JSU spring practice to end with no fanfare
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CurtDog 1971
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BgJag said:
Ok. No need for the sarcasm. You know Robber. Great!!!
northern tiger
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Fortitude said:
You saw that too huh. That's like guiding a ship into a wreck. :smh:
This has to be considered a low point.
Normal1875
A&M #1
i just talked to a JSU player's dad a few minutes ago lol...he said all the players wanna quit!
JSU/99 said:
Kool-aid:
I don't concur with that. I think that if Bell had taken the criticism and opposition seriously, he could have done and said things to moderate those ill feelings. Instead of making statements that appeared arrogant to people who don't know him personally, he could have told the JSU people that he understood why they did not approve of his hiring, but then told them to give him a chance before they made up their minds about him. He could have told them the he understood the JSU traditions, that he had always been a fan of JSU football and some of its widely known coaches and players. I believe that the fans would have reacted differently to him and his losses if he had employed diplomatic responses to the criticism, and appeared to be humble. Making statements, like the one he made about 99% of the JSU fans, are not calculated to win friends and influence people.
Mr. SWAC
F*** THE LAKERS!!!!!!
Ours last just a long as a Spring game. You act like there is only one format used for a Spring game. And if you really cared for TP, you would tell him to go sit his arse down somewhere. REAL Friends know when to say when. You got that dude looking a fool and don't care. :shame:Robber said:
Mr. SWAC said:
TP is going to get all of the Mafia caught up in his web of misstatements and embellishments, all done to defend an indefensible losing record for the past two years. When I told you guys that it was better to have a 7-4 record than a losing record, I had no idea it would get this bad.
If you all had listened to Curtdog back then, JSU would not be in this quagmire.
JSU/99
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All of what you say would've helped him initially. But none of that mattered once he started losing. He would've made himself look better with more diplomacy, but that wouldn't have gotten the fans off his back. Heck we sometimes treat our winning coaches(WC, Big Daddy) like isht. What you don't understand is that a lot of this boils down to the school as a whole. A lot of alums don't trust the President(despite the fact that he's doing a good job) and feel that he's out to destroy the school in some way. Bell is an easy target for the ones who dislike the overall direction of the school. Granted he hasn't helped himself with his public comments, but do you really believe people will be more inclined to support him with his record if he made better comments in the press? Some of the biggests a-holes in sports are winning coaches. Some of the nicest guys in sports are losing coaches. But none of that matters because in the end, the fans are going to support the winners. For most of our fans it boils down to this: he's 6-17, he needs to go. Until those numbers change, nothing is going to help improve his image with the alums.Oracle said:
JSU/99 said:
One of the methods you use to diffuse initial doubts about your purpose and intent is to get those opposed to you to believe that you are not as bad as they initially believed. That entails leading them to believe thay you empathize with their viewpoints, and that their viewpoint has some validity. Then you explain to them why that viewpoint may not correctly apply to you.
At some time in the future you will find that there are tactics/ways to ameliorate hostility and non-cooperation. When people trust and like you they are much more likely to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Of course, that does not mean that they won't return to distrusting you. If they see that you were not truthful when you asked and received their trust, the dislike will return. In Bell's case, sure the dislike would have come back if he had not won.
Mike Anderson of UAB was a very unpopular choice when he was hired. Everyone wanted the coach that is now at South Alabama. The former ad and former president at UAB received a lot of criticism, and this, among other things, essentially cost them their jobs. But nobody complains about Anderson now.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
JSU/99 said:
These people don't get it......we ain't liked our HC since I been following JSU football. Gordon won 8 SWAC championships in the 80's but the fans were more concerned with his playoff and other regular season losses than the wins. Also, Oracle, you don't know Bell. Bell came in and tried. He is very friendly almost to goofiness. He is not the person that some people try to make him out to be. Most of the things you suggest, he did but people overlooked his 20 years of 1-A coaching and only saw a 1-9 HS coach.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
CurtDog 1971 said:
Yeah, have a spring game in Jackson for all of the fans who say that they are not coming to a JSU game as long as Bell is the coach anyway...sheesh.
JSU/99
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In Anderson's case, I guess beating Kentucky in the tournament last year helped out some. I'm sure his winning is the reason why no one's complaining. Not public relations.
As for the public relations essay, you could've saved the space. Because it doesn't apply here. Bell wasn't walking into some company as a CEO with just a few people to win over. He was walking into a situation where he had to please thousands of angry and distrustful alumni(myself included). There were no magicwords that were going to help him win over our alums. They wanted wins, period. That's all. It doesn't matter what he said. When you lose 17 games after being brought in the way he was, you're gonna catch He!!. And winning is the only thing that will make it better.
