HBCU Accmulative Ticket Sales from 2005 to 2013


You don't have a baseball team for starters. That sport has incredible travel costs over the course of a season.
Also, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Jackson State, Mississippi Valley, Alabama State and Alabama A&M are within 414 miles of your campus and in neighboring states... so in essence half of the conference is in that precious drive time window that the majority of the OVC schools are in...

The OVC is STILL a one-bid basketball league, and you guys -- like everyone else -- are hitting the road in the non-conference taking guarantee games before the conference schedule to balance the books.

Oh and in football, you don't play Jackson State in Jackson. So right there, one of your biggest paydays has some savings because of reduced travel.

Since you're insulting my "liberal arts" education, riddle me this you big time Fortune 500 CEO you ...

Football drives college athletics. Why are you in a conference where all the member schools are closer in distance, but they don't show up to your stadium for your games in one of America's largest cities? What turns those other OVC schools' fans off about playing TnSU in Nashville? What turns your fans off about seeing the other OVC schools play TnSU? Why are you bragging on geographic proximity to other institutions when statistically speaking your geographic proximity to other OVC members has not translated into increased ticket revenue from 2008-13?

What's the use of harping on "reduced travel expenses" in college athletics when football pays the bills and four other SWAC institutions have made more than you?

I'll be waiting over here while you supply some statistical evidence that proves your point. At least come with some proof. Until then ...

We don't believe you ... you need more people


Oh BTW, Texas A&M could've stayed in the Big 12 and bragged about geographic proximity ... but they saw that SEC money and went for the money. You see where I'm getting at, right?
You do realize this round of conference realignment doesn't a damned thing to do with geography ... it has everything to do with maximizing revenue streams? Another question, big-time Fortune 500 CEO ... what does TnSU plan to do to maximize revenue? Obviously that ticket revenue with that good geographic proximity to other OVC members is doing wonders for the athletic department's coffers.
KO :lol:
 



But they don't need the SWAC lol... according to their posters they have the best possible situation

They are getting the best of both worlds in football.....

And so did SU. Some schools needs to step it up. The Texas schools :smh:

The Texas schools don't seem to be having financial problems in their athletic programs or getting screwed by their biggest game funds being put in the schools general fund instead of going back into athletics to help offset its cost.

Leave us out of that mess.......
 
Might see a big increase in AAMU's figures real soon. Lots of changes happening on the Hill athletically!!
Typically what happens, attendance during our first game is usually decent. Having our own Classic has boosted attendance some. During the next 2 games, if the team is doing well and the school we are playing is not too bad, more than likely we will still have good crowd attendance especially if homecoming is one of those games. However once the MCC has been played, that's pretty much it. What could have been an average of over 10,000-11,000 usually drops down to about 9,000 or 8,000 because of lack of interest in the later home games. For as much flak that we get, it is still not too bad especially when you compare to other non-hbcu schools & conferences.

...but yes JTHomas, it will be interesting to see what the figures will be this season. Our cupboard is still bare and it will be a minute before we have our first home game in 2014. Yet, if we start off somewhat decent and with the way Spady has been trying to reach out locally, I agree that the figures will increase.
 
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You don't have a baseball team for starters. That sport has incredible travel costs over the course of a season.
Also, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Jackson State, Mississippi Valley, Alabama State and Alabama A&M are within 414 miles of your campus and in neighboring states... so in essence half of the conference is in that precious drive time window that the majority of the OVC schools are in...

The OVC is STILL a one-bid basketball league, and you guys -- like everyone else -- are hitting the road in the non-conference taking guarantee games before the conference schedule to balance the books.

Oh and in football, you don't play Jackson State in Jackson. So right there, one of your biggest paydays has some savings because of reduced travel.

Since you're insulting my "liberal arts" education, riddle me this you big time Fortune 500 CEO you ...

Football drives college athletics. Why are you in a conference where all the member schools are closer in distance, but they don't show up to your stadium for your games in one of America's largest cities? What turns those other OVC schools' fans off about playing TnSU in Nashville? What turns your fans off about seeing the other OVC schools play TnSU? Why are you bragging on geographic proximity to other institutions when statistically speaking your geographic proximity to other OVC members has not translated into increased ticket revenue from 2008-13?

What's the use of harping on "reduced travel expenses" in college athletics when football pays the bills and four other SWAC institutions have made more than you?

I'll be waiting over here while you supply some statistical evidence that proves your point. At least come with some proof. Until then ...

We don't believe you ... you need more people


Oh BTW, Texas A&M could've stayed in the Big 12 and bragged about geographic proximity ... but they saw that SEC money and went for the money. You see where I'm getting at, right?
You do realize this round of conference realignment doesn't a damned thing to do with geography ... it has everything to do with maximizing revenue streams? Another question, big-time Fortune 500 CEO ... what does TnSU plan to do to maximize revenue? Obviously that ticket revenue with that good geographic proximity to other OVC members is doing wonders for the athletic department's coffers.

