How come nobody else aside from the Irish in '88 has won the national title running that offense?
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How come nobody else aside from the Irish in '88 has won the national title running that offense?
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Because hardly anyone runs it...that doesn't mean a thing. Ask Georgia Southern how ineffective it was at the FCS level.
FBS > FCS
I bet another school had more RV's at theirs....... :swink:
Antroy
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The triple option has not and will not work in today's football era. The triple option is a grind it out offense system that is meant to keep the ball away from the opponent's offense. But, the downside to that is once the team running the triple option gets down two or three touchdowns, that offense is now a liability. You need a quick score to get back in the game and the triple option is not going to give you that unless the opponent's defense misses their assignments and gaps.
To be honest, during Alabama's last National Championship season, Georgia Southern had a better offensive output using that offense than any other team that played the Crimson Tide that season
Let's not forget what happened to Florida last season(regardless of the 4-8 record, they were still an SEC team)
number1
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I am pretty sure Alabama didn't exactly devote much time to stopping Georgia Southern during the season. Florida last season was basically at the level of Kentucky, most of the teams in FBS and half of the teams in FCS could have beaten them the way they were playing and being coached last season. I mean if that offense was so unstoppable, I am pretty sure we would have been seeing Georgia Southern winning all of the recent FCS titles instead of North Dakota State, Eastern Washington, etc..... I know they had a dominant run back in the 90s and early 2000s, but since then they have been pretty average, and that was on the FCS level. They are now stepping up to the FBS level.
number1
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And that is why Georgia has owned Georgia Tech in recent years.
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Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
Maybe becasue no one else runs it... that's what makes it so deadly. Teams are not ready for it.
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Grills at Jsu spring games > tech fans
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It's beyond smalltime to even schedule a spring game on Friday anyway.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
Half of ya'll have no clue what you are talking about. The triple option is an offense where you can score from 80 yards out or 8 yards out. If you have a good WR like Demarious Thomas, Stephen Hill, etc.. you will get MANY TDs becasue the WRs STAY open.
This is the problem with the triple option: YOU NEED TALENT TO RUN IT. In Georgia, you have everyone telling our potential WR candidates that they will only be run blocking... that's a LIE. Go watch the GT offense. There are many highlights on youtube.... People like you all on here keep feeding and telling lies about the triple option. If you are a GOOD WR, you WANT to be in the triple option offense. As a science and technology school who refuses to go against our principles to win a game, we already have enough going against us recruiting wise. Then when you get people who have no clue about the triple option constantly filtering lies about it, that hurts our case even more. Also, IF TEAMS GET 2-3 WEEKS TO PREP FOR IT, THEY CAN DEFEND IT. You know how mentally and physically worn teams get trying to defend that offense? I never want to see it leave Tech.
This is Georgia Tech's problem: Paul Johnson can't recruit. :smh: To never have a losing season with the talent he brings in is an amazing stat. Chan Gailey and George O'Leary could recruit. Did you all see what the triple option did when we had talent? We went to the Chick-fil-A bowl and the Orange Bowl. Imagine if Johnson had 4-5 years to cultivate that type of talent. The school had to step in to bring in some alums with some good recruiting experience to help bring some talent back to the flats. We have also lost a lot of people from our staff. Kennesaw State and GaSouthern HCs both came from Johnson staff and we have lost others as well to Florida State and other schools.
This is the problem with the triple option: YOU NEED TALENT TO RUN IT. In Georgia, you have everyone telling our potential WR candidates that they will only be run blocking... that's a LIE. Go watch the GT offense. There are many highlights on youtube.... People like you all on here keep feeding and telling lies about the triple option. If you are a GOOD WR, you WANT to be in the triple option offense. As a science and technology school who refuses to go against our principles to win a game, we already have enough going against us recruiting wise. Then when you get people who have no clue about the triple option constantly filtering lies about it, that hurts our case even more. Also, IF TEAMS GET 2-3 WEEKS TO PREP FOR IT, THEY CAN DEFEND IT. You know how mentally and physically worn teams get trying to defend that offense? I never want to see it leave Tech.
This is Georgia Tech's problem: Paul Johnson can't recruit. :smh: To never have a losing season with the talent he brings in is an amazing stat. Chan Gailey and George O'Leary could recruit. Did you all see what the triple option did when we had talent? We went to the Chick-fil-A bowl and the Orange Bowl. Imagine if Johnson had 4-5 years to cultivate that type of talent. The school had to step in to bring in some alums with some good recruiting experience to help bring some talent back to the flats. We have also lost a lot of people from our staff. Kennesaw State and GaSouthern HCs both came from Johnson staff and we have lost others as well to Florida State and other schools.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
Yep, they own us but for a school who gets first pick at the Georgia talent and sells their soul for football, they can only manage THREE blowouts over a Tech school in 10 years... Every other game has been decided by a TD or less.
