Cop Killer Beat Beyond Recognition

[staggalee83]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yep ............I know.
EVERYBODY has been beatdown by the police. That's the excuse.

Look, I know there are bad cops, but I get sick of hearing excuses for GARBAGE like this.

When the COPS mess up ...................bring their arse down.

When one of US mess up ....................quit making excuses.

The only thing missing out this mix is Rev Al and Rev. Jessie.

 

[chocalate_topaz]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yep ............I know.
EVERYBODY has been beatdown by the police. That's the excuse.

Look, I know there are bad cops, but I get sick of hearing excuses for GARBAGE like this.

When the COPS mess up ...................bring their arse down.

When one of US mess up ....................quit making excuses.

The only thing missing out this mix is Rev Al and Rev. Jessie.

Actually, not an excuse but confirmed fact. So we are now left with a situation where both sides are at fault and we find fault in everyone's view of each side. Conundrum, eh?

 

[C.O.G.]

And I as I stated before.

NORTHSIDE St. LOUIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am MAN, men make choices. This young brother obviously made the WRONG ones.

You made the comment for folx that "supported" ole boy. I dont support what he did, I support that everyone deserves to atleast see the judge and get sentence before getting their @ZZES kicked in.
D@mn, I guess since you black and a black man is the suspect of a murder in your neighborhood the cops should kick your AZZ then ask questions later. (whether you did it or not, or if you were a good kid or not).
Is that right?

Unless you are caught in the act, there is too much doubt. This should go to the courts. Look at the innocent persons who might have been found guilty... those like Robert Blake, Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, Kobe Bryant ant OJ Simpson

 

[C.O.G.]

Maybe the cop was already beating him and there was a struggle then the gun went off killing the cop. They didn't say anyone else witnessed the shooting, did they?

You speak sarcastically I do suppose.
If that sarcastic scenero is true, I have to eat all my words. WHAT IF THAT IS TRUE? Not far-fetched.

 

[SONNY]

:lol: at Robert Blake being innocent.

 

[Justin]

Uhhhh, it's seems to me like some of you high an mighty, educated negroes done forgot the way cops would whip black men, women and childrens ARSES for no dayum reason! :lecture:

Wasn't too long ago, that a black man or his family, had better not get caught driving at night thru some of these rural towns down south. Black people were getting murder, lynched, castrated and burned to death at the hands of MR. GOOD AND NICE POLICE OFFICER! LLEH, Rodney King didn't murder a cop, but the got his ARSE beat down at the hands of several cops! Abner Luema (sp), in New York City, didn't kill no cops, but they handcuffed his ARSE down in a restroom and shoved broken broom stick up his ARSE!

So don't go crying for no dayum cop, these MO-FO's been getting away with murder for years! :kaioken:

I have to agree with this one.

 

[Robber]

It just amazes me how many of you just "blindly" take the version put forward by the police. I guess y'all really believe his eyes got like that from the fall from jumping out the window, huh??? The cops say that's what happened.

And save the "excuses" responses. The difference between y'all and me is I'm not ready to take a side one way or the other, because I don't know what happened.

 

[Vinita]

I just kind of wonder where this boy's mama's outrage was when he was acting an ass as a kid, because ain't no way in HELL he just woke up one morning doing the crazy isht of which he has been accused.

I feel sympathy for neither him nor his family. If his ass had been somewhere reading a damned BOOK, he'd have not been in the police station to begin with. Fugg him and his mama.

 

[staggalee83]

Robber .......................... :idea:

EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THOSE COPS WHIPPED HIS ARSE! :nod:

The point most people are trying to make here is IN THIS CASE, NOBODY GIVES A DANG BECAUSE THEY KNOW HE KILLED A COP WITH HIS OWN GUN.

 

[D-NICE]

It just amazes me how many of you just "blindly" take the version put forward by the police. I guess y'all really believe his eyes got like that from the fall from jumping out the window, huh??? The cops say that's what happened.

And save the "excuses" responses. The difference between y'all and me is I'm not ready to take a side one way or the other, because I don't know what happened.

Co-sign that Robber, and J4L.

Nobody is asking why this boy killed the cop? Being from a drug infested, warzone, I can attest that some of these cops are overzealous in their interrogations, and who's to say this cop wasn't beating the schit out of the boy trying to get a confession from him.

