Cubs' Baker stands by comments


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Cubs' Baker stands by comments
July 7, 2003





CHICAGO -- Cubs manager Dusty Baker didn't back down Monday when asked about his recent comments that black and Latin players were better suited to play in the heat than white players.

"I meant what I said. . . . I try to be as honest as possible, and if that's how I feel, then that's how I feel." he told reporters before Monday's game, a 6-3 win by the Cubs over Florida.

On Saturday, in another pregame talk with reporters, Baker said: "We were brought over here for the heat. Isn't that history? Your skin color is more conducive to heat than it is to the lighter-skinned people. I don't see brothers running around burnt."

Those comments have since prompted debate on radio shows and in newspaper columns across the country.

"It doesn't really matter to me because that's what I said. I'm not going to take it back," Baker said. "What I said to you guys is what I said to my team. I told my other teammates this a long time ago, too. When we talk about how hot it is, I told them that's why my ancestors were brought over here, for that reason, and that's history.

"My mother was a black-American history teacher in Sacramento," he said. ". . . A lot of people don't know history, that's what it sounds like to me. If they take it as reverse racism . . . then they can take it wherever they want to take it."

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I don't blame him, what is the world coming to that we let other people tell us we're commiting reverse racism against ourselves?

:rolleyes:

I can understand self hatred, but reverse racism against another black person,give me a freakin break, and the crazy thing is theres people out there(black people) buying this load of bullisht.
 



Originally posted by JaguarNationAJL
...Baker said: "We were brought over here for the heat. Isn't that history? Your skin color is more conducive to heat than it is to the lighter-skinned people. I don't see brothers running around burnt."...

Being a Chicagoan and Cubs fan is coincidental, Dusty continues to use his platform for social consciousness...APPLAUSE!
 
Re: Re: Cubs' Baker stands by comments

Originally posted by Ralph
Being a Chicagoan and Cubs fan is coincidental, Dusty continues to use his platform for social consciousness...APPLAUSE!

Social consciousness because he's talking about blacks being able to endure heat better :confused:

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Originally posted by JaguarNationAJL
...Baker said: "We were brought over here for the heat. Isn't that history? Your skin color is more conducive to heat than it is to the lighter-skinned people. I don't see brothers running around burnt."...
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give me a break.

Toi' please send help, this fool's driving me crazy. :smh: :smh: :smh:
 
He might not be the spokesperson for social consciousness, but he makes up for it by sounding exceptionally uninformed when speaking ...

:xeye:
 
I do think that Baker could have chosen his words more carefully. I do not think that he is totally correct. I would not have said what he said. However, there is some truth to what he said. For one thing there is a reason why some people have developed melanin.

Note that the first servants in what is now the U.S. were White indentured servants. But the first slaves in the western hemisphere were the native peoples. However, they suffered from the diseases that the Europeans had and could not do all of the work. Eventually the Africans were brought over because they did not die out from the diseases. Yes, they could take the heat.

I would not have said what he said. But it is not like he made a slur, and there is some truth to what he said. I will not lose any sleep over it.
 
I'm glad that he stuck by his comments, it shows the media that he cannot be pushed around. By the way, some of those comments were right. Due the melon (excuse the spelling) in the skin, darker skinned people can withstand heat a little bit better.
 
Would it have been ok for Scotty Bowman to say that "whites can handle the cold better, so they're better hockey players"?

BTW, I hate hockey, just trying to think of an analogy.

Those that said Dusty was only speaking positively of blacks and not negatively of whites, this is a close comparison I believe....
 
Bluedog,

I don't blame him, what is the world coming to that we let other people tell us we're commiting reverse racism against ourselves?



I can understand self hatred, but reverse racism against another black person,give me a freakin break, and the crazy thing is theres people out there(black people) buying this load of bullisht.

True, So very true!
 
His statement was totally inaccurate and foolish. The colour of your skin has NOTHING to do with whether you are more susceptical to a stroke, which is what is meant by enduring heat. Note, he said HEAT and not SUN. Melanin is to protect from sun, not heat. All humans suffer from heat stroke to the same capacity, but some don't burn as easily as others. You can get a sunburn in the middle of winter, but you won't get a heat stroke.

For people who claim that there are biological differences between races, I would recommend reading The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould, among other things. An issue of "Skeptic" magazine from a couple of years back dealt specifically with race in sports because there was a book out that contended that Blacks and whites have different biological reasons that determined what they would be good at athletically(ie sprinting versus throwing, etc). Mike Shermer, I recall, had an excellent article to refute many of the points of the article. The late Dr. Gould also had much to say.

The bottom line is that science tells us that there is NOT a biological difference between the races.

Now, with all of that said, I applaud Dusty Baker for standing by what he said. If he feels that way and believes it, then stand by it. I'm sick of people recanting who they are when they don't mean it.
 
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