As for the public relations essay, you could've saved the space. Because it doesn't apply here. Bell wasn't walking into some company as a CEO with just a few people to win over. He was walking into a situation where he had to please thousands of angry and distrustful alumni(myself included). There were no magicwords that were going to help him win over our alums. They wanted wins, period. That's all. It doesn't matter what he said. When you lose 17 games after being brought in the way he was, you're gonna catch He!!. And winning is the only thing that will make it better.
northern tiger
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Oracle said:
Don't you know that makes too much since for Bell to do. :retard:
http://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050416/SPORTS030101/504160366/1025
April 16, 2005
Johnson uses speed to make move at JSU
By Mark Alexander
[email protected]
With the departure of standout senior Chris Jones, rising sophomore Jaymar Johnson has emerged as a potential go-to wide receiver for Jackson State. Johnson caught six passes for 95 yards as the Tigers completed spring practice with an hour-long scrimmage on campus.
Jackson State's receivers accounted for 84 of the team's 118 catches last season.
Over half of those belonged to now departed Chris Jones. And outside of returnee Byron Johnson, none of the other six receivers participating in spring practice totaled more than 10 catches.
Suffice it to say, there's plenty of opportunity for playing time at that position.
Jaymar Johnson showed Friday he may just be that guy. The speedy redshirt sophomore hauled in six catches for 95 yards in Friday's hour-long scrimmage, including a 23-yarder that set up three of the 17 points produced by the offense.
"We all know somebody's got to step up and produce at that spot," Johnson said. "We don't have a lot of receivers, so we've all got to be in shape and ready to go."
The 6-foot-1, 180-pound Johnson certainly got the job done at William A. Wirt High in Gary, Ind., where as a senior he hauled in 50 catches for 900 yards, including 20 touchdowns. It has just taken him some time to find his way into the mix at JSU.
He sat out as a freshman after failing to meet NCAA eligibility requirements, and played mostly on special teams a year ago. It's safe to say he'll play a larger role next season, especially if he continues to perform like he did in Friday's scrimmage, which served as the Tigers' spring game.
"This is something we anticipated," JSU coach James Bell said. "It's not a surprise to us. He had a couple of nice catches today. That's evidence of the hard work and determination he's displayed since he got here."
Johnson caught two short passes early on, then hauled in a 24-yarder from Terrance Matthews. Later in the first half, he turned a short catch into a 23-yard gain. Then, midway through the second half, he reached with both hands high above his head to grab a high pass from Kethonne McLaurin across the middle, a play covering 35 yards.
"I think Jaymar is going to surprise a lot of people next season," JSU receiver/defensive back Cletis Gordon said. "The thing about him is he goes hard every day; he's a competitor. Of the receivers we have, he's the toughest one for me to cover because he's so fast."
How fast? Try 4.38 seconds in the 40-yard dash fast. At least that's the time he turned in recently on JSU's track. He consistently runs in the 4.4 range. "He's the fastest guy on the team," Bell said. "Cletis will tell you he's the fastest, but Johnson had the fastest time when we timed them that day."
Byron Johnson, Jeremy Handy, Jor'dan Beard and tight end Kenneth Davis combined for seven catches for 63 yards.
"We don't have a lot of size, but we have a lot of quickness," Jaymar Johnson said.
After fumbling on its opening possession, the offense, which has undergone a slight facelift under first-year offensive coordinator Ed Rigby including more options, rollouts and shotgun formations, scored touchdowns on two of its next three possessions.
Haren capped a 5-play, 70-yard drive with a 12-yard touchdown run set up by his 44-yard scamper three plays earlier. And Olandus Rogers, who along with Curtis Hayes got the majority of the carries with David Kennebrew sidelined with an injured shoulder, scored on an 8-yard run.
Jaime Salazar booted a 27-yard field goal just before halftime to account for the other three points.
The revamped defense, which lost seven starters from last year, pitched a shutout in the second half. Gordon, who is expected to play both ways this fall, snuffed out one potential scoring drive with an interception. Linebackers Maurice Hardnett, Brandon Walls and E.J. Hampton each recorded sacks. Linebacker Jason Lewis also darted through the line of scrimmage and forced a fumble on one play. And cornerback De'Jervis Jiles turned in several big hits, one of which forced a fumble.
"I'd still say the offense is ahead of the defense right now," Gordon said. "But the defense has gotten a lot better since Day 1."
An estimated 200 fans watched the scrimmage on the school's practice field, including JSU president Ronald Mason Jr., who was taking a peek at a program that has suffered through back-to-back losing seasons in Bell's first two years. JSU athletic director Roy Culberson gave a fiery pep talk to the team afterwards.
