What do you think she is lying about regarding the emails? Especially since there was no government issued email for the state dept until midway through her tenure.
How many of you in here are feeling 'the bern' (Bernie Sanders)
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Tpop33
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With Bernie being Jewish, I don't think that will happen.Will these same folks who called President Obama a socialist create drawings of Bernie Sander with the Hitler mustache as if he is some Nazi Socialist???
People will draw us as monkey's before mocking a Jew as Hitler on a photo.
Tpop33
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Also you have to remember, you can't penalize someone for things happening after the fact.
There are those on this board that work in areas with sensitive material, data, etc. So you can't say someone did something wrong if they received something that wasn't labeled or was labeled after the fact.
jsupop33
Loyalty & Respect
I think she dayum well knew she was reading classified emails on her private email. She probably nobody would care this much to probe. I think the entire interview where she tried to downplay her knowledge of the server in general when she wrote that book was a lie. I think the GOP has made it a sideshow at this point but I ain't buying that ignorance of everything argument.
But the classified emails were not classified when they were sent to her. They were classified later.
jsupop33
Loyalty & Respect
Not all of them, there were a few dozen classified from day one.
jsupop33
Loyalty & Respect
For the record, I don't have a problem with what she did actually.
I have not seen where that was the case.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I'm not reading the whole thread but I don't like Hillary or Bernie for the simple fact that they won't change anything. Obama campaigned on Change and he just followed the same cookie cutter model as before. Granted, he had a republican congress 6 of his 8 years but that's our fault and it shows that a Democrat won't ever get anything done in this country.
The only candidate talking about REAL change is Trump but everyone is calling him a racist and a buffoon. A lot of what he wants will never come true (at least not with a lot of fighting especially with trades) but Obama and the rest are not serious about bringing jobs back to the US, etc.... . They are too afraid to upset other nations and too scared for us to become self sufficient.
The only candidate talking about REAL change is Trump but everyone is calling him a racist and a buffoon. A lot of what he wants will never come true (at least not with a lot of fighting especially with trades) but Obama and the rest are not serious about bringing jobs back to the US, etc.... . They are too afraid to upset other nations and too scared for us to become self sufficient.
How do you bring jobs back to the U.S. as the president?
CEE DOG
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Trump played a part in sending jobs over seas. Hince him becoming a billionaire. How hard is that to understand? Do you really think Trump cares about poor folks? If so why hasn't he helped poor people with all his money before now?
The only candidate talking about REAL change is Trump but everyone is calling him a racist and a buffoon. A lot of what he wants will never come true (at least not with a lot of fighting especially with trades) but Obama and the rest are not serious about bringing jobs back to the US, etc.... . They are too afraid to upset other nations and too scared for us to become self sufficient.[/QUOTE]
[quits="Tigerpride, post: 2509235, member: 70"]I'm not reading the whole thread but I don't like Hillary or Bernie for the simple fact that they won't change anything. Obama campaigned on Change and he just followed the same cookie cutter model as before. Granted, he had a republican congress 6 of his 8 years but that's our fault and it shows that a Democrat won't ever get anything done in this country.
The only candidate talking about REAL change is Trump but everyone is calling him a racist and a buffoon. A lot of what he wants will never come true (at least not with a lot of fighting especially with trades) but Obama and the rest are not serious about bringing jobs back to the US, etc.... . They are too afraid to upset other nations and too scared for us to become self sufficient.[/QUOTE]
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
It's called politics.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I'm sure some poor people have worked for Trump before. His enterprise employs everything from janitors and ground keepers, to top executives. I don't think he has mentioned hand outs... and if he sent job overseas, he is the ideal person to bring them back.
bigmanofds
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I can’t disagree with your assessment about Trump not caring about the poor. It’s kind of documented. According to Wikipedia, Trump initially came to public attention in 1973 when he was accused by the Justice Departmentof violations of the Fair Housing Act in the operation of 39 buildings. Trump in turn accused the Justice Department of targeting his company because it was a large one, and in order to force it to rent to welfare recipients. Trump settled the charges in 1975, saying he was satisfied that the agreement did not "compel the Trump organization to accept persons on welfare as tenants.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
LOL. you can shake your head all you want but someone has to TRY. You hear EVERY President say that but they are content about being nice about it... We have to convince our lawmakers not to be nice about. And let's not say what we can't do.. it might take 5 years or 50 years but someone has to plant the seed.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
How many of us have homes that we wouldn't rent out to Section 8 applicants? Some of us have to be honest with ourselves. I have so many friends who have horror stories about property rental. Just because you don't help people one way does not mean you can't help them in others. This is a bad example of him doing nothing for the poor. Maybe he was just protecting HIS property and looking out for his tenants.
bigmanofds
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So wouldn't you say he cared more for his for his own self interest than people. And this is who you want to be president?
SleepyCrat
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He's not serious about that, otherwise he would practice it himself. Also if he was serious he would recognize that the position of president has little to do with overseas outsourcing of labor.
J C
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I agree. See JSUpop33 post above. That's why Hillary needs to pressure the FBI and the Inspector General to release their reports ASAP.
bigmanofds
Well-Known Member
Now here are the hard details of the Trump case.
Inside the government’s racial bias case against Donald Trump’s company, and how he fought it
NEW YORK —When a black woman asked to rent an apartment in a Brooklyn complex managed by Donald Trump’s real estate company, she said she was told that nothing was available. A short time later, a white woman who made the same request was invited to choose between two available apartments.
The two would-be renters on that July 1972 day were actually undercover “testers” for a government-sanctioned investigation to determine whether Trump Management Inc. discriminated against minorities seeking housing at properties across Brooklyn and Queens.
Federal investigators also gathered evidence. Trump employees had secretly marked the applications of minorities with codes, such as “No. 9” and “C” for “colored,” according to government interview accounts filed in federal court. The employees allegedly directed blacks and Puerto Ricans away from buildings with mostly white tenants, and steered them toward properties that had many minorities, the government filings alleged.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html
Inside the government’s racial bias case against Donald Trump’s company, and how he fought it
NEW YORK —When a black woman asked to rent an apartment in a Brooklyn complex managed by Donald Trump’s real estate company, she said she was told that nothing was available. A short time later, a white woman who made the same request was invited to choose between two available apartments.
The two would-be renters on that July 1972 day were actually undercover “testers” for a government-sanctioned investigation to determine whether Trump Management Inc. discriminated against minorities seeking housing at properties across Brooklyn and Queens.
Federal investigators also gathered evidence. Trump employees had secretly marked the applications of minorities with codes, such as “No. 9” and “C” for “colored,” according to government interview accounts filed in federal court. The employees allegedly directed blacks and Puerto Ricans away from buildings with mostly white tenants, and steered them toward properties that had many minorities, the government filings alleged.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I'm saying if it was MY property, I might do the same thing.
2kool
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Obama turned out to be a complete fraud puppet in regards to poor folks.
The president serves at the will and pleasure of the PACs, Congress, and the military. The health industry (that funds the PACs) didn't want a public option in Obamacare. Guess what wasn't in Obamacare? A public option.
The president serves at the will and pleasure of the PACs, Congress, and the military. The health industry (that funds the PACs) didn't want a public option in Obamacare. Guess what wasn't in Obamacare? A public option.
bigmanofds
Well-Known Member
….and me too, but we are not running for president.
There is nothing in Donald Trump’s past or present that says anything other than Donald Trump is for Donald Trump. But hey, if you are cool with that you have every right to vote for him.