What the hell was he doing wearing a gun in an interrogation room with a suspect that wasn't handcuffed? Obviously the cop had to be awfully close to this boy that he was able to get to the cops gun.

I don't condone the murder of anyone, and this is a subject I know a lot of, but at the same token nothing else was in that report to say the otherwise. Now I can believe the kid got hurt jumping out of a window, but to have his face phugged up like that, didn't come from a jump out of a window, and if y'all believe that, then y'all are truly blinded.

Who's to say the cop that got killed, didn't beat that boys face in like it was puddy, and the facial injuries came before he jumped out of the window?

As TruBluJag elluded to, why are we so quick to come to the police departments aid in this instance, when we know the history of cops, and black folk? All we know is this boy killed a cop, but don't know why, but if I had to take a guess, he got tired of getting his arse beat, while an overzealous cop tried to get a confession, and the boy defended himself?

I feel sorry for all the families involved in this, the elderly lady, the dead cop, and the kid, but in no way am I going to defend a young man getting his arse whipped because he killed a cop, and we don't know why the boy killed the cop?

To kill a cop just because you're accused of a crime just doesn't make much sense to me, because people get off on murders all the time, but a kid killing a cop in self defense makes a helluva lot of sense.

From some of you peoples comments y'all are worse than those cops that beat this kid, because like them, y'all are judge, jury, and executioner. If this was as cut, and dry as the cops make it out to be, then this kids should be tried, weighed, and given the death penalty, or life in jail, but.........nevermind......I just hope that none of you, or your families are in this situation.

NICE

 

[chocalate_topaz]

I couldn't have said it better DNice.

 

[BNGguy]

For the past few days, I've been reading posts on this subject and I have a lot of mixed feelings on this issue. I've been very adamant against brute force that the police use on people period. We as black people have been exposed and will continue to endure this until the end of existence because of the simple fact that we bring it upon ourselves. Yes, I know that innocent people and those that have some sort of guilt have taken unnecessary beat downs but as long as there's the corrupt minds going against the corrupt minds with authority, police brutality will continue to exist in our community. Now I'm not stupid and I'm not going to sit back and say that the kid took a fall to have those injuries come across his head and face like that. If he did, he fell on a lot of fists, batons and kicks. I wasn't there from the time of the killing of the cop to the time when he was caught but I would be foolish to assume something without having proof of what took place. Ask yourself this ? If it was a family member of yours that was murdered by this kid or any other person, what would your first thoughts be in response to the sadness you'd feel? In many instances anger and with anger comes the thought of doing the same thing he or she did if they were not caught by the police. If I'm wrong, then someone who lost a loved one to murder needs to honestly tell me that they didn't think along those lines. I've had personal experience with this same situation and it's not easy to keep a stable mind.

My other take is that it's time that we start taking accountability of actions without pointing out blame on others. I see it everyday in OUR community with the belligerency that spews from the babies having babies generation. We have so many kids running wild that don't want or desire an education and the upbringing lacks sustenance. I don't have kids of my own but I love kids. I try to make a difference by talking and trying to devote a little bit of my time with the kids that live in my neighborhood that I know needs a sense of direction but it's going to take more than me to do it. I certainly cannot do it alone. But if that was my child in Houston and I know that I tried my best beyond best to bring him up right and he strayed away to do wrong, I'd be upset but as my parents told me, if you make your bed hard, you gonna have to lie in it.

 

[CEE DOG]

Dnice I respect your opinion, being from a war zone myself you know as well as I know that these lil shorties out here have no morals. They will pull that trigger on who ever. I know 10 and 11year olds who carry pistols and will pop you if they get the call to do so. I am in know way condoning whipping a innocent brother, but these low lives who keep robbing and stealing from the hard working people in the hood has got to go. 9 times out of 10 if this dude gets off he will pull the trigger again. It?s a cycle that seems to never stop. I remember the days of having to look out your front door and on the side of the house to make sure you aren?t going to get stuck up walking out your own front door, or bullets flying all night long because Ray Ray and big Pookie got into it. Helicopters flying all night long with the police spot lights coming thru your window every other night. I know there are bad cops out there; I have seen them rob hustlers on a first hand base. If these young cats stop hustling and get a job then they want have to worry about the police.The drug war is nowhere as bad as it was during the late 80?s early 90?s. There weren?t a lot of choices for young youth then as it is today. There is way more opportunities to help inner city kids today, but no one will take advantage of it. Most of these lil wannabes are suburb brats who grew up with a silver spoon in their mouths and they are pampered.

