more times than not.
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Uh Dude you obviously did watch film of West play. Cousy was no longer revelant when West was in his prime. Cousy retired in the early 60s and West was in his second or 3rd year in Cousy's last season. Bill Russell was the reason the Lakers could not win against the Celtics. Also your comment shows how much you don't know the history of the NBA. The Celtics had just as much talent as the Lakers then. Russell, Sam and KC Jones, Don Nelson, Havilicek was young, etc. To show you how cold Jerry West was. He was the Finals MVP in 69 and the Lakers lost. When have you ever seen that happen before in a NBA Finals.

BTW, the really show you that you have no clue. West averaged 29 points a game in all his playoffs games combined. Not to mention he average 40 points a game in the playoffs in the mid 60s. Dude you can't be a Lakers fan. Did you know Jerry West still has the Laker record for steals in a game? Or that he was first team all defense for 4 seasons even though they didn't start giving the award out until West's 9th year in the NBA? Are you aware that West made the NBA All-Star team every year he played in the NBA? All 14 years.

You my friend is the the one who is shady. Now go look up your Laker history since you claim to be such a fan of them. Jerry West was the truth.
 
JayRob said:
Shows you JR's clear unadulterated biased opinion with no facts to support it.
Ain't no way in hades West was a better dribbler, overall shooter, passer, athlete or defensive player than Kobe.
That statement is sooo laughable and shady, it makes JR look like an elementary student in NBA knowledge.:shame:
When did West average 30 plus points a game.
Hell, West couldn't get past Bob Cousy and a less talented Celtic team more times than not.
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Dude, you are the absolute last person that should be calling anyone out about an unadulterated biased opinion, LOL!! Where are your facts to dispute JR's statement about West being a better ball handler than Kobe?
 
JR said:
Uh Dude you obviously did watch film of West play. Cousy was no longer revelant when West was in his prime. Cousy retired in the early 60s and West was in his second or 3rd year in Cousy's last season. Bill Russell was the reason the Lakers could not win against the Celtics. Also your comment shows how much you don't know the history of the NBA. The Celtics had just as much talent as the Lakers then. Russell, Sam and KC Jones, Don Nelson, Havilicek was young, etc. To show you how cold Jerry West was. He was the Finals MVP in 69 and the Lakers lost. When have you ever seen that happen before in a NBA Finals.

BTW, the really show you that you have no clue. West averaged 29 points a game in all his playoffs games combined. Not to mention he average 40 points a game in the playoffs in the mid 60s. Dude you can't be a Lakers fan. Did you know Jerry West still has the Laker record for steals in a game? Or that he was first team all defense for 4 seasons even though they didn't start giving the award out until West's 9th year in the NBA? Are you aware that West made the NBA All-Star team every year he played in the NBA? All 14 years.

You my friend is the the one who is shady. Now go look up your Laker history since you claim to be such a fan of them. Jerry West was the truth.
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JayRob, give up dude. You have been pwned.
 
JR said:
Uh Dude you obviously did watch film of West play. Cousy was no longer revelant when West was in his prime. Cousy retired in the early 60s and West was in his second or 3rd year in Cousy's last season. Bill Russell was the reason the Lakers could not win against the Celtics. Also your comment shows how much you don't know the history of the NBA. The Celtics had just as much talent as the Lakers then. Russell, Sam and KC Jones, Don Nelson, Havilicek was young, etc. To show you how cold Jerry West was. He was the Finals MVP in 69 and the Lakers lost. When have you ever seen that happen before in a NBA Finals.

BTW, the really show you that you have no clue. West averaged 29 points a game in all his playoffs games combined. Not to mention he average 40 points a game in the playoffs in the mid 60s. Dude you can't be a Lakers fan. Did you know Jerry West still has the Laker record for steals in a game? Or that he was first team all defense for 4 seasons even though they didn't start giving the award out until West's 9th year in the NBA? Are you aware that West made the NBA All-Star team every year he played in the NBA? All 14 years.

