Feeding Tube Debate


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SLT

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What are your views on the husband of Terry Schiavo wanting to have her feeding tube removed.

Her parents are fighting him on this because he says she is not conscious of her surroundings. She has been in this state for 15 years, but her eyes are open and her parents say she does interract (smile, blink, etc..).

He has gone on with his life and is now living with a woman with whom he has children, even though he has not divorced Terry.


Any opinions on this?
 
Last-ditch bid in right-to-die case

House committee to issue subpoena to stop removal of feeding tube

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Employing an "extraordinary congressional" maneuver, House Republican leadership early Friday made a last-ditch effort to keep doctors from removing Terri Schiavo's feeding tube.

Schiavo is scheduled to have her feeding tube removed at 1 p.m. today, under court order.

"Later this morning, we will issue a subpoena, which will require hospice administrators and attending physicians to preserve nutrition and hydration for Terri Schiavo to allow Congress to fully understand the procedures and practices that are currently keeping her alive," a statement from the House Republican leadership said




http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/18/schiavo.brain-damaged/index.html
 



The fact that she's not brain dead and is able to interract tells me the tub shouldnt be removed. Since the Husband has moved on with his life, he should leave the decision to her parents.
 
If he is still the husband, then it should be his decision and not the parents, regardless if he has moved on with his life. How long has she been in that state?
 
She has been in that state for 15 years.

If he has moved on with his life, he should divorce her and leave her care to her parents.

I, however, would never want to live that way.
 
Vinita said:
If he has moved on with his life, he should divorce her and leave her care to her parents.
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Since there is no legal document with her stating her wishes, it is merely heresay.
 
Everyone is going off of emotion. It has been 15 years. Furthermore is she brain dead? If so, then they (her parents) should allow her to pass away. It's a hard decision and that's one of the reason why I have a DNR. Furthermore, discussed it with my family not to allow me to live that way.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
It has been 15 years. Furthermore is she brain dead?
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DSN,

She is not brain dead, but she is just not able to do anything for herself. Her husband says she is not conscious of her surroundings even though her eyes are open and she blinks.


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Terri Schiavo gets a kiss from her mother, Mary Schindler, in this August 11, 2001, image taken from videotape.
 
SLT said:
DSN,

She is not brain dead, but she is just not able to to anything for herself. Her husband says she is not conscious of her surroundings even though her eyes are open and she blinks.


story.schiavo.file.ap.jpg

Terri Schiavo gets a kiss from her mother, Mary Schindler, in this August 11, 2001, image taken from videotape.
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Thank you!
 
This is a hard issue. I don't think Congress should be involve.

Generally, once a couple gets married, they are one unit. This unit does not include the parents of the husband or the wife. The problem is, he has not divorce his wife and he has move on with another woman which seriously damages his credibility. I want to guess that he feels that he wants to end her suffering and lack of a quality life. Turning her over to the parents would automatically mean extending the suffering.

I mean you have doctor after doctor saying that she is not even remotely close someone who has a mental disorder.
 
SLT said:
DSN,

She is not brain dead, but she is just not able to do anything for herself. Her husband says she is not conscious of her surroundings even though her eyes are open and she blinks.


story.schiavo.file.ap.jpg

Terri Schiavo gets a kiss from her mother, Mary Schindler, in this August 11, 2001, image taken from videotape.
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If that's the case then the decision should be her husbands. This is clear of who is the decision maker on someone's life...Spouse or Parents....yet though this may be a null statement...things like this should be discussed with families.

Like I said earlier I have told my family if something like this happens let me die. I don't want to be a burden on anyone....also...I have a DNR...DO NOT RECESSITATE (sp).
 
So..............To all of you that agree with all the court motions to keep her alive against what her husband said was HER WISHES.

If it happens to someone in YOUR FAMILY, (Husband, Wife, Son, Daughter), and people that have no idea what was discussed in YOUR FAMILY started butting in, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THEN.
 
No one knows her true wishes because they weren't written or recorded. that's the only way to know for sure. The only way to make sure your wishes are followed in this situation is to have a living will.

Also, this isn't the classic case where the person is brain dead with no outward signs of life.
 



It's amazing that you make this point because her parents don't what was discussed between her and her husband.


staggalee83 said:
So..............To all of you that agree with all the court motions to keep her alive against what her husband said was HER WISHES.

