HBCU Accmulative Ticket Sales from 2005 to 2013


GramblingMan2009 said:
We walked away from the Port City Classic vs Tech with 750k and there are plenty FCS football programs in LA TX and Arkansas wanting to play in Shreveport. Grambling vs Northwestern State will draw 30k+ in Shreveport
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It's hard for people affiliated with other programs sometimes to realize this. We have a few programs like PV that have low aim. For example, you have Bama State that believe in their prowess and immediately build about a 30,000 seat stadium. On the other hand you have PV that builds a 15,000 seat stadium. However, ban fan knows better, he just enjoys being a nuisance. :lol: :emlaugh:
 



Journalist said:
More empty rhetoric I see ...

The reason I used aTm's move to the SEC wasn't because they have considerably more money than us HBCUs, it's because at the end of the day aTm saw the dollars and made the best decision for them. At the FBS level this round of conference realignment has a hell of a lot more to do with the money and maximizing revenue. Also, college football is driving the train.

I used aTm as an example because you were outchea flaunting geographic proximity as some great and grand way to save on expenses. Texas A&M was part of the Big 12 with closer travel to member schools. However, when push came to shove and the SEC came over talking about them getting more money over there than they stood to make in the Big 12, aTm jumped ship.

At the end of the day, TnSU has to look long and hard on whether membership in the OVC is really worth it ... just like some of our member schools have discussed/plan to discuss whether membership in the SWAC is really worth it.

At the end of the day, the name of the game in college athletics is to maximize your product and revenue streams.

Please, inform me ... what is TnSU doing to maximize revenue? Why are OVC members not showing up at LP Field or Hale? Why are your own fans not showing up at LP Field or Hale when TnSU plays other OVC members? Since you've used geographic proximity as a qualifier, please tell me why those other OVC fans weren't showing up in Nashville (a great city to visit, BTW).

Provide me with a SWOT analysis of the situation?

I'll be waiting over here.

BTW: For the sake of transparency, 2005-2013 was a terrible, terrible stretch for Southern football (post-Katrina, end of Pete Richardson's run, the Stump Mitchell experiment, LaFluer as AD, etc.) until we broke through and won the SWAC under Big Worm.
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sorry bro. I'm not going to waste anytime explaining something you won't understand. besides you have too much of a swac bias to see the truth.

good luck on the season.

shot out to get ready for speaking the truth.
 
Tigerpride said:
I agree that classics are a thing of the past but its not the concept that broken, it's the system. The big boys are starting to have classics in ATL, Dallas, DC, etc... but they have major sponsors and expensive tickets. For classics to survive, we need the big boys in BCF to participate to get the crowds back and hopefully better sponsors. We rarely get the good matchups anymore.
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I agree, some the matchups in classics are horrible.
 
the band fan said:
The PWI's don't want to partner with HBCUs for classics..lol..Grambling tried it and when certain people wanted to validate how it was going to be pulled off and revealed the contracts, certain FBS PWI schools jumped ship...when Tech and Grambling State played, Tech fans weren't interested like GSU fans were and same with ULM and GSU...their fans think their too good to show up but if they got to play LSU or someone like that, they would foam at the mouth just for the right to buy nosebleed seats



at the end of the day we saw who struggled during the recession and who didn't..what is a furlough?
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You do know that every school in the state of Louisiana had to do things such as furloughs due to extreme budget cuts right? It wasn't just Southern and Grambling having to do that. Even LSU had to flirt with the idea.
 
Journalist said:
If there was a plan with vision for the SWAC it would've been to sew up the major HBCU classics with member schools and put those games in a TV deal to broadcast those games. However, I'm afraid that boat has sailed.
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For the life of me I could never understand why the JSU vs SU game @ Memorial isn't televised.
 
number1 said:
You do know that every school in the state of Louisiana had to do things such as furloughs due to extreme budget cuts right? It wasn't just Southern and Grambling having to do that. Even LSU had to flirt with the idea.
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It's wasn't just Louisiana either. My furlough(s) came courtesy of the state of Georgia.....Same thing budget cuts......multiple times.....
 
the band fan said:
and the next year Alcorn came and it failed....NW State and GSU did a home and home and I never recalled 30K....

