Gays Getting Married in San Francisco
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jstate83
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And now people are beginning to notice. Two groups and private citizens are banning together and calling for the heads of the Mayor and Atty Gen. for breaking and not enforcing the law.
Lawsuit
California has a ban on certain assult weapons too. I guess if the Mayor say "one gun is just as good as the next", he can say CLUCK the law and let shops sell "ALL" weapons in this case also.
After all, they are making the rules as they go. Except GUNS are not Politically Correct like this issue is.
dacontinent
Preacher
bluedog...Thanks for holding it down that last couple of days. I understand where you are coming from.
Sin is sin...but some sins are worse than others. Sexual sins fall into that category. I don't have time to explain that right now, but holla if you really want to know.
It really is all about choices. I read an earlier post waiting for God Himself to post here. Well, I am honored as His representative to do so. It reads as follows from Deuteronomy Chapter 30
19I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
See...the Lord spoke out on these kinds of things a long time ago. Read His posts in the Bible.
Sin is sin...but some sins are worse than others. Sexual sins fall into that category. I don't have time to explain that right now, but holla if you really want to know.
It really is all about choices. I read an earlier post waiting for God Himself to post here. Well, I am honored as His representative to do so. It reads as follows from Deuteronomy Chapter 30
19I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
See...the Lord spoke out on these kinds of things a long time ago. Read His posts in the Bible.
LadyLuck13
Chocolate Rain
Originally posted by bluedog
You keep trying to put law into this and the fact of the matter is there are laws against it, as a matter of fact the mayor is breaking the law now but you "chose" to ignore that.
Laws against a gay marriage? Please find that for me...Now there are clauses in the law that pretain to what the ideal marriage is, supposedly a man and woman. There is no law that I have seen that says a man/man or woman/woman can NOT be wed.
I'm still waiting on your answer to the questions I asked concerning things that aren't in the constitution. Not sure what they were...
I by no means intend to offend you but it seems to me you want to be a Christian of convenience. So you are a non-sinner right? I'm not a half-baked Christian, but I prefer the term:
a "Christian-who-strives-everyday- to become-a-better-Christian." If you are a sinner, which I'm 110% sure you are, that makes you one too. Next point.
At no time did Jesus or his disciples waver from their conviction because they were in Rome or because the so-call times had change, if they did show me the chapter. ???Look, I'm not gonna go sweeping through the Bible pulling out scriptures. I can't show you anywhere about times changing in the Bible....
As far as times changing, yes the TIMES have CHANGED and you aren't accepting that. I'm NOT asking you to accept that gays will soon be getting married. Times are changing, but it doesn't mean your VALUES need to change. I'm not disagreeing with you on the point that gay marriages are WRONG, but I'm just telling you that the law WILL PASS FOR GAYS TO GET MARRIED! Otherwise, according to the law, it would be UNCONSITTUTIONAL...
You can't go around being a half-baked Christian that causes more people to backslide then the word free makes your relatives appear at your front door. And tell me about your last sin-free day.....Remember, we as Christians are human and sin everyday, the best thing we can do is ask for forgiveness and strive to not make the same mistakes.
Now if your gay just go ahead and say that. It's obvious from the type of conversation nobody here is going to curse you out or even ban you from the board. No, I am not a lesbian.That way a lot of what your saying would be a whole lot clearer (at least to me) and cut down on a lot of what seems like you talking from both sides of the fence. You've just now realized!!!:idea:I am looking at the situation from both sides of the fence. If you take the time to read my posts and let them marinate, rather than coming back and saying the same thing, you would realize that I am agreeing with about 70% of what you are saying.
Btw when did American law start over ruling Gods law?
:uhoh:Have you fallen off the face of the earth lately or something?In my heart, AMERICAN law will NEVER superceed God's Laws. But in the society we live here on earth, a looong time ago, American law started overlooking God's law. We've already gone over this, but I'll say it again.....
First America writes the Pledge of Allegance, then takes it out of school.
First we allow prayer, then take it out of school. Yes these things, I'd love to say in the classroom with the children, however, the AMERICAN LAW can take me to jail for this. Need I give another example? Yes? Ok, gays/lesbians getting ready to make it LEGAL to GET MARRIED.
*crowd applauses* Thank you, thank you.
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
Glad to see you patting yourself on the back for taking a week to reply....how was the meeting? 
Well even though it took you all of a week to finally come up with some answers I will say that much for you ....it's an answer.
I understand what your saying but our conversation is about legalizing gay marriage
Btw did you notice I didn't have to have a week long PTA meeting to reply?
