If you're waiting for the SWAC to leave Birmingham . . .
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Mr. Tiger
Mr. T
I doubt if anyone here knows just how profitable the SWAC Championship is and what it means financially for member schools. And trying to find that out is next to impossible because the SWAC office won't even respond to basic
e-mails. I know because I have tried concerning the 9-game mandate.
e-mails. I know because I have tried concerning the 9-game mandate.
Da_Sperm
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staggalee83,
Look, it is not worth the argument. Lets say the game brings in 25,000 people at $20 per ticket. That is a total revenue of $500,000. Add another $100,000 for parking and consessions. If the SWAC didn't have to pay a DIME in expenses and each member school footed the bill to get the team, band, cheerleaders, media, etc. there (Which we know ain't the case), then 10 schools would split that $600,000. That is $60,000 per school.
That is simply NOT THE CASE. There are some expenses the SWAC has to cover. I'm SURE the SWAC has to cover or at least offset the COST of getting both teams there. I'm sure there are a ton of other expenses throughout the week. If there is some revenue sharing, it is simply PENNIES if the total revenue from ticket sales is $600,000 (25,000 PAYING people at the game).
This game is probably a LOSS financially. The only thing gained may be the extended practice time and recruiting advantage to both participating teams.
Look, it is not worth the argument. Lets say the game brings in 25,000 people at $20 per ticket. That is a total revenue of $500,000. Add another $100,000 for parking and consessions. If the SWAC didn't have to pay a DIME in expenses and each member school footed the bill to get the team, band, cheerleaders, media, etc. there (Which we know ain't the case), then 10 schools would split that $600,000. That is $60,000 per school.
That is simply NOT THE CASE. There are some expenses the SWAC has to cover. I'm SURE the SWAC has to cover or at least offset the COST of getting both teams there. I'm sure there are a ton of other expenses throughout the week. If there is some revenue sharing, it is simply PENNIES if the total revenue from ticket sales is $600,000 (25,000 PAYING people at the game).
This game is probably a LOSS financially. The only thing gained may be the extended practice time and recruiting advantage to both participating teams.
Blacknbengal
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Hmmm..........I wonder where I heard this before.
Mr. SWAC
F*** THE LAKERS!!!!!!
Stagg, do this for me. Find the same profits you are looking for in the SWAC, and pull it up for the SEC. I mean, if their's is so easy to find on Google, find it and post it. Chances are that they were printed in a newspaper article, and not posted on the SEC website.
staggalee83
War & Thunder
2005-2006 SEC Revenue Distribution
Pictured: SEC Commissioner Mike Slive (SEC Photo)
06/02/2006
The Southeastern Conference will distribute approximately $116.1 million to the 12 league institutions in the revenue sharing plan for the 2005-2006 fiscal year, which ends Aug. 31, 2006, according to league commissioner Mike Slive.
The $116.1 million is the highest total ever distributed in SEC history and represents a 4.4 percent increase from the $110.7 million distributed to the schools in 2004-2005.
The revenue sharing plans include money generated by football television, bowls, the SEC Football Championship, basketball television, the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament and NCAA Championships.
Broken down by categories and rounded off, the $116.1 million was derived from $47.4 million from football television, $20.7 million from bowls, $13.2 million from the SEC Football Championship, $12.1 million from basketball television, $4.4 million from the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament and $18.3 million from NCAA Championships.
The average amount distributed to each school which participated in all revenue sharing was $9.68 million.
Not included in the $116.1 million was $7.3 million retained by the institutions participating in bowls and $696,000 divided among all 12 institutions by the NCAA for academic enhancement.
Other yearly money distributions, since 1980, are as follows: 1980 ($4.1 million); 1981 ($5.57 million); 1982 ($7.24 million); 1983 ($9.53 million); 1984 ($18.4 million); 1985 ($9.34 million); 1986 ($13.1 million); 1987 ($13.56 million); 1988 ($14.34 million); 1989 ($13.85 million); 1990 ($16.3 million); 1991 ($20.6 million); 1992 ($27.7 million); 1993 ($34.34 million); 1994 ($34.36 million); 1995 ($40.3 million); 1996 ($45.5 million); 1997 ($58.9 million); 1998 ($61.2 million); 1999 ($68.5 million); 2000 ($73.2 million); 2001 ($78.1 million); 2002 ($95.7 million); 2003 ($101.9 million); 2004 ($108.8 million); 2005 ($110.7 million) and 2006 ($116.1 million).-SEC-
SEC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR 2006-07
Dr. Andrew Sorensen, University of South Carolina - President
E. Gordon Gee, Vanderbilt University - Vice President
Robert Weems, University of Mississippi - Secretary
Dr. Michael F. Adams, University of Georgia
Larry Templeton, Mississippi State University
Marcia Boosinger, Auburn University
Judy Southard, Louisiana State University
How's that for answering your question down to the letter.