 

[SONNY]

Nicely said DNICE.

 

[D-NICE]

Dnice I respect your opinion, being from a war zone myself you know as well as I know that these lil shorties out here have no morals. They will pull that trigger on who ever. I know 10 and 11year olds who carry pistols and will pop you if they get the call to do so. I am in know way condoning whipping a innocent brother, but these low lives who keep robbing and stealing from the hard working people in the hood has got to go. 9 times out of 10 if this dude gets off he will pull the trigger again. It?s a cycle that seems to never stop. I remember the days of having to look out your front door and on the side of the house to make sure you aren?t going to get stuck up walking out your own front door, or bullets flying all night long because Ray Ray and big Pookie got into it. Helicopters flying all night long with the police spot lights coming thru your window every other night. I know there are bad cops out there; I have seen them rob hustlers on a first hand base. If these young cats stop hustling and get a job then they want have to worry about the police.The drug war is nowhere as bad as it was during the late 80?s early 90?s. There weren?t a lot of choices for young youth then as it is today. There is way more opportunities to help inner city kids today, but no one will take advantage of it. Most of these lil wannabes are suburb brats who grew up with a silver spoon in their mouths and they are pampered.

Cee, I feel ya bruh, and believe me I know how ruthless some of these shorties are, I had several friends in my youth that fit the bill, but in this instance, I'm just holding judgement until all the facts come out. Everything you said I can relate to, and again if it went down like the cops said it did, I hope this kid gets exactly what's coming to him, especially if he stabbed that old lady.

In a case like this, where the police are so tight lipped about everything that happened, something just doesn't add up. I mean look at the kid's face, man ain't no way in hell a fall caused that. I mean to phugg up his face like that, dayum near break his leg, and arm, and still manage to run a few blocks. It just doesn't jive with me.

That cop have to had done something to provoke that, ain't no way that kid was going to jump across the table, take that cops gun from him, and shoot him. If that was the case, that had to be dumbest cop this side of Barney Fife, and Roscoe P. Coltrane.

NICE

 

[SONNY]

Cee, I feel ya bruh, and believe me I know how ruthless some of these shorties are, I had several friends in my youth that fit the bill, but in this instance, I'm just holding judgement until all the facts come out. Everything you said I can relate to, and again if it went down like the cops said it did, I hope this kid gets exactly what's coming to him, especially if he stabbed that old lady.

In a case like this, where the police are so tight lipped about everything that happened, something just doesn't add up. I mean look at the kid's face, man ain't no way in hell a fall caused that. I mean to phugg up his face like that, dayum near break his leg, and arm, and still manage to run a few blocks. It just doesn't jive with me.

That cop have to had done something to provoke that, ain't no way that kid was going to jump across the table, take that cops gun from him, and shoot him. If that was the case, that had to be dumbest cop this side of Barney Fife, and Roscoe P. Coltrane.

NICE

:bowdown:
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

Aint no way a fall out a wind is gonna do all that too him. A broke leg or arm maybe, but not all those KNOTS on his head and FACE. That look like some Billyclub and Foot action.

 

[C.O.G.]

Nicely said DNICE.

Yes. and I have to agree with your possibilities. I agreed that I will hold off until More details are published.
Bur, D-Nice, the probability is exactly what we all assume and it that is the case I hae not sympathy for the kid.
Read Vinita's entry.

 

[C.O.G.]

Cee, I feel ya bruh, and believe me I know how ruthless some of these shorties are, I had several friends in my youth that fit the bill, but in this instance, I'm just holding judgement until all the facts come out. Everything you said I can relate to, and again if it went down like the cops said it did, I hope this kid gets exactly what's coming to him, especially if he stabbed that old lady.

In a case like this, where the police are so tight lipped about everything that happened, something just doesn't add up. I mean look at the kid's face, man ain't no way in hell a fall caused that. I mean to phugg up his face like that, dayum near break his leg, and arm, and still manage to run a few blocks. It just doesn't jive with me.

