Big Bang Theory...PLEASE DON'T MOVE THIS THREAD


Dr. Sweet NUPE

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Moderators please do not move this thread. I posted it here to get the opinions of the religous sect.
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/03/16/cosmic.inflation.ap/index.html

The big bang's 'smoking gun'

AP) -- By the faint cosmic glow of the oldest known light, physicists say they have found evidence that the universe grew to astounding proportions in less than the blink of an eye.

In that trillionth of a second after the big bang, the universe expanded from the size of a marble to a volume larger than all of observable space through a process known as inflation. At the same time, the seeds were planted for the formation of stars, galaxies, planets and every other object in the universe.

"It's giving us our first clues about how inflation took place," said Michael Turner, assistant director for mathematics and physical sciences at the National Science Foundation. "This is absolutely amazing."

Researchers found this long-sought "smoking gun" evidence by looking at the cosmic microwave background, the oldest light in the universe. The light was produced when the universe was about 300,000 years old -- a long time ago, but still hundreds of millennia after inflation had done its work.

Even so, the pattern of light in the cosmic microwave background offers clues about what came before it, just as a fossil tells a paleontologist about long-extinct life. Of special interest to physicists are subtle brightness variations that give images of the microwave background a lumpy appearance.

Physicists presented new measurements of those variations during a news conference Thursday at Princeton University. The measurements were made by a spaceborne instrument called the Wilkinson Microwave Anistropy Probe, or WMAP, launched by NASA in 2001.

"It amazes me that we can say anything at all about what transpired in the first trillionth of a second of the universe," said Charles Bennett, a Johns Hopkins University physicist who presented the research along with Lyman Page and David Spergel, both of Princeton.

Earlier studies of WMAP data have determined that the universe is 13.7 billion years old, give or take a few hundred thousand years. They have also measured variations in the cosmic microwave background so huge that they stretch across the entire sky. Those earlier observations are strong indicators of inflation, but no smoking gun, said Turner, who was not involved in the research. They represent tiny inhomogeneities -- dense spots in the superhot primordial soup that was the universe in the first stages of inflation -- blown up to hundreds of light-years in size by the subsequent expansion of the universe.

The new analysis was able to characterize variations in the microwave background over smaller patches of sky -- only billions of light-years across compared to hundreds of billions. Due to some weird aspects of quantum physics, those smaller lumps popped into existence during the middle and end of the inflationary process as tiny subatomic particles.

Then they would have expanded with the space they occupied to become of today's stars and galaxies. Slightly denser than their surroundings, they would have pulled additional material in by gravity, building up into the massive galaxies and superclusters observable today.

"Galaxies are nothing but quantum mechanics writ large across the sky," said Brian Greene, a Columbia University physicist.

The measurements are scheduled to be published in a future issue of the Astrophysical Journal.
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Does this dispute God?
 



cat daddy said:
I'm sure when God said let there be light, there was a bang{/b] of sorts.


This is true. Very True. I'm just wondering when and if evolution will be brought in to research like this, because quite frankly I have a feeling that this is where it's leading to.
 
Tony said:
Nope,

If I create something, & then reveal to you how I created it, how does this dispute myself?

So if there are other life forms then where does that place man. I hate to bring movies into this but Religion was discussed on one of the Star Trek movies, and the statement made was something like this, earth put aside all of our difference when life from other planets contacted us, this set off a dessimation of what was known as Religion. I think it was in Star Trek first contact.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
So if there are other life forms then where does that place man. I hate to bring movies into this but Religion was discussed on one of the Star Trek movies, and the statement made was something like this, earth put aside all of our difference when life from other planets contacted us, this set off a dessimation of what was known as Religion. I think it was in Star Trek first contact.
I don?t know about Star trek, but I know the Bible, and it says;

Our God is the God of all worlds.
It says that man is a little lower than the angels
It says Let ?us? make man
& It also talks about the ?Wheel inside of a Wheel?
 