Being in Nashville for the last 6 years and working in higher ed. to actually see what TN State does u are 100 percent correct..
 
Posted by BlueDog on Meacfanszone. Interesting


MEAC Accumulative Ticket Sales Revenue from 2005 to 2013

North Carolina A&T $6,653,814.00

Norfolk State $3,814,784.00

Florida A&M $16,452,317.00

South Carolina State $6,450,282.00

Morgan State $1,438,547.00

North Carolina Central $3,597,377.00

Savannah State $1,010,617.00

Delaware State $990,387.00


Total= $40,408,125.00

Note: BCC,HU, and Howard public record unavailable.

Those three schools probably average somewhere around the same as NCCU and Norfolk State ($3.8 million) during the same time period, which would increase the MEAC total by $11.4 million. With an $11.4 million increase, the MEAC's total ticket sales revenue would still be below the SWAC's total ticket sales revenue by $9 million to $10 million and the MEAC has 11 member schools versus the SWAC's 10 member schools. I'm sure TnSU can increase it's ticket sales revenue to somewhere close to Southern, FAMU, or Grambling, which is double their current ticket sales revenue if they decided to leave the OVC. Also, if FAMU left the MEAC for the SWAC, their ticket sales revenue would probably exponentially increase, which would be a win-win situation since their rivalry schools in the SWAC would also increase with them being on their schedule.

SWAC Accumulative Ticket Sales Revenue from 2005 to 2013

Southern - $15,512,459.00

Grambling - $11,528,108.00

Jackson State - $10,120,239.00

Alabama State - $7,351,561.00

Arkansas Pine Bluff - $4,308,460.00

Alabama A&M - $3,663,428.00

Prairie View - $3,410,097.00

Alcorn - $2,135,337.00

Texas Southern - $1,671,247.00

Mississippi Valley - $1,327,894.00


Total= $61,028,830.00



Tennessee State - $7,066,878.00


www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/
 
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And you still can't get anyone to come to the games?

Man those dummies had a playoff game in Indy and had only 1,928 people show up (and some of that was for the opposing team . :smh: :lol: Those folks at TNST don't care about playing PWC consistently other than a few message board idiots. :lol: :emlaugh:
 
One school loves to brag on attendences but we see they have been letting folks in free :lol: . So that means their attendence numbers should have a * by it :lol:

Except for two games, didn't I once say when you have a stadium big enough to hold 4 to 5 times more than your attendance average, you can do a 3 for 1 deal for the other games, which means the purchase of 1 ticket can get three people into the game.
 
Were there $10 and $15 tickets to get in some of jsu's games??? You will see a bigger drop in attendance now that ticket prices have gone up.

Not sure, I always buy 20 dollar tickets. What I do know is the weekly undercounting thats been going on at JSU games for years is getting out of hand. For example Over 40k for homecoming in 2011 but only 38k reported smh. As far as the drop in attendance, it depends on JSU. If they are winning people are gonna show up it always been that way. I expect over 30k to be in attendance for the FAMU game.
 
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This is where I blame our commissioner for not promoting the SWAC. He could used those numbers to attract schools that would maximize member schools profit.
 
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obviously higher ticket sales does not translate to stable budgets so where is the money going or are the figures legit?

You've been around long enough to know, none of these programs are self sufficient. Basically, all it states is the university/state is subsidizing much less at some schools than others. Hence, your question is moot. The Texas SWAC schools need to sell more tickets to reduce the liability to your schools.
 
They are getting the best of both worlds in football.....



The Texas schools don't seem to be having financial problems in their athletic programs or getting screwed by their biggest game funds being put in the schools general fund instead of going back into athletics to help offset its cost.

Leave us out of that mess.......

SU's budget is still greater :)
 
attract schools to do what?

Maybe one day join the conference. Although they are probably to damn stubborn for their own good, this would be a easy sale to TnSU and FAMU. Screw a damn playoff when they can double their ticket sales revenue.
 
based on what? Staffing does not reflect it...

Seriously? I know Worm has more coaches than Pete had. So does Banks have more help than Spivery did. Even Cador finally got 2 full time assistants and if Coach P could have gotten his VISA stuff squared away. He would have had 3 coaches.
 
You've been around long enough to know, none of these programs are self sufficient. Basically, all it states is the university/state is subsidizing much less at some schools than others. Hence, your question is moot. The Texas SWAC schools need to sell more tickets to reduce the liability to your schools.

It's called being complacency, which is how Black folks get when things are good. They won't realize it until the State of Texas decides to send them the ole ax.
 
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based on what? Staffing does not reflect it...

PV A&M needed 6 million dollars of school funds to balance their budget in 2013. I see some of you all aren't paying attention to those numbers. 60% of your budget was subsidized. In contrast only 24% of S.U.'s was....
 
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Seriously? I know Worm has more coaches than Pete had. So does Banks have more help than Spivery did. Even Cador finally got 2 full time assistants and if Coach P could have gotten his VISA stuff squared away. He would have had 3 coaches.

I heard he straight, so Cador will have 3 full time assistants.
 
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