Well even though it took you all of a week to finally come up with some answers I will say that much for you ....it's an answer.
Originally posted by LadyLuck13
*crowd applauses* Thank you, thank you.
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Originally posted by bluedog
You keep trying to put law into this and the fact of the matter is there are laws against it, as a matter of fact the mayor is breaking the law now but you "chose" to ignore that.
Laws against a gay marriage? Please find that for me...Now there are clauses in the law that pretain to what the ideal marriage is, supposedly a man and woman. There is no law that I have seen that says a man/man or woman/woman can NOT be wed.
I think some where in this week long meeting you came up with something like "Have you fallen off the face of the earth lately or something?" Obviously you most have taken the fall with me. What part of the mayor is breaking the law by allowing them to get licenses to marry are you missing.
I'm still waiting on your answer to the questions I asked concerning things that aren't in the constitution. Not sure what they were...
I by no means intend to offend you but it seems to me you want to be a Christian of convenience. So you are a non-sinner right? I'm not a half-baked Christian, but I prefer the term:
a "Christian-who-strives-everyday- to become-a-better-Christian." If you are a sinner, which I'm 110% sure you are, that makes you one too. Next point.
Either you don't understand what your saying or your trying to divert from the fact that your willing to accept anything the world hands out to you. My statement has nothing to do with being a sinner.
At no time did Jesus or his disciples waver from their conviction because they were in Rome or because the so-call times had change, if they did show me the chapter. ??? Look, I'm not gonna go sweeping through the Bible pulling out scriptures. I can't show you anywhere about times changing in the Bible.... Help me understand what your point was in that statement.
*Sigh* One more time, if your going to profess Christ as your savor and say that you believe in Gods laws, you don't just throw up your hands and go.....Well times have change so I'm willing to accept sin even if mans law is broken.
But than again I forget you still haven't figure out that the law is being broken....have you?
As far as times changing, yes the TIMES have CHANGED and you aren't accepting that. I'm NOT asking you to accept that gays will soon be getting married.
Sounds like a oxymoron to me, make up your mind, do you want me to accept it or don't you?
Times are changing, but it doesn't mean your VALUES need to change. I'm not disagreeing with you on the point that gay marriages are WRONG, but I'm just telling you that the law WILL PASS FOR GAYS TO GET MARRIED! Otherwise, according to the law, it would be UNCONSITTUTIONAL...
For some reason you are hell bent on making this a constitutional issue and since you are please show TSPN where it's written in the constitution that if your gay you have a right to get married.
You can't go around being a half-baked Christian that causes more people to backslide then the word free makes your relatives appear at your front door. And tell me about your last sin-free day.....Remember, we as Christians are human and sin everyday, the best thing we can do is ask for forgiveness and strive to not make the same mistakes.
Why is it so hard for you to know the difference between something having to do with being a sinner and not Satan leadway?
Now if your gay just go ahead and say that. It's obvious from the type of conversation nobody here is going to curse you out or even ban you from the board. No, I am not a lesbian.That way a lot of what your saying would be a whole lot clearer (at least to me) and cut down on a lot of what seems like you talking from both sides of the fence. You've just now realized!!!I am looking at the situation from both sides of the fence. If you take the time to read my posts and let them marinate, rather than coming back and saying the same thing, you would realize that I am agreeing with about 70% of what you are saying.
This is the second time that you've insinuated that I don't read through your post and for the second time your wrong. Maybe if you take your own advice you may understand that my difference with you is on one simple issue...."you willing to accept sin" because "you" say times have change and being hell bent in trying to make it a constitutional law.
Btw when did American law start over ruling Gods law?
Have you fallen off the face of the earth lately or something? In my heart, AMERICAN law will NEVER superceed God's Laws. But in the society we live here on earth, a looong time ago, American law started overlooking God's law. We've already gone over this, but I'll say it again.....
First America writes the Pledge of Allegance, then takes it out of school.
Ahh ...the Pledge of Allegance has nothing to do with the bible or Gods law.
First we allow prayer, then take it out of school. Yes these things, I'd love to say in the classroom with the children, however, the AMERICAN LAW can take me to jail for this. Need I give another example? Yes? Ok, gays/lesbians getting ready to make it LEGAL to GET MARRIED.
I understand what your saying but our conversation is about legalizing gay marriage
Btw did you notice I didn't have to have a week long PTA meeting to reply?
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
Re: This should be great as far as most TSPNers are concerned.
You sound just about as stupid as the racist "looked" when his answer to why he hated blacks was becasue he was beaten up in school by some black kids and a little 10 yr old white girl in the audience asked him if there weren't any white bullies.