(This I will believe until proven wrong: The kid killed the cop escaped and got his butt kicked for killing a cop)

That cop have to had done something to provoke that, (No he did not.)ain't no way that kid was going to jump across the table, take that cops gun from him, and shoot him. (why not?) If that was the case, that had to be dumbest cop this side of Barney Fife, and Roscoe P. Coltrane.

NICE

 

[D-NICE]

Lion, I read Nita's entry, as well as others, but we still don't know exactly what happened to provoke the kid into killing that cop. All we know is he was a suspect in a murder. That means he was suspected of killing an elderly lady, no more, no less.

On the flip side of things, I'm sure we all know that no matter how you raise a kid, that kid is ultimately going to do what they want to. How many families do you know that out of mulitple siblings in the house, 4 turn out to be decent, upstanding contributors to society, and then there's the 1 that's completely out of control? You mean to tell me, the 1 kid didn't recieve the same love, and guidance the other 4 recieved?

I'm not naive, I know in some instances the parents are trifling, and then they want blame society when their kids end of phugged up, I don't dispute that at all, but in this case, we know very little. There's no love like a mothers, and no matter what the kid does, she will still love him, and defend him. This mother could've been a good parent, and the kid went astray.

So for me to not have sympathy for all the families involved would be wrong. I just hate to see such harsh comments, with very little to go on other than the kid killed the cop, so he deserved to get phugged up.

If it was proven that he killed that elderly lady, and the killing of the cop was unjust, then he should be prosecuted to fullest extent of the law, even if it meant death, but to not feel for any of his family...........

Just stop to think if this kid is innocent of killing that old lady, and took a beatdown for just happening to fit the profile, then what? Do we call in Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Kweisi Mfume, and Tom Joyner?

NICE

 

[C.O.G.]

Lion, I read Nita's entry, as well as others, but we still don't know exactly what happened to provoke the kid into killing that cop. All we know is he was a suspect in a murder. That means he was suspected of killing an elderly lady, no more, no less.

On the flip side of things, I'm sure we all know that no matter how you raise a kid, that kid is ultimately going to do what they want to. How many families do you know that out of mulitple siblings in the house, 4 turn out to be decent, upstanding contributors to society, and then there's the 1 that's completely out of control? You mean to tell me, the 1 kid didn't recieve the same love, and guidance the other 4 recieved?

I'm not naive, I know in some instances the parents are trifling, and then they want blame society when their kids end of phugged up, I don't dispute that at all, but in this case, we know very little. There's no love like a mothers, and no matter what the kid does, she will still love him, and defend him. This mother could've been a good parent, and the kid went astray.

So for me to not have sympathy for all the families involved would be wrong. I just hate to see such harsh comments, with very little to go on other than the kid killed the cop, so he deserved to get phugged up.

If it was proven that he killed that elderly lady, and the killing of the cop was unjust, then he should be prosecuted to fullest extent of the law, even if it meant death, but to not feel for any of his family...........

Just stop to think if this kid is innocent of killing that old lady, and took a beatdown for just happening to fit the profile, then what? Do we call in Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Kweisi Mfume, and Tom Joyner?

NICE

As much as I agree with your opposers, your last paragraph causes me to pause. He may not have even been the right suspect for stabbing the lady.
That does not change my BELIEF that he is the right guy.
Homeboy, what you said is true but consider this. Whereas before a family may raised 10 and one was a bad seed, now a family raises 10 and they are all bad seed. That is the way WE are raising our children now.

Remember those 13 year olds who were pregnant 13 to 17 years ago? Those children have raised children who are 13 to 17 years old. What do you think those children have been taught?
Our black male youth are druggies, robbers, murderers, gang-bangers with foul mouthed. We kill for no reason. Sorry but that is true. I know there are exceptions.

 

[D-NICE]

Remember those 13 year olds who were pregnant 13 to 17 years ago? Those children have raised children who are 13 to 17 years old. What do you think those children have been taught?
Our black male youth are druggies, robbers, murderers, gang-bangers with foul mouthed. We kill for no reason. Sorry but that is true. I know there are exceptions.

Lion, I don't dispute any of that at all, like I said to CEE DOG, I know how ignorant, and ruthless some of these kids are, and I am well aware of some of the poor parenting that's the norm these days, but it still doesn't change my perception of the police department, and the lies they tell, and the stories they spin.

I've seen more wrong from them, than right, and I've been unjustly harassed by them as a kid, teen, and adult, so pardon me if I'm not so quick to take the departments story.

