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J4J said:
How does this relate to that other scripture that is very popular now ....something like "Fear is not of God..."...Oh, I remember it now. God has not given us spirit of fear ...but of love and power and a sound mind..."

If I didn't quote it correctly, please correct me. Thanks!

The Bible has alot to say about fear. It mentions two specific types of fear. The first type is beneficial and is to be encouraged. The second type is a detrimental and is to be not only discouraged, but overcome.

The first type of fear is fear of the Lord.

Fear of the Lord brings with it many blessings and benefits.
In Psalm 111:10 it says, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do His commandments: his praise endureth for ever.” And in Proverbs 1:7 it says, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.” Thus we see how both wisdom and knowledge begin with fear of the Lord.

In Proverbs 19:23 it says, “The fear of the LORD tendeth to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.” And again in Proverbs 14:27, “The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.” And in Proverbs 14:26 it states, “In the fear of the LORD [s strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge.” In these verses we see that fear of the Lord provides life, security for your children, protection from evil, confidence, and satisfaction
Thus one can see how fear of the Lord should be encouraged.


the second type of fear mentioned in the Bible is not beneficial and should be not only discouraged but overcome. This is the “spirit of fear” mentioned in 2 Timothy 1:7 where it says, “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” Thus we see right from the beginning that this “spirit of fear” does not come from God.

However, sometimes we are afraid, sometimes this “spirit of fear” overcomes us, and to overcome this fear we need to trust in and love God completely. It says in 1 John 4:18, “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” However, no one is perfect, and God knows this. So He has liberally sprinkled encouragement against fear throughout the Bible. Beginning in the Book of Genesis and continuing throughout the Book of Revelations God tells us to “Fear not.”

For example it says in Isaiah 41:10, “Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.” And again in Daniel 10:12, “Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.” And in the New Testament Jesus says, Mat 10:31, “Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.” Just these few verses cover many different types of fear. God tells us not to be afraid of being alone, not to be afraid of being too weak, not to be afraid of not being heard, and not to be afraid for our physical necessities. And these “fear not” admonishments continue throughout the Bible covering the many different aspects of the “spirit of fear.”

However, these “fear nots” are dependent upon our ability to put our trust and faith in the Lord. In Psalm 56:11 the psalmist writes, “In God have I put my trust: I will not be afraid what man can do unto me.” This is an awesome testimony to the power of trusting in God. What the psalmist is saying is that regardless of what happens, he will trust in God. This is the key to overcoming fear - total and complete trust in God.

It is a refusal to give into fear. It is a turning to God even in the darkest times and trusting in God to make things right. This trust comes from knowing God and knowing that He is a good God who only wants to give His children good things. It is as Job said when he was experiencing some of the most difficult trials recorded in the Bible, “Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him (Job 13:15) .”

Once you have learned to put your trust in God you will no longer be afraid of the things that come against you. You will be like the psalmist and, “…let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee" (Psalm 5:11).
 



Tony: Thank you for that very thorough exegesis of the scriptures regarding fear. I appreciate your efforts and the way you explained it to me made it perfectly CLEAR to me of what type of fear is good and the type that we should war against by trusting in God. :tup:
 
Tony said:
The Bible has alot to say about fear. It mentions two specific types of fear. The first type is beneficial and is to be encouraged. The second type is a detrimental and is to be not only discouraged, but overcome.

The first type of fear is fear of the Lord.

Fear of the Lord brings with it many blessings and benefits.
In Psalm 111:10 it says, ?The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do His commandments: his praise endureth for ever.? And in Proverbs 1:7 it says, ?The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.? Thus we see how both wisdom and knowledge begin with fear of the Lord.

In Proverbs 19:23 it says, ?The fear of the LORD tendeth to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.? And again in Proverbs 14:27, ?The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.? And in Proverbs 14:26 it states, ?In the fear of the LORD [s strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge.? In these verses we see that fear of the Lord provides life, security for your children, protection from evil, confidence, and satisfaction
Thus one can see how fear of the Lord should be encouraged.


the second type of fear mentioned in the Bible is not beneficial and should be not only discouraged but overcome. This is the ?spirit of fear? mentioned in 2 Timothy 1:7 where it says, ?For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.? Thus we see right from the beginning that this ?spirit of fear? does not come from God.

However, sometimes we are afraid, sometimes this ?spirit of fear? overcomes us, and to overcome this fear we need to trust in and love God completely. It says in 1 John 4:18, ?There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.? However, no one is perfect, and God knows this. So He has liberally sprinkled encouragement against fear throughout the Bible. Beginning in the Book of Genesis and continuing throughout the Book of Revelations God tells us to ?Fear not.?