"Overall, I'm very pleased with the spring," said Bell, who had only 51 position players to work with Friday. "We still have some guys who are not here right now. Some of them are on campus, some are not. We're going to plug them in at the positions where we feel they are most needed, and see how it goes."
April 16, 2005
Johnson uses speed to make move at JSU
By Mark Alexander
[email protected]
With the departure of standout senior Chris Jones, rising sophomore Jaymar Johnson has emerged as a potential go-to wide receiver for Jackson State. Johnson caught six passes for 95 yards as the Tigers completed spring practice with an hour-long scrimmage on campus.
Jackson State's receivers accounted for 84 of the team's 118 catches last season.
Over half of those belonged to now departed Chris Jones. And outside of returnee Byron Johnson, none of the other six receivers participating in spring practice totaled more than 10 catches.
Suffice it to say, there's plenty of opportunity for playing time at that position.
Jaymar Johnson showed Friday he may just be that guy. The speedy redshirt sophomore hauled in six catches for 95 yards in Friday's hour-long scrimmage, including a 23-yarder that set up three of the 17 points produced by the offense.
"We all know somebody's got to step up and produce at that spot," Johnson said. "We don't have a lot of receivers, so we've all got to be in shape and ready to go."
The 6-foot-1, 180-pound Johnson certainly got the job done at William A. Wirt High in Gary, Ind., where as a senior he hauled in 50 catches for 900 yards, including 20 touchdowns. It has just taken him some time to find his way into the mix at JSU.
He sat out as a freshman after failing to meet NCAA eligibility requirements, and played mostly on special teams a year ago. It's safe to say he'll play a larger role next season, especially if he continues to perform like he did in Friday's scrimmage, which served as the Tigers' spring game.
"This is something we anticipated," JSU coach James Bell said. "It's not a surprise to us. He had a couple of nice catches today. That's evidence of the hard work and determination he's displayed since he got here."
Johnson caught two short passes early on, then hauled in a 24-yarder from Terrance Matthews. Later in the first half, he turned a short catch into a 23-yard gain. Then, midway through the second half, he reached with both hands high above his head to grab a high pass from Kethonne McLaurin across the middle, a play covering 35 yards.
"I think Jaymar is going to surprise a lot of people next season," JSU receiver/defensive back Cletis Gordon said. "The thing about him is he goes hard every day; he's a competitor. Of the receivers we have, he's the toughest one for me to cover because he's so fast."
How fast? Try 4.38 seconds in the 40-yard dash fast. At least that's the time he turned in recently on JSU's track. He consistently runs in the 4.4 range. "He's the fastest guy on the team," Bell said. "Cletis will tell you he's the fastest, but Johnson had the fastest time when we timed them that day."
Byron Johnson, Jeremy Handy, Jor'dan Beard and tight end Kenneth Davis combined for seven catches for 63 yards.
"We don't have a lot of size, but we have a lot of quickness," Jaymar Johnson said.
After fumbling on its opening possession, the offense, which has undergone a slight facelift under first-year offensive coordinator Ed Rigby including more options, rollouts and shotgun formations, scored touchdowns on two of its next three possessions.
Haren capped a 5-play, 70-yard drive with a 12-yard touchdown run set up by his 44-yard scamper three plays earlier. And Olandus Rogers, who along with Curtis Hayes got the majority of the carries with David Kennebrew sidelined with an injured shoulder, scored on an 8-yard run.
Jaime Salazar booted a 27-yard field goal just before halftime to account for the other three points.
The revamped defense, which lost seven starters from last year, pitched a shutout in the second half. Gordon, who is expected to play both ways this fall, snuffed out one potential scoring drive with an interception. Linebackers Maurice Hardnett, Brandon Walls and E.J. Hampton each recorded sacks. Linebacker Jason Lewis also darted through the line of scrimmage and forced a fumble on one play. And cornerback De'Jervis Jiles turned in several big hits, one of which forced a fumble.
"I'd still say the offense is ahead of the defense right now," Gordon said. "But the defense has gotten a lot better since Day 1."
An estimated 200 fans watched the scrimmage on the school's practice field, including JSU president Ronald Mason Jr., who was taking a peek at a program that has suffered through back-to-back losing seasons in Bell's first two years. JSU athletic director Roy Culberson gave a fiery pep talk to the team afterwards.
"Overall, I'm very pleased with the spring," said Bell, who had only 51 position players to work with Friday. "We still have some guys who are not here right now. Some of them are on campus, some are not. We're going to plug them in at the positions where we feel they are most needed, and see how it goes."
CurtDog 1971
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Tigerpride said:
If admission had been charged I would not have gone. I refused to spend any money to see any game while Bell is coach.