JROCK..what's a furlough?
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If you knew anything about the GSU vs NSU series, you would kno a hurricane came through on Saturday and pushed the game back to 2pm Sunday evening at NSU, and 6 inches of rain fell the next year in Gram and 8k people still showed up. Over 40k showed the first time they played in Shreveport
 
2kool said:
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:smh:....they are completely blind to this. Folks are stealing at our schools. All those PhDs in administrative positions have to be worth something.
 
number1 said:
You do know that every school in the state of Louisiana had to do things such as furloughs due to extreme budget cuts right? It wasn't just Southern and Grambling having to do that. Even LSU had to flirt with the idea.
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Even with subsidized School Funds, Prairie View's Athletic Department expenses went over by ($632,897) from 2005 to 2013. Without subsidized School Funds, Prairie View's Athletic Department expenses would have went over by ($28,379,113) from 2005 to 2013.

Prairie View's Athletic Department Financial Overview from 2005 to 2013:
Accumulative Revenues from 2005 to 2013 - $63,308,757
Accumulative Expenses from 2005 to 2013 - $63,941,654
Accumulative Subsidized School Funds from 2005 to 2013 - $27,746,216
 
again, Texas did not go through that for whatever reason..until we're self-sufficient, stop laying people off in critical positions, we all have problems

in 2008, there weren't 8K at Northwestern State...maybe tickets sold
 
GramblingMan2009 said:
If you knew anything about the GSU vs NSU series, you would kno a hurricane came through on Saturday and pushed the game back to 2pm Sunday evening at NSU, and 6 inches of rain fell the next year in Gram and 8k people still showed up. Over 40k showed the first time they played in Shreveport
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Threats of a Hurricane hurt that game. Worry about PV dude, no room whatsoever.
 
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the band fan said:
again, Texas did not go through that for whatever reason..until we're self-sufficient, stop laying people off in critical positions, we all have problems

in 2008, there weren't 8K at Northwestern State...maybe tickets sold
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Hurricane Ike effect, try again. I remember like it was yesterday, the game was moved to a Sunday and at 2pm.
 
BulldogM.Ed.23 said:
Where in this thread did any AAMU poster mention Tennessee State? What are you talking about bro.?
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He is referencing my initial post in this topic, I thought it was funny how buddy said that TSU was in the best possible position but when evidence was presented contrary to that notion he balked. You can argue with ideas, but not with statistics.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
SU's budget is still greater :)
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But they still can't afford to carry all the sports in the conference.....

number1 said:
You do know that every school in the state of Louisiana had to do things such as furloughs due to extreme budget cuts right? It wasn't just Southern and Grambling having to do that. Even LSU had to flirt with the idea.
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Arn't those the only 2 Swac schools in that state

JAG89 said:
Even with subsidized School Funds, Prairie View's Athletic Department expenses went over by ($632,897) from 2005 to 2013. Without subsidized School Funds, Prairie View's Athletic Department expenses would have went over by ($28,379,113) from 2005 to 2013.

Prairie View's Athletic Department Financial Overview from 2005 to 2013:
Accumulative Revenues from 2005 to 2013 - $63,308,757
Accumulative Expenses from 2005 to 2013 - $63,941,654
Accumulative Subsidized School Funds from 2005 to 2013 - $27,746,216
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You need to know that isn't actually general school funds. In Texas we can't use state money for that.
 
Fiyah said:
But they still can't afford to carry all the sports in the conference.....
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Actually our budget has increased by over $2M since then... we can afford it, just choose put the additional money into our existing programs.




You need to know that isn't actually general school funds. In Texas we can't use state money for that.
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You can't use state appropriations... you can use SCHOOL funds, such as money generated from tuition, sales, etc. It's just semantics since the state gives you money for your school budget anyway.
 
Fiyah said:
You need to know that isn't actually general school funds. In Texas we can't use state money for that.
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Then where did the funds come from??? When I see the title "School Funds", I get the impression that it came from the school's budget that could have been used in other areas.

When I look at most HBCU's athletic finances, it reminds me of those Black organizations that would spend more money to do a fundraiser in order to look good then the money they actually raised, which makes no sense. In that case, instead of calling them fundraisers, they should call them decline of funds or deficit spending.
 
jag4life said:
You can't use state appropriations... you can use SCHOOL funds, such as money generated from tuition, sales, etc. It's just semantics since the state gives you money for your school budget anyway.
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Which means they are cheating other programs to subsidize their athletic program. It is like what the old folks would say, "robbing Peter to pay Paul".
 
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