Just look at the kids face, if he'd jumped out the window as they said he did, and he did that much damage to his face from jumping, my brother he would be dead. That would mean he'd have to have hit the ground head/face first from 3 stories up. Then to get up from hitting the ground head/face first, and run 3 blocks???????????

It's just my belief that this is not as cut, and dry as it seems, and until the facts come out, I don't believe what that police department is saying about all that happened in this issue.

NICE

 

[Dr. Sweet NUPE]

Lion, I don't dispute any of that at all, like I said to CEE DOG, I know how ignorant, and ruthless some of these kids are, and I am well aware of some of the poor parenting that's the norm these days, but it still doesn't change my perception of the police department, and the lies they tell, and the stories they spin.

I've seen more wrong from them, than right, and I've been unjustly harassed by them as a kid, teen, and adult, so pardon me if I'm not so quick to take the departments story.

Just look at the kids face, if he'd jumped out the window as they said he did, and he did that much damage to his face from jumping, my brother he would be dead. That would mean he'd have to have hit the ground head/face first from 3 stories up. Then to get up from hitting the ground head/face first, and run 3 blocks???????????

It's just my belief that this is not as cut, and dry as it seems, and until the facts come out, I don't believe what that police department is saying about all that happened in this issue.

NICE

D-Nice...they whooped this kids ARSE!!!! I am not disputing that...what I am saying is the kid deserved it. I'm getting tired of walking down the street at night having to look over my shoulder or carrying my gun just in case some fool wants to raise up. Criminals need to get their ARSE beat; especiailly if you are witnessed doing it.

This kid shot and killled a 27 year veteran of the police force. that means this guy was dayum near about to retire. Then attempted to escape from police interrogation. He deserved every punch he recieved. I say when he heals...beat his ARSE again.

By the way this is an OZIO's night for me!!!!

 

[JSU/99]

I just kind of wonder where this boy's mama's outrage was when he was acting an ass as a kid, because ain't no way in HELL he just woke up one morning doing the crazy isht of which he has been accused.

I feel sympathy for neither him nor his family. If his ass had been somewhere reading a damned BOOK, he'd have not been in the police station to begin with. Fugg him and his mama.

This is where i have to disagree yet again. This is the standard company line whenever someone acts up - where was his mama when he was growing up. Just like you have kids with no parental supervision whatsoever that grow up to be productive citizens, you also have kids who good parents who grow up to be fools. You can't just say all of this comes down to bad parenting even though that's the easiest explanation. Its much more complex than that.

And regardless of what he did or what his parents didn't do when he was younger, that still doesn't change the issue here. Its illegal for the cops to beat any person like that, regardless of what he did. The laws are there to protect the worst of society just as much as they're there to protect the best. It is that cut and dry. Do I sympathize with this young man? Assuming he's guilty then no I don't. But that doesn't mean what happened to him was right. I didn't sympathize with Timothy McViegh when he was executed a couple of years ago. But I still believe the death penalty is wrong.

 

[JSU/99]

D-Nice...they whooped this kids ARSE!!!! I am not disputing that...what I am saying is the kid deserved it. I'm getting tired of walking down the street at night having to look over my shoulder or carrying my gun just in case some fool wants to raise up. Criminals need to get their ARSE beat; especiailly if you are witnessed doing it.

I'm just trying to understand, so help me out here:

What type of crime requires an arse-whooping?

Are we talking about all crimes or just certain ones?

Is the length and severity of the beating determined by the actual crime itself, or do we just let the cops play it by ear?

If a cop beats a criminal to death, is that justifiable as well?

If the person beaten turns out to be innocent, do we punish the cops who beat him?

 

[Dr. Sweet NUPE]

I'm just trying to understand, so help me out here:

What type of crime requires an arse-whooping?

Are we talking about all crimes or just certain ones?

Is the length and severity of the beating determined by the actual crime itself, or do we just let the cops play it by ear?

If a cop beats a criminal to death, is that justifiable as well?

If the person beaten turns out to be innocent, do we punish the cops who beat him?

25 Lashings with a cane pole should be good. You remember that American kid that got caned in the Phillipeans (sp) you haven't heard about him acting bad have you.

I hate criminals...it used to be that you didn't need car alarms, etc...now we got low jacks...next we going have alarms and low jacks on kids. All because people like to still and harm people.