He!!..............I even got you total figures from all the way back to 1980.
Anything else? :shame:
Want me to do the BIG 10, Big 12, or Pac 10 next?:no:
Blacknbengal
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Welcome to my lair the spider said to the fly.
Stag, why you baited this young buck into this? He seems to never get tired to make a donkey out of himself.
Stag, why you baited this young buck into this? He seems to never get tired to make a donkey out of himself.
staggalee83
War & Thunder
And it only took me 4 minutes from the time I read his post to actually finding the info and posting it.
That's the difference in PEOPLE DOING THE JOB THEY WAS HIRED TO DO and people that think I should do their job for them.
I'm still waiting on those SWAC figures. :no:
I'm not baiting.
You ask a simple question or make a simple comment on one of these boards, the know it all's come out the woodworks.
From now on, I'm gonna call these MoFo's on their "expertise".
Da_Sperm
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I'm waiting on you to call the SWAC Office. Why would you want to know the figures anyway. Do the math yourself. 25K * $25 = $500,000 to split. We don't have any bowl games, NCAA basketball appearances, football or basketball TV contracts, etc. All we have is the SCG. We may get a lil pie of the NCAA pie, but not much.
Again, it looks like there is really nothing to share. At most $50K per school if there were NO EXPENSES.
staggalee83
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I do like he say, show him how easy it was, and he's still going on and on. :xeye:
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SU Jag 79
Jaguar ALUM
Oh no buddy. Read my entire post. Not once did I BLAME B'Ham for the state of the game. I said for whatever reason this has not worked like the conference wants. If it did, why would they be entertaining thoughts of moving it?
MH, the SWAC probably considers that they "pushed" the game. You and I both know that the three times I have been, I don't remember much other than the game and I personally left right after the game each time for the six to seven hour drive. They have NOT done an adequate job of selling this weekend to the masses in BCF, much less B'Ham.
I suggested trying to a new place to breathe some life into the game. Of course, the conference has to do it's part.
Now, if you can tell me what's wrong with trying a new place for this game, maybe we can stop broad painting you guys as the ones" who just want to keep it close to them in Bama"?
The SCG needs to go in a new direction, which includes the atmosphere, the setup and yes, possibly the location.
Mr. SWAC
F*** THE LAKERS!!!!!!
I found this in just 1 minute of my search. You just gotta dig man.
http://www.ncaa.org/financial/revenue_distribution/99-00_total_distribution.html
Granted this one is outdated, but I think this one is more recent. It doesn't show the year though.
http://www1.ncaa.org/finance/5-yr_conf_summaries/Total_Dist2006.htm
And Stagg that is about the only one conference where you will find that data immediately. Try the OVC, MEAC, Big Sky, hell even the Pac 10, or the Big 10. I must admit I gave you one that was too easy. Find the others. Those are my request.
the band fan
Baseball Fan
history has shown Birmingham nor the state hasn't fully embraced the game for one reason or another....the SWAC-MEAC Challenge isn't supported well nor the SCG DESPITE Alabama teams competing...
folks want to say the bands in 1999 played a part in the 47,000 but if you remember, the two teams playing weren't half bad themselves....JSU had TWO NFL first round draft picks and Destry Wright playing and SU had the trio everyone loved to hate...Mike Hayes, Steve Wofford and Sam George...
could the names Chris Wallace, Johnny Baldwin, Mickey Dean get the average Birmingham fan out the house?
folks want to say the bands in 1999 played a part in the 47,000 but if you remember, the two teams playing weren't half bad themselves....JSU had TWO NFL first round draft picks and Destry Wright playing and SU had the trio everyone loved to hate...Mike Hayes, Steve Wofford and Sam George...
could the names Chris Wallace, Johnny Baldwin, Mickey Dean get the average Birmingham fan out the house?
DAHILL
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you do know Johnny Baldwin is from Birmingham dont you??? also wouldnt hurt that he has THREE Magic City Classic MVP trophies from Birmingham wouldnt it..
the band fan
Baseball Fan
I knew he was from around there...but is his name big out there?
DAHILL
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you answer that.... you the one who originally said it....
and you are crazy if you think names such as
"Destry Wright playing and SU had the trio everyone loved to hate...Mike Hayes, Steve Wofford and Sam George" were big in Birmingham to draw fans.
