Benny Hinn


nevaehinvesting

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I went to work yesterday and my co-worker (who knows I'm a Christian) said he saw a NBC Dateline special about Benny Hinn Sunday night. He was dogging Benny saying that he was a fake and fraud because the tv show showed his big house and nice cars.

What do y'all think about people like Benny who go around the world 'healing' in Jesus name? My friend from India said Benny is popular over there because a lot of known cripples actually started walking and known blind people received sight miraculously.

What do y'all think?
 
Fraud, those people work for Hinn.

Now I am wondering, why he was almost killed in Viet Nam about seven or eight years ago. He was there "healing" there were several local citizens that were injured during the war. They sold everything they had and took the money and gave to "his" ministry. However, when they were on stage, Hinn could not heal them, not as much as a simple deformed leg or someone suffering from the after effects of Agent Orange.


He was in Nashville, about eight years ago, Gaylord Entertainment Center was full with folks looking for miracles. An X girlfriend was recovering from a brain tumor as a result of her operation. Her doctors put her on some medications that caused the ?lining? in her hip joints to deteriorate. She trucked down to the GEC hoping and praying for a miracle. After Hinn prayed for the cripple and lame she returned to her apartment in the same condition.

He was on TV talking about miracles and how God blessed him with the ability to heal. He was challenged to go to any of the local hospitals and heal anyone that was sick. He was specifically challenged to go to Vanderbilt?s Children Hospital to heal some of the children with cancer. He was challenged to go to MeHarry Hospital to heal some that was suffering with Sickle Cell Anemia; of course he was a no show.

How come he ?heals? illness that no one can validate -
 



I watched Benny Hinn one night. He waved his hand across the entire front row and they all "passed out" or something. Man...he's better than Robert DeNiro. He should be nominated for an Academy Award. He's good.
 
docmump said:
Let God answer this question. I dont question it.


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never really just sat down and watched Hinn. I've seen him on TV and really kept going. But I did catch that Dateline segment on him.

Some would put Hinn in the same catergory as the other famous evangelists. And to that: I listen to the Word, take from it what I wish or what I feel will benefit my spiritual life, keep going and continue to seek God for MYSELF.

If Hinn and others are doing foul work, God will take care of them in due season. It's not for me to worry over or judge on.
 
As I read the bible, I see people calling Jesus a fake everywhere He went.

Those calling Him 'fake' did not have any proof to support their accusations, but they still judged Him, especially the church folk.

In regards to healing, some people were healed by Jesus, & some weren't healed by Jesus. That had a lot to do with the persons' faith looking for the healing. Jesus even said He couldn't do great miracles in His hometown because of their lack of faith. That tells me that where there is faith in Jesus, He can perform miracles of healing. He did it in person back then, He does it through people today.

Some people of course, don't believe stuff like that happens anymore. But remember, there is no such thing as "the day of miracles" but rather "the GOD of miracles". Same today as back then.

My point is, offering our opinions is fine, but who can prove if Benny & others like him are fake? Someone may say, "my friend went to a Benny Hinn conference and he/she didn't get healed!" :redhot: But that can be said of people who came in contact with Jesus back in the bible days. Jesus wasn't the problem then. Who's to say Benny or others is now? For every person that spoke 1 negative word about Jesus there's maybe 10 that spoke highly of Him. For every person that speaks bad about Hinn there may be 5 that say they got healed.

Do we really believe that God can do anything, and when He works through someone to do anything we say it's fake? Just thgouhts.

Who can post proof?
 
I don't have proof, but I just honestly believe Hinn is fake as well as a lot of other magic powers evangalist out there. If I am wrong, so be it.

I honestly believe in today's time, our following God is based on faith and good works and not by who can speak jibberish no one understands or who can receive super powers to heal the sick. I don't think this is by accident, but by design.
 
I honestly believe in today's time, our following God is based on faith and good works and not by who can speak jibberish no one understands or who can receive super powers to heal the sick. I don't think this is by accident, but by design.
The good thing about you being a Christian is that you don't have to use your own thinking on a lot of issues because God has told us what mind set to have, His.