For example it says in Isaiah 41:10, ?Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.? And again in Daniel 10:12, ?Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.? And in the New Testament Jesus says, Mat 10:31, ?Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.? Just these few verses cover many different types of fear. God tells us not to be afraid of being alone, not to be afraid of being too weak, not to be afraid of not being heard, and not to be afraid for our physical necessities. And these ?fear not? admonishments continue throughout the Bible covering the many different aspects of the ?spirit of fear.?

However, these ?fear nots? are dependent upon our ability to put our trust and faith in the Lord. In Psalm 56:11 the psalmist writes, ?In God have I put my trust: I will not be afraid what man can do unto me.? This is an awesome testimony to the power of trusting in God. What the psalmist is saying is that regardless of what happens, he will trust in God. This is the key to overcoming fear - total and complete trust in God.

It is a refusal to give into fear. It is a turning to God even in the darkest times and trusting in God to make things right. This trust comes from knowing God and knowing that He is a good God who only wants to give His children good things. It is as Job said when he was experiencing some of the most difficult trials recorded in the Bible, ?Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him (Job 13:15) .?

Once you have learned to put your trust in God you will no longer be afraid of the things that come against you. You will be like the psalmist and, ??let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee" (Psalm 5:11).

Wow.
 
BY THE FEAR yir'ah {yir-aw'} OF THE LORD MEN DEPART FROM EVIL-Proverbs 16:6.

Yir'ah {yir-aw'} = fear (of God), respect, reverence, piety, awesome or terrifying thing (object causing fear)

By the "respect, reverence" of The LORD men depart from evil.


Do I fear or love you God?
"Wisdom and knowledge is the fear of the Lord"

Before you can do either, you first have to know [have a knowledge of] God. The fear of God comes from the knowledge of God, which is from knowing God.

In Exodus 19:17-19:

Exodus 20:18-20: "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning."

In God’s presence Israel was "terrified", but Moses explained that this was beneficial for them. God had revealed a small portion of His power to them so that the fear of God would be with them to keep them from sinning. When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They remained a distance and said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die."

Now that is "Godly" fear

The greater our knowledge of God equals a greater love [agape] will be for Him, and the greater our fear (awesome respect) of Him will be also. The fear of God leads to obedience of God, which gives us confidence in our heart before God.

Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. (1 John 3:21-22) Walking in the fear of the Lord causes us to walk in righteousness, experiencing the joy of a right relationship with our God. Be glad in the LORD and rejoice, you righteous; And shout for joy, all you upright in heart! (Psalms 32:11)
 
Sweets,

I have to ask. Who are you directing all of these questions to?...the board members or God? And who are you expecting to get all of these answers from?...the board members or God? And I have to ask, what are you doing (other than posting questions on this board) to get the answers to your questions?

Just asking.
 
G

We have been thinking along the same lines. IMO, it sounds like our brother is wrestling with God and he is trying to justify his actions. If this is the case Sweets ?give it up? and give in to God, you cannot win. If God is calling you to higher ?calling? you better go! Just like the Midas Commercial ?You can pay me now or pay me later? God is going to have his way. . The only answer to what?s ?keeping you awake at night? is the word!

Get up early one morning and take a walk with God and tell him what on your mind. You may be surprise how much better you will feel.
 
Dr H.. said:
G

We have been thinking along the same lines. IMO, it sounds like our brother is wrestling with God and he is trying to justify his actions. If this is the case Sweets ?give it up? and give in to God, you cannot win. If God is calling you to higher ?calling? you better go! Just like the Midas Commercial ?You can pay me now or pay me later? God is going to have his way. . The only answer to what?s ?keeping you awake at night? is the word!

Get up early one morning and take a walk with God and tell him what on your mind. You may be surprise how much better you will feel.

Enoch did that one day and did not come back... Be sure you are ready for greatest the walk of your life.
 
SAME OLD G said:
Sweets,

I have to ask. Who are you directing all of these questions to?...the board members or God? And who are you expecting to get all of these answers from?...the board members or God? And I have to ask, what are you doing (other than posting questions on this board) to get the answers to your questions?

Just asking.

I feel what I am doing is stimulating thought and aiding with my reading and studying of the Bible because quite honestly the responses that I am recieving are helping me, and I hope that when I ask one that someone will respond with a scripture or an experience. See religion is something like a Brain to me...we kinda know how it operates but do we really know?????

In short SOG...a few months ago something came over me to want to talk more freely about God and because you putting this page up...I have found some people who respond with some things that help me daily. I just hope others read it and find that strength as well. Often times God comes in the form of a person in your life. Furthermore, I came to conclusion to give God ALL of me, but in my relationship with God, I believe in, Seek and Ye Shall Find, Knock and the Door Shall Be Open Unto You.