Tony said:
I don?t know about Star trek, but I know the Bible, and it says;

Our God is the God of all worlds.
It says that man is a little lower than the angels
It says Let ?us? make man
& It also talks about the ?Wheel inside of a Wheel?

I was using Star Trek as just a furturistic view...as someone who is always thinking I wonder many times what will be of the world after I am long gone.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
..as someone who is always thinking I wonder many times what will be of the world after I am long gone.


That's easy, just read Revelations & you'll know.
 
By the faint cosmic glow of the oldest known light, physicists say they have found evidence that the universe grew to astounding proportions in less than the blink of an eye.

This is funny:

The word firmament, in Genesis 1:6-8 is raqiya`{raw-kee'-ah}
meaning expanse or to expand, stretch, make broad. (Hiphil) to make a spreading (of clouds). Thus the universe coninues to "firmament or expand", exactly as God commanded.
 
Dr H.. said:
This is funny:

The word firmament, in Genesis 1:6-8 is raqiya`{raw-kee'-ah}
meaning expanse or to expand, stretch, make broad. (Hiphil) to make a spreading (of clouds). Thus the universe coninues to "firmament or expand", exactly as God commanded.

Ok this is why I like this forum because it opens so much thought. If this is the case then why is there so much nervousness about beings from other planets.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
Ok this is why I like this forum because it opens so much thought. If this is the case then why is there so much nervousness about beings from other countries.

"beings from other countries" :confused:

explain please
 



Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
LOL...I corrected it...crossing employment with personal life...lol...O corrected it.
The Bible does not say if there is life on other planets. It simply says that God created the heavens and earth and put man on it. But this silence on the subject does not require that earth is the only place with life on it. But then again, this doesn't mean there is life out there, either.
 
Tony said:
The Bible does not say if there is life on other planets. It simply says that God created the heavens and earth and put man on it. But this silence on the subject does not require that earth is the only place with life on it. But then again, this doesn't mean there is life out there, either.

I think there lies the confusion.
 
Celestial [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another. 1 Cor. 15:40

Personally, I believe there is other forms of live or beings out there somewhere. I think the problem is, they may not exist in the same realm or dimension as we do. Neither does God, the angles or Satan, but they all exist. Then one would have to explain Eze. 1:15 and Chapter 10, what did Ezekiel see. This was not his imagination. What about the story of Abraham and the three visitors?

According to Hebrews

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Hebrews 1:14

We have ministering spirits or angles watching and taking care of us, we cannot see them "but they are there" Why, they exist in a different dimension and can co-exist in two different dimensions.

Does the existence of other beings have anything to do with our salvation? That?s a good question?
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
As I stated earlier...there lies the confusion.
I understand what you're saying, but this shouldn?t just be some academic or mental exercise.
The objective here is to praise God & make it into heaven.
Right?

Now with that in Mind, How would the existence of Aliens/extra terrestrial beings effect your soul salvation?
 
Tony said:
I understand what you're saying, but this shouldn?t just be some academic or mental exercise.
The objective here is to praise God & make it into heaven.
Right?

Now with that in Mind, How would the existence of Aliens/extra terrestrial beings effect your soul salvation?

I never stated that is did....YOU STATED that it did. I never mentioned that it affected my soul, only that there lies the confusion.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
I never stated that is did....YOU STATED that it did. I never mentioned that it affected my soul, only that there lies the confusion.

I never stated that, Anyway
What is this "confusion" you keep talking about :confused:
 
Tony said:
I never stated that, Anyway
What is this "confusion" you keep talking about :confused:

The confusion is not with me it's with other believers...there are Christians who will not accept what you just said....for instance this belief that the author had about a marble...then it exploding....God said let there be light...right. Some Christians will not take this or accept it....that is what I feel the confusion lies.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
The confusion is not with me it's with other believers...there are Christians who will not accept what you just said....for instance this belief that the author had about a marble...then it exploding....God said let there be light...right. Some Christians will not take this or accept it....that is what I feel the confusion lies.

IF they are Christians, then they believe God created everything. Right?

Now HOW He created it (evolution, a marble, etc) is kinda irrelevant.
 
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