Do you think that God stopped doing the miracles through people today, that He used to do through people back in the bible days? If so, why?

1. Like letting His people talk to Him in an unknown tongue? (jibberish as you put it)

2. And like letting His people do miraculous things in Jesus name? (display super powers as you put it)

Read your bible. Tongues & miracles are real, and easy to understand, if read/study your bible.

Question: What if Benny Hinn or whoever walked across a room and everybody who his shadow touched was instantly healed of a sickness? You'd probably say, "that's not real! he's a fake. That can't really happen." But that tells me one of two things...

1. You have never read Acts 5:15 or the other scriptures displaying superpowers, or miraculous signs.

2. Or, you believe that God did that stuff back then, but is not willing to do it now.

Which is fine. You believe what you believe. But remember to try and base your belief off of studied scripture, and not your own opinion. Otherwise, you'll continue to make judgmental comments like this:
I don't have proof, but I just honestly believe Hinn is fake as well as a lot of other magic powers evangalist out there.
 
All I know is that in the last days,...false prophets shall come in The Lord's Name. I can't see myself living like a movie star when there are people that God has me to serve living in a financally poor state.
Those lay over trips are just rediculous!!!!
He do not agree with my spirit. His fruit is strange to me. There are indeed some gifts that God gives us that are without repentance.
In the end ,....God will seperate the just from the unjust.
 
Legend35 said:
I can't see myself living like a movie star when there are people that God has me to serve living in a financally poor state.
In the end ,....God will seperate the just from the unjust.
I agree with this. Not saying that I would live poor, but I would be trying to help alot of people out of their financial problems. Not saying that he's not doing that already.

Nev, you are dead on the money.
 
Legend35 said:
I can't see myself living like a movie star when there are people that God has me to serve living in a financally poor state.
Those lay over trips are just rediculous!!!!


That's so much easier said than done, especially if you've never been exposed to that lifestyle.
I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth, but I bet that if I got a taste of that lifestyle (WITHOUT it being at the expense of taking money from people), I'm sure it be something that would not be so easily to let go of.

We can point fingers and look down at Hinn and other famous and wealthy evangelists all day, but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes or the full extent what issues they deal with living in that spotlight.
By no means am I supporting Hinn, because if he's doing dirt, he WILL pay. My point is looking at it from more than one way.
 
Question (s)

What was the purpose of "healing, miracles" in the first century Church?

The miraculous gifts are listed in Paul's letter to the Corinthians Church.

"For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith in the same Spirit; and to another, gifts of healings, in the one Spirit; and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discerning of spirits; and to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues. . . dividing to each one severally even as he will" (1 Cor. 12:8-11). These gifts relate specifically to the infant church when it did not have the completed revelation of God as we have today.

There was a special need at that particular time that does not exist in the church today. The gifts were to confirm the word (Hebrews 2:1-4). They helped the church grow and keep out false teachers (Eph. 4:11-15).


The gospel preached by the apostles was oral. They didn't have a New Testament like we have today. It was being written by the disciples and apostles. Therefore, the apostles had these gifts and could bestow them on others to confirm the spoken word. "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great a salvation? which having at the first been spoken through the Lord, was con- firmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing witness with them both by signs and wonders, and by manifold powers and by gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to his own will" (Heb. 2:3-4).

Then Pauls said:

There is a more excellent way" (1 Cor. 12:31), and he points to the way of love in the 13th chapter. As Paul is instructed by the Holy Spirit, he states:

"Love never faileth: but whether there be

1. prophecies, they shall be done away;
2. whether there be tongues, {glossa {gloce-sah'} they shall cease;
3. whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away.

For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part [prophecies, tongues, knowledge]shall be done away" (1 Cor. 13:8-9).

Since the bible teach that an Apostle had to "Lay hands" to pass on the power to heal - I would like to know what Apostle laid hands on Hinn and others.