Mr. SWAC
F*** THE LAKERS!!!!!!
tbf I mean this in the sincerest way. You are full is isht.
Check this link and look on page 19.
Birmingham Operating Budget
The SWAC got $541,500 budgeted by Birmingham last fiscal year. How is that not embracing? Free facilital use, free office space, and etc. If anything the SWAC has not embraced Birmingham. What else do you want the city to do for you? The SWAC has to come out and support its teams, but instead you got folks tearing the game and teams down who are playing in it before the regular season was even over. Do you think the Rose Bowl depends fans of the City of Pasadina, Ca. to buy tickets to games.
Stop using 1999 SCG attendance as a crutch. The high school BOTB in B'ham draws 50,000+ every year. When you have 7/10 SWAC marching bands coming together, nobody ever heard of anything like it. That brought out the neutral fans and band heads. You could have done a pole on the folks from Birmingham that year and asked them if they knew who Destry Wright or Michael Hayes were. They would have said to you "hell no". So don't go trying to play that angle. Neutral fans couldn't even name 3 people off of Ohio States team this year.
Check this link and look on page 19.
Birmingham Operating Budget
The SWAC got $541,500 budgeted by Birmingham last fiscal year. How is that not embracing? Free facilital use, free office space, and etc. If anything the SWAC has not embraced Birmingham. What else do you want the city to do for you? The SWAC has to come out and support its teams, but instead you got folks tearing the game and teams down who are playing in it before the regular season was even over. Do you think the Rose Bowl depends fans of the City of Pasadina, Ca. to buy tickets to games.
Stop using 1999 SCG attendance as a crutch. The high school BOTB in B'ham draws 50,000+ every year. When you have 7/10 SWAC marching bands coming together, nobody ever heard of anything like it. That brought out the neutral fans and band heads. You could have done a pole on the folks from Birmingham that year and asked them if they knew who Destry Wright or Michael Hayes were. They would have said to you "hell no". So don't go trying to play that angle. Neutral fans couldn't even name 3 people off of Ohio States team this year.
JR
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I just got through looking at the sponsors for the bayou classic and I'm scratching my head at what this guy said when it comes to the lack of the classic's "major" sponsors...I'm only from Houston, Texas so I don't know anything and Huntsville is a metropolis of a city from what I observed so.......
Ford isn't "Major"?
Coors Light isn't "Major" - do you understand how much the beer industry nets?
Kellogs isn't major? Do you eat cereal?
SW Airlines? The nation's most profitable airline isn't "major?"
The marines, ebony magazine, AARP, NBC (NATIONAL TELEVISION), etc....damn....those aren't major also...
McDonald's sponsors the Battle of the Bands...etc....
damn.....
Thank you TBF.........and by the way I was the one who got Kellogg's to sponsor the BC for the first time back in 2001 when I worked for them in Battle Creek, Mi..... I can't believe someone doesn't think the BC has major sponsors. LOL. Oh well continue this off the wall conversation. Bama folks feel like this is an attack. At this point I am just going to sit back and watch the SWAC crumble and be the first one on here to say I told you so.....SMH. That's how sad it is for me.
the band fan
Baseball Fan
the 1999 game had better talent playing in it and the SU-JSU rematch was something people wanted to see...hell...I went down there to see that
the bands were a draw but they weren't really featured until the end and the crowd was thinned out......the real fans came to watch the game....
that game meant more for some odd reason than the rest of the SCGs
the bands were a draw but they weren't really featured until the end and the crowd was thinned out......the real fans came to watch the game....
that game meant more for some odd reason than the rest of the SCGs
DAHILL
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I am amazed at how much folks in THIS conference on this page want this weekends game to fail... Before you ask, NO you may not have said it directly but I can read through post. All of the "bet how many people will be at the SWAC championship game threads" are sad as hell..... but typical of Black folks. This conference will neva be **** because schools care about THEMSELVES and not the conference.... same reason why all conference teams are ucked up every year.... sids look our for THEMSELVES instead of rewarding the CORRECT student athletes.
the band fan
Baseball Fan
you know coaches vote also......and more coaches have beef with each other than SIDs..."you run the score up and I'll take it out on you come voting time...."
but its funny if that game was in Houston you Alabama folks would damn near be on the other side of the fence....
the main problem is the SWAC has had championships in football, basketball and baseball in Birmingham and it hasn't been embraced even though local teams have been there....
but its funny if that game was in Houston you Alabama folks would damn near be on the other side of the fence....
the main problem is the SWAC has had championships in football, basketball and baseball in Birmingham and it hasn't been embraced even though local teams have been there....
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