November 27, 2004 Athens, GA Georgia 19–13
November 26, 2005 Atlanta, GA Georgia 14–7
November 25, 2006 Athens, GA Georgia 15–12
November 24, 2007 Atlanta, GA Georgia 31–17 (blowout)
November 29, 2008 Athens, GA Georgia Tech 45–42
November 28, 2009 Atlanta, GA Georgia 30–24
November 27, 2010 Athens, GA Georgia 42–34
November 26, 2011 Atlanta, GA Georgia 31–17 (blowout)
November 24, 2012 Athens, GA Georgia 42–10 (blowout)
November 30, 2013 Atlanta, GA Georgia 41–342OT
In_The_662
Deeeeep In The Delta.....
You are right for the most part.
It probably won't work in the Big 5/6 conferences but it can/has worked for the service academies (that's how Johnson got at Tech being successful with it at Navy) because they can't get the 3-5 star athletes. I think it could also work at the lower levels. I want to see if Georgia Southern keeps it now that they are FBS. What Tech and the other FBS schools need who run that offense to win big time is a Cam Newton/Jameis Winston/Nick Marshall type who are accurate enough down field to make a defense respect the pass but big enough to take the pounding for a season running 200-300 rushes a season
It's not that Paul Johnson can't recruit. It's that how many elite QBs, WRs and TEs do you expect are gonna want to play in an offense like that?
It's just like Boeheim using the zone with all those blue chip recruits he gets every year. Makes no sense.
number1
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Blowouts or not, 9 out of 10 is dominant in my eyes. Most of the time it appears that Georgia completely shut down the GT offense save for 2008, 2010, and 2013( Georgia full of injuries).
number1
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Kind of like how Urban Meyer struggled to get elite RBs to commit to UF because all the competition kept harping on how the offense is focused on the QB and the RB won't get a lot of touches.
Georgia Southern is only a season or two removed from taking NDSU to the wire in the FCS Semifinals...it took everything NDSU had to knock them off
Also, when GSU's decline began, they had abandoned the Triple Option under Hatcher
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JROCK
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I like that fact that GA. Southern will be in the Sunbelt. It's really where they belong in terms of formidable competition (on their level) on a consistent basis. Those boys in S. Georgia play football. The below list will give them a challenge:
Sun Belt
Arkansas St.
Georgia St. (maybe in the future)
Louisiana-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
South Alabama
Texas St.
Troy (AL)
Western Kentucky
These are a pool of good non conference games:
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Middle Tennessee St.
North Texas
North Dakota State
Sam Houston
Sun Belt
Arkansas St.
Georgia St. (maybe in the future)
Louisiana-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
South Alabama
Texas St.
Troy (AL)
Western Kentucky
These are a pool of good non conference games:
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Middle Tennessee St.
North Texas
North Dakota State
Sam Houston
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Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
But see, there you go. I don't see why WRs, TEs and elite QBs would not want to play in that system. Those are the things that make the system work. It's just that lately, we have not had good WR-QB combos. Even tho I mentied Steven Hill earlier, he missed most of the passes throw his way and most times he was wide open. A better WR would have made those 7 wins seasons 9 win seasons. If you are a WR at Tech, you will get a LOT of press and a LOT of TDs but that is not what people promote. Everyone suggests that the triple option ONLY runs. If we had two legit WRs on each side, the offense would be unstoppable.
I totally agree. This month I accidentally saw part of a spring game (when I drove past a stadium) for the first time since the early '80s.
Georgia Southern completed no passes against Florida.
Georgia has owned Georgia Tech mainly because of talent. It has really been like that for the last 50 years, and I do not see things changing anytime soon. I think that Mark Richt has had a better recruiting strategy than Vince Dooley did. Dooley mainly filled recruiting needs while passing on some very good players that could have helped Georgia. Richt will fill the needs but will also go after the best players available more so than Dooley did.
Whenever GT has a chance to beat UGA like last season, they need to do it or else wait a few years.
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Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
I can see that but if you look at the roster and you don't see a GREAT RB, you should be happy to be in that system. At Tech, we NEED WRs and we have sent WRs to the league in THAT offense. I think that is what Johnson needs to let them see. If he can show them how Thomas and Hill were used in that system, they should be excited.
...you get a 1000 yard receiver in a "run-based" offense, you should be excited about that becasue YOU would be the featured receiver. Granted, we don't need a roster full of WRs but the ones we have should be eager to get on the field.
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