Note: This passage does not refer to the second coming of Christ. The grammar alone will not allow it. Why? "Paul uses a neuter article and substantive (an adjective used as a noun). Another way this could be translated - 'the perfect thing.' Jesus , however, is spoken of not as a thing but as a person. He, is consistently referred to in masculine terms. Jesus would therefore be a 'he who', not a 'that which.

To me this is simple and proves that Hinn and others that say they lay on hands and heal are fakes:

Let me enlighten those that beleive Hinn and others have the power to heal. I hate to burst your bubble or sour your sugar stick.

Do you know Satan have certain ?God allowed? powers and he is able to "mirror miracles" rather deceive individuals. However, there is a difference in the miracles of Satan and Jesus. The miracles of Jesus were done in order to show that He is God and He is in control of everything; but Satan's miracles, the Bible says, are always done in order to deceive.
Satan's miracles are always a mirror image of God's miracles. A mirror image reveals two things. First, it is exactly the opposite of the real miracle. Second, it is a reflection of the real miracle.

Mankind has to look past the real image to see the image in the mirror. We must see the authentic miracles of Christ and Apostles, and then look past their miracles, in order to see Satan's miracles. If we look at the miracles of Satan without first looking at the miracles of Jesus, we will probably be deceived into thinking Satan's miracles are genuine. He will always use something in order to reflect a true miracle, just as the mirror is not the real image, but a reflection of something that is real.

Gen. 3:1 says the first Satanic miracle was demon possession.

The serpent, willingly allowing Satan to possess his body, mouthed Satan's words, "Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" It is actually Satan who deceived Adam's wife not the serpent.

In Exodus Satan again produced mirror images of the miracles of God
Moses, acting on the power of God, actually turned a rod into a serpent. Ex. 7:11,12. "Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments . For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods." Note the mirror image of Satan's miracles. The wise men, the sorcerers, and the magicians were not of God. They were of the devil, and were using the devil's tools to produce miracles. Satan's false prophets are doing the same thing today.

Read: that the magicians cast down their rods, just as Aaron cast down his rod, which became a serpent. Notice also that Aaron's rod swallowed up their rod. God will always have the victory over Satan.

Exodus 7:21,22 - Moses held up his rod over the water to turn the water to blood. The magicians of Egypt also turned water to blood, not with their words, but with their enchantments.

In Exodus 8:18,19 Moses and Aaron brought forth lice upon the earth by the power of God, but Satan could not. Therefore, there is a limit to the power of Satan, but not to the power of God.

There are millions of people who don't understand what is going on and are being deceived by Satan, through individuals like Hinn.

In, First Timothy 4:1-3 record the steps Satan uses to bring people under his religious system. "Now the spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;..." This Scripture plainly teaches that the first step in departing from the faith is giving heed to seducing spirits by listening to Satan's false ministers. The second step is when the doctrines taught by these false ministers are accepted and the plain teaching of Scriptures is "thrown out the window."

The teachings of the God?s word are simple and easy to understand.
 



In other words Hinn and other that claim that they can speak in tongues, miracles .....etc. Are teaching false doctrine, because they are false teachers under the control of satanic powers and there are individulas following them because they understand the bible or take God at his word.

I continue to say there is a difference between reading and studying {original language} God's word.
 
Dr H.. said:
In other words Hinn and other that claim that they can speak in tongues, miracles .....etc. Are teaching false doctrine, because they are false teachers under the control of satanic powers and there are individulas following them because they understand the bible or take God at his word.

I continue to say there is a difference between reading and studying {original language} God's word.
Dr. H, do you believe in speaking in tongues and healing people through the Holy Spirit?
 
Dr H.. said:
In other words Hinn and other that claim that they can speak in tongues, miracles .....etc. Are teaching false doctrine, because they are false teachers under the control of satanic powers and there are individulas following them because they understand the bible or take God at his word.

I continue to say there is a difference between reading and studying {original language} God's word.


Ohhh Ok! If you say so. Thanks.
 
nevaehinvesting said:
As I read the bible, I see people calling Jesus a fake everywhere He went.

Those calling Him 'fake' did not have any proof to support their accusations, but they still judged Him, especially the church folk.

