"NOISE TALKA"
Mr. Hatedandloved
See this is the kinda stuff i'm talking about TP lol. Where is the money coming from?
In the SWAC, “Our limits have been reached,†says Braddy
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See this is the kinda stuff i'm talking about TP lol. Where is the money coming from?
Kennesaw State started out as a junior college in 1963.
This is true, but look at their rate or percentage of fans supporting their program. They had a plan, publicized it, organize their fanbase, and got to work-quickly. While Georgia State and Old Dominion may have more money than a SWAC school, it is not like every grad from our school is broke. Their schools are getting results.
This is true, but look at their rate or percentage of fans supporting their program. They had a plan, publicized it, organize their fanbase, and got to work-quickly. While Georgia State and Old Dominion may have more money than a SWAC school, it is not like every grad from our school is broke. Their schools are getting results.
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Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I don't know but I that was more a of a joke. However, we saw how SU and Pete got these HBCUs paying over $200K. 10 years ago, it was good for a HBCU coach to make $100K. Now, the top HBCUs pay around $200K. I would hope that wise decisions prevailed.
...and to be honest, I also believe that IF we moved to 1-A, the wall would come down. There is no way, McNeese, NWState, ect...will settle for Grambling taking all of their recruits. I think they would make it just like bball to take away our advantage by making everyone D1 but at least we would have TRIED. I just see stayin put as "not trying"
I will agree on the increased support. The examples have been there for decades.
BRAVEHEART123
The Clown Prince of Crime
Guys, read this in big bold print:
"Winning Leads To Opportunities"
Plain and simple, the product the SWAC has put on the sports field lately has been horrible!!! However, I see some hope in Basketball with a few D-IA upsets as well as baseball and softball. However, the fact remains that football is the number one revenue drawing sport. All the problems associated with football revenue involve the product on the field. How does it help our conference when teams like Tuskegee, NW St, Arkansas-Monticello, etc. come in and beat our teams.
Improve the product on the field (WITHOUT THE EXCUSES OF FACILITIES) and watch and see things become better again.
Also, football SCHEDULING must improve drastically.
"Winning Leads To Opportunities"
Plain and simple, the product the SWAC has put on the sports field lately has been horrible!!! However, I see some hope in Basketball with a few D-IA upsets as well as baseball and softball. However, the fact remains that football is the number one revenue drawing sport. All the problems associated with football revenue involve the product on the field. How does it help our conference when teams like Tuskegee, NW St, Arkansas-Monticello, etc. come in and beat our teams.
Improve the product on the field (WITHOUT THE EXCUSES OF FACILITIES) and watch and see things become better again.
Also, football SCHEDULING must improve drastically.
unknown
New Member
One difference i can tell you off the top is when we (GSU) made the Football announcement official, alumni started pouring money out of the woodworks. If you look at how the campus has expanded East towards Grady and North so quick its pretty amazing. From what im hearing they're looking to buy a large plot of land to the NW of campus... they dont plan on playing in the dome long..
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
Will you guys learn how to comprehend. It is essential. I said name folks you know, not folks who you think you saw on a list. :lol: Name your friends perosnally or co-workers who did?
jstate83
GOAT FARM!
Whats the point of paying $1.5 million to move up and play the same exact HBCU's that we play now? Then we will pay the FBS price just to play the same teams under the FBS flag. We keep holding ourselves back by waiting on others.
We may as well, as a group, put all them $1.5 millions and extra athletic funding into a game like the LB and split the pot on the FCS level if thats the case.
Nonchalant
Hail, Hail To Thee...
Good points.
We are already part of the FCS so it will not cost anything to create a conference.
Then we invite only those schools who have aspirations on moving to FBS.
You mean to tell me JSU, Tenn St., FAMU and 4 others schools (black or white) cannot create our own conference within the FCS. We only need 7 teams to qualify for the FCS playoffs.
Then after a period of time, the whole conference move up to FBS.
Then we invite only those schools who have aspirations on moving to FBS.
You mean to tell me JSU, Tenn St., FAMU and 4 others schools (black or white) cannot create our own conference within the FCS. We only need 7 teams to qualify for the FCS playoffs.
Then after a period of time, the whole conference move up to FBS.
MightyDog
Well-Known Member
agree. If JSU move they would still want to play GSU, SU, Alcorn and AAMU. And still get whipped by the rest of the Sunbelt.
coldsweat
Drink & Be Merry!