You my friend is the the one who is shady. Now go look up your Laker history since you claim to be such a fan of them. Jerry West was the truth.
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Dude, how can you trust some bullsh*t stats from the ancient 60s when Negroes were still sitting in the back of the bus? :confused:

Just cuz West won a finals MVP in which his team lost only solidifies how "white power" was @ work during that time. :rolleyes: Plz. Comparing then West to now Kobe is like comparing these now dominating NFLers w/ those NFLers of yesteryear who wore those leather helmets and no face mask that had 180lb linemen. :emlaugh: C'mon now. Was the dunk even legal back then? :swink: :lol:

All of this Kobe hate cannot be healthy for anyone. :smh:
 
Panthro said:
Dude, how can you trust some bullsh*t stats from the ancient 60s when Negroes were still sitting in the back of the bus? :confused:

Just cuz West won a finals MVP in which his team lost only solidifies how "white power" was @ work during that time. :rolleyes: Plz. Comparing then West to now Kobe is like comparing these now dominating NFLers w/ those NFLers of yesteryear who wore those leather helmets and no face mask that had 180lb linemen. :emlaugh: C'mon now. Was the dunk even legal back then? :swink: :lol:

All of this Kobe hate cannot be healthy for anyone. :smh:
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All this Kobe nutt riding is definitely not healthy. I aint never seen grown arse men grovel over another man like this before. Yall are sickening.:vomit:
 



Panthro said:
Dude, how can you trust some bullsh*t stats from the ancient 60s when Negroes were still sitting in the back of the bus? :confused:

Just cuz West won a finals MVP in which his team lost only solidifies how "white power" was @ work during that time. :rolleyes: Plz. Comparing then West to now Kobe is like comparing these now dominating NFLers w/ those NFLers of yesteryear who wore those leather helmets and no face mask that had 180lb linemen. :emlaugh: C'mon now. Was the dunk even legal back then? :swink: :lol:

All of this Kobe hate cannot be healthy for anyone. :smh:
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Another thing. The NBA had plenty of Negros then. So your civil rights moment is moot. Multiple brothers were stars when West played. Carry on.
 
JR said:
Uh Dude you obviously did watch film of West play. Cousy was no longer revelant when West was in his prime. Cousy retired in the early 60s and West was in his second or 3rd year in Cousy's last season. Bill Russell was the reason the Lakers could not win against the Celtics. Also your comment shows how much you don't know the history of the NBA. The Celtics had just as much talent as the Lakers then. Russell, Sam and KC Jones, Don Nelson, Havilicek was young, etc. To show you how cold Jerry West was. He was the Finals MVP in 69 and the Lakers lost. When have you ever seen that happen before in a NBA Finals.

BTW, the really show you that you have no clue. West averaged 29 points a game in all his playoffs games combined. Not to mention he average 40 points a game in the playoffs in the mid 60s. Dude you can't be a Lakers fan. Did you know Jerry West still has the Laker record for steals in a game? Or that he was first team all defense for 4 seasons even though they didn't start giving the award out until West's 9th year in the NBA? Are you aware that West made the NBA All-Star team every year he played in the NBA? All 14 years.

You my friend is the the one who is shady. Now go look up your Laker history since you claim to be such a fan of them. Jerry West was the truth.
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Let's see, how many NBA teams were in the league in the late '60's? Only 14!

Panthro beat me to the punch, but I'll mention it any way.
How many African Americans were allowed to play back then? Hell, the ABA hadn't even merged with the NBA, yet you're comparing West's stats to Kobe's back in the good ole boy days of the NBA where the league was 70-80 percent white?

I hate to see grown men crumble and grovel under their own weight of hatred toward one man as much as you and lapdog alias topdog.

Kobe's the best player in the game today, hands down.
Players today are stronger, quicker, faster and better defensively than 99 percent of the players were in the '60's.
West's athleticism, leaping ability, passing ability, defense and offensive skills are no comparison to Kobe's. Even West will tell you that himself IF he's honest with himself.

West had Baylor, Chamberlain on his team, yet he couldn't get past the Celtics but once.
West played in NINE NBA championship games and how many of those did he win?.....ONE!! 1-8 in NBA finals, and this with Chamberlain, Baylor, etc. Talk about the Buffalo Bills of the NBA.:smh:

Why I'm even debating this issue shows my stupidity in responding to such lunacy.