In regards to healing, some people were healed by Jesus, & some weren't healed by Jesus. That had a lot to do with the persons' faith looking for the healing. Jesus even said He couldn't do great miracles in His hometown because of their lack of faith. That tells me that where there is faith in Jesus, He can perform miracles of healing. He did it in person back then, He does it through people today.

Some people of course, don't believe stuff like that happens anymore. But remember, there is no such thing as "the day of miracles" but rather "the GOD of miracles". Same today as back then.

My point is, offering our opinions is fine, but who can prove if Benny & others like him are fake? Someone may say, "my friend went to a Benny Hinn conference and he/she didn't get healed!" :redhot: But that can be said of people who came in contact with Jesus back in the bible days. Jesus wasn't the problem then. Who's to say Benny or others is now? For every person that spoke 1 negative word about Jesus there's maybe 10 that spoke highly of Him. For every person that speaks bad about Hinn there may be 5 that say they got healed.

Do we really believe that God can do anything, and when He works through someone to do anything we say it's fake? Just thgouhts.

Who can post proof?


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Legend35 said:
All I know is that in the last days,...false prophets shall come in The Lord's Name. I can't see myself living like a movie star when there are people that God has me to serve living in a financally poor state.
Those lay over trips are just rediculous!!!!
He do not agree with my spirit. His fruit is strange to me. There are indeed some gifts that God gives us that are without repentance.
In the end ,....God will seperate the just from the unjust.


I can certainly see myself living that way for several reasons:

#1 JESUS SAID, "the poor will be with you ALWAYS....." Matt. 26:11
#2 The Bible SAID, "If a man does not work, he does not eat..." 2 Thess 3:10
#3 If I can live that life, then I can help someone else because I have the means
#4 "give a man a fish and he can eat today; but teach him to fish and he eat for a lifetime...."
#5 If I worked hard to give to whatever level I am at (to keep myself from sleeping on the streets, the next man do it too...I'd be happy to show him how I did it so that HE may gleen a way to do the same for himself and THEN pass it on so the next man can do it for himself too
#6 EVERY CUP has to sit on its on bottom!
 
I could have 20 cars, 10 houses, 50 million dollars in the bank and STILL be generous beyond measure....If I give half of that $50 million to the poor guess what...I'M STILL RICH!!!

Guess what else....no matter how much I give...People would STILL say I am living too lavishly!!
 
It kills me how some points in these discussions are never addressed and comments continue to be made with no regard to some of the things that have been stated.
 
BLAQUE PRINCE said:
It kills me how some points in these discussions are never addressed and comments continue to be made with no regard to some of the things that have been stated.


Explain your point, please.
 
CriTAUcal said:
Explain your point, please.

There are sometimes almost multiple discussions going on in one thread because some points are ignored as if the poster does not believe what has been stated. The discussions sometimes do not have a common ground.

For instance Dr. H posted information disputing the idea of modern day miracles but the conversation about Benny being judged will probably continue as if that point was not brought up. If we are going to say that you cannot judge Benny's miracle working then you would first have to refute the idea that there are no modern day miracles to show that Benny is not a fake by default.

I don't mean to actualy go into the above discussion but I notice this happening on other threads and just wanted to point it out. Sometimes the discussions don't have a common ground.
 
BLAQUE PRINCE said:
There are sometimes almost multiple discussions going on in one thread because some points are ignored as if the poster does not believe what has been stated. The discussions sometimes do not have a common ground.

For instance Dr. H posted information disputing the idea of modern day miracles but the conversation about Benny being judged will probably continue as if that point was not brought up. If we are going to say that you cannot judge Benny's miracle working then you would first have to refute the idea that there are no modern day miracles to show that Benny is not a fake by default.

I don't mean to actualy go into the above discussion but I notice this happening on other threads and just wanted to point it out. Sometimes the discussions don't have a common ground.
BP, nice observation. But I enjoy that even when we do deviate from the topic that we still continue to discuss instead of arguing. Most people that I know usely start out discussing and then ends up arguing or just mad at another person.
 
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