Nonchalant
Hail, Hail To Thee...
Jackson State would not play AAMU. WHEN we move, we will probably have Alcorn, Southern, Grambling, Tennessee State and/or FAMU in rotation.
That would be the sensible thing... if the other larger HBCUs could join the SWAC and move up first and pave the way for other schools to do the same. The SIAC played football in two divisions in the 70s, but it didn't last because the larger schools left for the MEAC (SCST, FAMU, BCC, SAVST) and SWAC (ALST, A&M). If we worked together we could help support the larger schools helping to offset costs by stabilizing other sports, for the potential revenue sharing when they get on their feet in I-A, and then other schools that wanted to move up could do so with an smooth transition. However, that would take a lot of trust on the smaller schools that the first one's to move up won't leave them behind and also the larger schools to make sure they aren't supporting a group of welfare schools that don't want to spend the money to move up, but are happy collecting a revenue sharing check, which would affect marketability and also bring the overall image of the league down
JSUDMJ2004
JSU enuff said!
I can name folks personally that I attend school with and who graduated in 07 with me who are active in their cities alumni chapter and who give back..hell me and my wife are both financially active in our local chapter.......you are stupid if u think someone will put names up for a message board topic, NT gave you the facts and numbers deal with it. There it is we give back but it could be better.....Don't try put JSU in the same category as ur poorly ran school........
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
Blacknbengal
Well-Known Member
For Gorden, it’s about giving back; For Casem, it’s about hiring right
By now, most of you have probably already read our SWAC story in Tuesday’s C-L. It advances tonight’s Future of the SWAC event, an open forum that will include a few SWAC icons set for 6:30 p.m. at the Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame and Museum.
W.C. Gorden and Marino Casem, the winningest football coaches at Jackson State and Alcorn State, respectively, will be at the forum. We didn’t have room in our Tuesday story to expound on Gorden and Casem’s ideas in reviving the SWAC. But we have all the room in the word on the Internet (isn’t the Internet great?) …
For Gorden, it’s primarily about alumni giving back to the university. Also, it’s about marketing better and getting on TV. Check out what he told us …
Rest story
Dayum!!! Dont this sound so familar?!?!?!
By now, most of you have probably already read our SWAC story in Tuesday’s C-L. It advances tonight’s Future of the SWAC event, an open forum that will include a few SWAC icons set for 6:30 p.m. at the Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame and Museum.
W.C. Gorden and Marino Casem, the winningest football coaches at Jackson State and Alcorn State, respectively, will be at the forum. We didn’t have room in our Tuesday story to expound on Gorden and Casem’s ideas in reviving the SWAC. But we have all the room in the word on the Internet (isn’t the Internet great?) …
For Gorden, it’s primarily about alumni giving back to the university. Also, it’s about marketing better and getting on TV. Check out what he told us …
Rest story
Dayum!!! Dont this sound so familar?!?!?!
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BD,
Thank you. We only need eight schools (black or white) who are financially able to do it. Man, the new conference could get explore new sponsors such as Nike, TV contract with Fox Sports to show our games live, etc. We just need to hire a good visionary and leader who can get it done. This can work!
It doesn't cost anything to start a conference within the FCS since the schools are already part of the FCS.
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
I said over one hundred. man they really don't teach you youngin how to comprehend. Yall are to emotional. Facts son. Facts.
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
Since most FCS schools are that great with travel.. you have to find 8 "legit" schools that are willing to travel to all 8 schools....
Since we are in the FCS then it would be possible for the SWAC to be included in the FCS playoffs and make it mandatory provided that we when the appropriate games. (No pun intended) but I think that Braddy has overlooked the conference a little because as long as we continue to have players move in the "league" (NFL) than I think that the conference is still a legitimate conference as a matter of fact we are still beating out all of the other FCS conferences in that department. To tell you the truth I wouldn't know what to think if the conference was disbanded.
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Nonchalant
Hail, Hail To Thee...
Good point. Outside of the SWAC and maybe FAMU/SCSU/NCA&T, the rest of FCS sucks when it comes to traveling. Jackson State, FAMU, Tennessee State, Southern, SCSU, Georgia State, Jacksonville State, and maybe Georga Southern would make an ideal "8".
FAMU CLIFF
New Member
Troy went from having FAMU kick their butt in Troy and having more FAMU fans at their stadium to beating a Big 12 team (Mizzou) on Thurday night football.