West is the man when it comes to wheelin and dealin in the Laker's front office, but sayin his NBA game was better than Kobe's is the height of NBA trivia ignorance.:lecture:
 
JayRob said:
Let's see, how many NBA teams were in the league in the late '60's? Only 14!

Panthro beat me to the punch, but I'll mention it any way.
How many African Americans were allowed to play back then? Hell, the ABA hadn't even merged with the NBA, yet you're comparing West's stats to Kobe's back in the good ole boy days of the NBA where the league was 70-80 percent white?

I hate to see grown men crumble and grovel under their own weight of hatred toward one man as much as you and lapdog alias topdog.

Kobe's the best player in the game today, hands down.
Players today are stronger, quicker, faster and better defensively than 99 percent of the players were in the '60's.
West's athleticism, leaping ability, passing ability, defense and offensive skills are no comparison to Kobe's. Even West will tell you that himself IF he's honest with himself.

West had Baylor, Oscar Robertson, Chamberlain on his team, yet he couldn't get past the Celtics but once.
West played in NINE NBA championship games and how many of those did he win?.....ONE!! 1-8 in NBA finals, and this with Chamberlain, Robertson, Baylor, etc. Talk about the Buffalo Bills of the NBA.:smh:

Why I'm even debating this issue shows my stupidity in responding to such lunacy.

West is the man when it comes to wheelin and dealin in the Laker's front office, but sayin his NBA game was better than Kobe's is the height of NBA trivia ignorance.:lecture:
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Oscar Robertson? When did the big O play for the Lakers? You are showing more and more that you have no clue and definitely are not a Laker fan. Yep you are showing your stupidity. Carry on.:emlaugh:
 
kendrick said:
There are about 5 guys in NBA history who are better than Kobe.

Magic Johnson
Larry Bird
Michael Jordan
Wilt Chamberlin
Bill Russell

How can Kobe be the greatest player of all-time right now when he has never won an NBA Finals MVP or NBA MVP?

In order to be considered one of the greatest players ever, you have to dominate over a number of years. Not just 2 or 3 because your teammates suck and you have to do everything.

Don't get me wrong, Kobe is a fantastic player, and he might be the greatest player ever when he retires. But he is not there yet.

If Kobe retired today would his peers consider him the greatest player ever? That's who can truly judge him.
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Some would add these names. One can add more than the ones below.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Julius Erving
Oscar Robertson
Jerry West
Willis Reed
 
this negro said the Big "O" played for the Lakers... :goof: :goof:

Sometimes I really believe you have some sort of disconnect whenever you start talking about basketball, Jay... *lol*


That purple kool-aid they be handin' out to y'all cult followers must be some strong stuff.


Jay, lemme pose this single question to you, and your other lemming/EBOK cult followers:

Does EBOK inspire, or help to make those around him on the floor better?

a simple yes or no will do....
 
JR said:
Oscar Robertson? When did the big O play for the Lakers? You are showing more and more that you have no clue and definitely are not a Laker fan. Yep you are showing your stupidity. Carry on.:emlaugh:
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Thanks for the correction.

.....and Jerry West's 1-8 championship record? You carry on.:rolleyes:
 
crazylegs said:
this negro said the Big "O" played for the Lakers... :goof: :goof:

Sometimes I really believe you have some sort of disconnect whenever you start talking about basketball, Jay... *lol*


That purple kool-aid they be handin' out to y'all cult followers must be some strong stuff.


Jay, lemme pose this single question to you, and your other lemming/EBOK cult followers:

Does EBOK inspire, or help to make those around him on the floor better?

a simple yes or no will do....
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YES!!!
When Kobe has talent around him, he produces. When Kobe doesn't have talent around him, he STILL produces.
 
dude, at least Jerry won 1 on his own...

Honestly, when do you see EBOK even coming close to getting out of the first round, much less contending for a championship????

This mofo can't even talk to his teammates face-to-face on a consistent basis...*lmao*




To me, ole dude is no better than an ultra-athletic Alex English or a World B. Free...

They had impressive individual skillsets, too... *lol*
 
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