If it happens to someone in YOUR FAMILY, (Husband, Wife, Son, Daughter), and people that have no idea what was discussed in YOUR FAMILY started butting in, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THEN.
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JSU/99 said:
No one knows her true wishes because they weren't written or recorded. that's the only way to know for sure. The only way to make sure your wishes are followed in this situation is to have a living will.

Also, this isn't the classic case where the person is brain dead with no outward signs of life.
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How many people in this world express wishes to family member THAT THEY TRUST AND THEN WRITE THEM DOWN.

Husband and Wife?!?!
I know the LAW say different, but this was between HIM AND HIS WIFE.

How in the hell do Jeb Bush, The Florida House and the FED Government justify busting in on a PRIVATE FAMILY MATTER. :xeye:
 
staggalee83 said:
How many people in this world express wishes to family member THAT THEY TRUST AND THEN WRITE THEM DOWN.

Husband and Wife?!?!
I know the LAW say different, but this was between HIM AND HIS WIFE.

How in the hell do Jeb Bush, The Florida House and the FED Government justify busting in on a PRIVATE FAMILY MATTER. :xeye:
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People make living wills every day. Here's the thing, when it comes to a conflict like this, its not just between him and his wife. Like I said, if you want your wishes followed u need to have some sort of recorded evidence. If she was brain dead, this would've been decided long ago. But when you have a person with outward signs of life, it gets tricky. Without a living will, You can't expect the law to not step in during situations like this.
 
if i am not mistaken, if you have a spouse who is terminally ill or becomes incapacitated, you cannot divorce them. my mother has a frd who has M.S. and has been confined to a nursing home. she is now blind and unable to walk or even care for herself. before about 15 years ago, she was as normal as you and i. her husband moved on and tried to divorce her.....the judge ruled against him and he has to care for her until she dies.

in this case....they should not let the woman starve to death. if she was on a heart machine or something making her body function other than feeding her than i would say turn it off and put it in GODs hand. she will probably suffer for weeks until she would die and that is not right.
i also say allow the husband to divorce her and let the parents become her power of attorney. obviously he dosen't want her and if he is allowed to divorce her....all life insurance claims should become void.
 
dSWACizJSU said:
if i am not mistaken, if you have a spouse who is terminally ill or becomes incapacitated, you cannot divorce them. my mother has a frd who has M.S. and has been confined to a nursing home. she is now blind and unable to walk or even care for herself. before about 15 years ago, she was as normal as you and i. her husband moved on and tried to divorce her.....the judge ruled against him and he has to care for her until she dies.

in this case....they should not let the woman starve to death. if she was on a heart machine or something making her body function other than feeding her than i would say turn it off and put it in GODs hand. she will probably suffer for weeks until she would die and that is not right.
i also say allow the husband to divorce her and let the parents become her power of attorney. obviously he dosen't want her and if he is allowed to divorce her....all life insurance claims should become void.
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That sounds like the best solution.
 
I wouldn't want to live like that and I have made this very clear to my family. I don't think she would want to live in this state either just because her parents are not willing to let her go. I don't think that her husband is being cruel either because he has watched her for over fifteen years live in that lifeless body not functioning well enough for her to raise her hands. I think it is cruel what her parents are doing to her. If something like this happens to my daughter or son I hope and pray that I would not block my son-in-law from making a decision about her and my son is not married; so my daughter and I would more than likely have to make the decision for him. I am so happy that we have discussed this issue and this is very personal to us. But, like someone stated earlier, "A Living Will" would have squashed all of the hurt that her family is battling now.
 
dSWACizJSU said:
if i am not mistaken, if you have a spouse who is terminally ill or becomes incapacitated, you cannot divorce them. my mother has a frd who has M.S. and has been confined to a nursing home. she is now blind and unable to walk or even care for herself. before about 15 years ago, she was as normal as you and i. her husband moved on and tried to divorce her.....the judge ruled against him and he has to care for her until she dies.

in this case....they should not let the woman starve to death. if she was on a heart machine or something making her body function other than feeding her than i would say turn it off and put it in GODs hand. she will probably suffer for weeks until she would die and that is not right.
i also say allow the husband to divorce her and let the parents become her power of attorney. obviously he dosen't want her and if he is allowed to divorce her....all life insurance claims should become void.
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It was never about money for the husband, he was offered money to just walk away. He refused it.
 
GSU4LIFE said:
It was never about money for the husband, he was offered money to just walk away. He refused it.
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i never said that it was about the money because obviously he would have expired her himself a long time ago. my point is to let him divorce her, but if there are life insurance claims for her, they become void or used to pay her medical bills.
 
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