You sound just about as stupid as the racist "looked" when his answer to why he hated blacks was becasue he was beaten up in school by some black kids and a little 10 yr old white girl in the audience asked him if there weren't any white bullies.
LadyLuck13
Chocolate Rain
Bluedog...
First of all, your last post was Saturday and unfortunately I don't work on Satudays/Sundays and reply to your no-substance posts during workdays when I have absolutly nothing to do, (which is about 3 weeks out of the month). Let's see, Saturday was only 3 days from my last reply.
I'll try to make my point about this issue as Clear as mud for you.
Look, world is becoming more and more corrupt by sin as TIME CHANGES. People still being racially profiled. Overseas, politicians corrupting their own countries (Haiti, Iraq, Germany, etc.) during Holy times people are strapping themselves as suicide bombers, GAYS on tv/advertisements/videos, GAYS GETTING MARRIED, etc. and NO, I don't accept this at all.....Got that so far? Please don't come back in another post, telling me that I'm accepting this. Point being? Just know, whether or not this law passes, THE WORLD WILL CONTINUE TO SPIN....As long as you are living YOUR life as close to Christian as possible, YOU WILL BE FINE. Don't worry about the others, GOD will decide what he wants to do with them. As a liberal, I don't limit my mind to many things and pretty much go with the flow. But since you're concerned about this GAY LAW and how Anti-Chrisitan it is, consider this: Sweep in front of YOUR OWN FRONT PORCH before you sweep in front of SOMEONE ELSE'S.
POINT? Just pray for these times. These are supposedly the last days (not sure how true that is)...Just pray that they and YOU become better Christians. Now that's not being a half-baked Christian.
First of all, your last post was Saturday and unfortunately I don't work on Satudays/Sundays and reply to your no-substance posts during workdays when I have absolutly nothing to do, (which is about 3 weeks out of the month). Let's see, Saturday was only 3 days from my last reply.
I'll try to make my point about this issue as Clear as mud for you.
Look, world is becoming more and more corrupt by sin as TIME CHANGES. People still being racially profiled. Overseas, politicians corrupting their own countries (Haiti, Iraq, Germany, etc.) during Holy times people are strapping themselves as suicide bombers, GAYS on tv/advertisements/videos, GAYS GETTING MARRIED, etc. and NO, I don't accept this at all.....Got that so far? Please don't come back in another post, telling me that I'm accepting this. Point being? Just know, whether or not this law passes, THE WORLD WILL CONTINUE TO SPIN....As long as you are living YOUR life as close to Christian as possible, YOU WILL BE FINE. Don't worry about the others, GOD will decide what he wants to do with them. As a liberal, I don't limit my mind to many things and pretty much go with the flow. But since you're concerned about this GAY LAW and how Anti-Chrisitan it is, consider this: Sweep in front of YOUR OWN FRONT PORCH before you sweep in front of SOMEONE ELSE'S.
POINT? Just pray for these times. These are supposedly the last days (not sure how true that is)...Just pray that they and YOU become better Christians. Now that's not being a half-baked Christian.
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
Re: Bluedog...
You mean like all of this diversion?
Let's see 02-26-04 05:03 PM your reply date was 03-02-04 09:37 AM, ok fri., sat., sun., mon., tues., seems like five days to me. Who cares if you don't work on weekends? Go to the library.
Btw my last post to you was Thrusday. Didn't you mention something about keeping up?
Maybe you should take some of that mud and scurry to the your closet, take out your easy bake oven and make me some pies.Because that's about all your mud is good for.
Clear examples of you insinuating that you do/willing to accept gays getting married.
Now as for this nonsense......
.........which part of this conversation is it that you miss the fact "YOU" asked for my opinon and to answer "YOUR" question?
Again your showing clearly that you have no understanding of the meaning repercussion. So here goes.....................
reperfusion >
repercussion
SYLLABICATION: re?per?cus?sion
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: rpr-kshn, rpr- KEY
NOUN: 1. An often indirect effect, influence, or result that is produced by an event or action.
2. A recoil, rebounding, or reciprocal motion after impact.
3. A reflection, especially of sound.
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English repercussioun, from Old French repercussion, from Latin repercussi, repercussin-, from repercussus, past participle of repercutere, to cause to rebound : re-, re- + percutere, to strike; see percuss.
OTHER FORMS: reper?cussive ?ADJECTIVE
.................now when people like me don't worry about (as you put it) such things as crime and drugs etc. What does webster say is the results? Since your big on man written things.
Now you and the white guy with the big forehead can have a week long meeting over there =======================> and come up with another way to divert or spin it over here.