The problem that I am seeing is that people feel I am fighting with God...not the case...I accept and love God not out of fear of not being next to God or fear of the devil, but because when I felt I was alone, God was holding my hand, when I thought I was walking God was carrying me, when I slept God was sheltering me...I simply offered to share my questions I ask God each day with fellow SWACPagers to aid me, and also for some other person that is fearful of asking because of fear of humilitation or being embarrased as many attempt to do to other on the SWACPage.
 
SAME OLD G said:
Sweets,

I have to ask. Who are you directing all of these questions to?...the board members or God? And who are you expecting to get all of these answers from?...the board members or God? And I have to ask, what are you doing (other than posting questions on this board) to get the answers to your questions?

Just asking.

By the way thanks for asking...most people don't have the moral courage to ask...they just assume for gossip's sake. My question today came late tonight...

Why is it that people assume what is wrong instead of simply asking? Then once they ecieve the answer and it's not the answer they want, it's considered wrong?
 
Are you ready to have your thread removed from being a "Sticky"?

I have been out sick and someone else removed it. I liked it at the top because some of the discussions have made me do some soul searching.
 
It?s not as simple as ?asking? Having been in the pulpit and teaching for years. I have learned [not you] hide behind ?What if questions?

Instead or saying ?I have a problem and I need help? people have a habit of placing themselves in the position of being the second or third person or as a co-worker or friend. As if a ?good preacher or teacher? cannot read between the lines.

In short people are embarrassed that they have a problem and it?s sad that we want to be perfect.
 
J4J said:
Are you ready to have your thread removed from being a "Sticky"?

I have been out sick and someone else removed it. I liked it at the top because some of the discussions have made me do some soul searching.

I did not want it moved but some people on here feel that some people are not as important so they want things moved to make room for others...I'm not mad...I will just make a post each day and if it's not a sticky it still will not stop me from posting or asking questions.

The different scriptures that fellow posters are providing are very helpful and the perosn who moved it may not see the importance of it, but someone does, and that's all that counts.

Now back to the thread....

Does my quest for understanding of God irritate others?
 



Dr H.. said:
[IF] anyone is upset with you for asking questions "need their heart examined"

It just seems that many times people often "question" why someone is doing or asking something...then the same person turns around and "answers" their own question...
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
I did not want it moved but some people on here feel that some people are not as important so they want things moved to make room for others...I'm not mad...I will just make a post each day and if it's not a sticky it still will not stop me from posting or asking questions.

The different scriptures that fellow posters are providing are very helpful and the perosn who moved it may not see the importance of it, but someone does, and that's all that counts.

Now back to the thread....

Does my quest for understanding of God irritate others?


Well long as Kenn does not toss me out of being a moderator here, it will and shall remain a Sticky thread because some of the questions are helping me. So remember this Sweet Nupe: "As I travel along the way, if my living can help somebody, then it shall not be in vain!"

The good part, to me, is that you ask honestly and openly and that you are reading and taking in what is good.


So to answer your question: "Does your asking questions irritate some here..."

My answer: I am sure it does. However, it has helped at least ONE, so to GOD be the glory. Take what is good and leave the rest. :)
 
J4J said:
Well long as Kenn does not toss me out of being a moderator here, it will and shall remain a Sticky thread because some of the questions are helping me.

No, I am not going to toss anyone out, but I think this is probably the ONLY board on this forum that stickys should not be allowed. I personally think that no one thread on this board should be considered any more important than the other.

Kema, the questions that Sweets is asking in his thread may be a help to you personally, but there are others on this board who are also looking for answers in the other threads, but that does not mean the thread needs to be a sticky.

We need to be careful with this. No one thread (on this board) should be considered more important than the other.

May God bless you all.
 
Kenn Rashad said:
No, I am not going to toss anyone out, but I think this is probably the ONLY board on this forum that stickys should not be allowed. I personally think that no one thread on this board should be considered any more important than the other.

Kema, the questions that Sweets is asking in his thread may be a help to you personally, but there are others on this board who are also looking for answers in the other threads, but that does not mean the thread needs to be a sticky.

We need to be careful with this. No one thread (on this board) should be considered more important than the other.

May God bless you all.

Kenn you my homeboy...you know I am not thin skinned. Heck if I was...I would have stopped posting years ago. I'm just happy that we have a forum that we can come to when we are stressed, bored, mad, sad, happy, and can't sleep at night.
 
Kenn Rashad said:
No, I am not going to toss anyone out, but I think this is probably the ONLY board on this forum that stickys should not be allowed. I personally think that no one thread on this board should be considered any more important than the other.

Kema, the questions that Sweets is asking in his thread may be a help to you personally, but there are others on this board who are also looking for answers in the other threads, but that does not mean the thread needs to be a sticky.

We need to be careful with this. No one thread (on this board) should be considered more important than the other.

May God bless you all.

I understand. I won't stick any threads here.
 
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