You mean like all of this diversion?
Originally posted by LadyLuck13
First of all, your last post was Saturday and unfortunately I don't work on Satudays/Sundays and reply to your no-substance postsduring workdays when I have absolutly nothing to do, (which is about 3 weeks out of the month). Let's see, Saturday was only 3 days from my last reply.
Let's see 02-26-04 05:03 PM your reply date was 03-02-04 09:37 AM, ok fri., sat., sun., mon., tues., seems like five days to me. Who cares if you don't work on weekends? Go to the library.
Btw my last post to you was Thrusday. Didn't you mention something about keeping up?
Maybe you should take some of that mud and scurry to the your closet, take out your easy bake oven and make me some pies.Because that's about all your mud is good for.
Clear examples of you insinuating that you do/willing to accept gays getting married.
Originally posted by LadyLuck13
America the free.....
Now as for this nonsense......
.........which part of this conversation is it that you miss the fact "YOU" asked for my opinon and to answer "YOUR" question?
Again your showing clearly that you have no understanding of the meaning repercussion. So here goes.....................
reperfusion >
repercussion
SYLLABICATION: re?per?cus?sion
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: rpr-kshn, rpr- KEY
NOUN: 1. An often indirect effect, influence, or result that is produced by an event or action.
2. A recoil, rebounding, or reciprocal motion after impact.
3. A reflection, especially of sound.
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English repercussioun, from Old French repercussion, from Latin repercussi, repercussin-, from repercussus, past participle of repercutere, to cause to rebound : re-, re- + percutere, to strike; see percuss.
OTHER FORMS: reper?cussive ?ADJECTIVE
.................now when people like me don't worry about (as you put it) such things as crime and drugs etc. What does webster say is the results? Since your big on man written things.
Now you and the white guy with the big forehead can have a week long meeting over there =======================> and come up with another way to divert or spin it over here.
CriTAUcal
Do Good; Good Follows
First of all, I'm not a "Bruh!" I am a WOMAN!
Second, I reserved my comments, because that's what I chose to do! I can do that. That doesn't mean I have to stop reading! It's a public forum.
But since I'm typing, here's my contribution to the thread on gay marriages: I'm against it, but grown folks 'gon do what they want to do. This world is going to hell with gasoline drawers on, and times aren't going to get any better until we FIRST acknowledge God, repent and look to Him for guidance. And that's not JUST on homosexuality but EVERYTHING that's not like Christ and unpleasing to Him. God help us all, 'cause we need Him moreso today than EVER before!
LadyLuck13
Chocolate Rain
ok now, you've gotten away from what this forum was here to discuss...I clearly stated my point on how I feel about gay marriage a LOOONG time ago and at this point, since this discussion has oozed into another GALAXY, I will push the IGNORE button on bluedog. It's as simple as this: you've only got a few LOGICAL choices when it comes to the gay marriage issue:
1. Move on
2. Sit up and complain about how unGodly or unChrisitan gay marriage is, when other unGodly things are going on in the world as well
3. Move on
or
4. Move on
1. Move on
2. Sit up and complain about how unGodly or unChrisitan gay marriage is, when other unGodly things are going on in the world as well
3. Move on
or
4. Move on
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
Originally posted by CriTAUcal
First of all, I'm not a "Bruh!" I am a WOMAN!
Second, I reserved my comments, because that's what I chose to do! I can do that. That doesn't mean I have to stop reading! It's a public forum.
But since I'm typing, here's my contribution to the thread on gay marriages: I'm against it, but grown folks 'gon do what they want to do. This world is going to hell with gasoline drawers on, and times aren't going to get any better until we FIRST acknowledge God, repent and look to Him for guidance. And that's not JUST on homosexuality but EVERYTHING that's not like Christ and unpleasing to Him. God help us all, 'cause we need Him moreso today than EVER before!
Made you do it though huh?
LadyLuck13
Chocolate Rain
Now you're really making sense.... I will not state my political party, but Listen to your comments...Democrat or Republican, I still will have a certain view on gay marriage...There are people of both parties who feel the same.
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
Originally posted by LadyLuck13
I will not state my political party, but Listen to your comments...Democrat or Republican, I still will have a certain view on gay marriage...There are people of both parties who feel the same.
Ummm it's called sarcasm. You did say something about keeping up.............right?
CriTAUcal
Do Good; Good Follows
Originally posted by bluedog
Made you do it though huh?
No Sweetie, that is still what I chose to do (by eventually sharing my opinion on gay marriages.)
But if it strokes your ego to think that you made CriTAUcal contribute to the discussion, you go right ahead and think that! :kiss:
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