Bayou Classic Move


If New Orleans lowers hotel prices it won't be by much, and if you think Houston will continue to offer those discounted hotel rates, then think again.

Truth be told, New Orleans isn't the only city that takes advantage of Black dollars. Hell, just look what nearby Galveston, TX does to the kids going their for the Kappa Beach Party. If it's still called that.

Atlanta, took the Freaknik dollars, and ran kids around the freeway, for 2 days.

The Houston people will see after 2 years, exactly how much it costs to maintain, and clean a hotel for a big weekend such as the BC.

They will see the mess a room with 5-8 people can make in 2 days, they will see how many towels, and soap will be used, and called for.

They will see how much money they have to spend on security for that weekend, because of all the parties going on, the weed smoke, the rapes, the stuck elevators, and people being in the hallways around the clock.

Trust me people when they take into account for everything that goes into maintaining a hotel up to standards, they will see how expensive that weekend will become for them. Especially now, with security being threatened in every aspect of our lives, don't count on those cheap rooms, no more than the short term contract years.

NICE
 
Hey guys here is a little something about the future of the Bayou Classic. This information comes from the SU's Digest Online.


CONTRACT UP
Superdome contract to end as State Farm Bayou Classic game between Southern U., Grambling State gets bids from Houston, Orlando

by Gary Holloway
November 16, 2001


For 26 years New Orleans has been the home of the State Farm Bayou Classic. However, the contract with the New Orleans Superdome is over after this year, and the game is in danger of leaving the city.

Currently in its 28th year, the State Farm Bayou Classic has developed from a football game to a weekend packed with festivities for Southern University and Grambling State University fans.

Every year over 70,000 fans make their way to New Orleans Thanksgiving weekend to attend what has become a national attraction between two historically black colleges and universities.

According to Ralph Slaughter, chairman of the Bayou Classic committee and vice president of the Southern University System, offers have been made by cities such as Houston and Orlando to host the Bayou Classic.

"We have had some discussions and received several proposals from cities that have been interested in holding the Classic in their city. We also have received concerns from fans, students and alumni about the high cost of rooms in New Orleans," said Slaughter.

In the Houston proposal there was a guarantee that no room would exceed $150 per weekend. Also offered at a cost of $35,000 is the use of Reliant Stadium, which will be the home to the NFL?s newest team, the Houston Texans.

Orlando has offered very competitive rates with Houston and far less than what fans are paying in New Orleans. Orlando also has the advantage of offering family entertainment with Walt Disney World, who has expressed interest in becoming a sponsor for the Bayou Classic.

The city of New Orleans has until November 30 to respond with a package of its own, and a decision on the future whereabouts of the Bayou Classic is expected to be announced by the end of the year.

"Our concern is that we have two Louisiana schools who participate in the game and we have to make sure Louisiana has first priority to the game," said Slaughter. "Currently we are evaluating all packages and waiting to see if the city of New Orleans and the Superdome can come up with a competitive package."

Slaughter also stated that both schools would like to keep the game in New Orleans but admits that they cannot ignore the impact of the packages being offered.

"They are forcing us to look at these offers. They are taking our fans and students for granted, said Slaughter.

The only downside to moving the game out of New Orleans is losing the tradition of not having the game played in the home state of the two teams playing the game.

"I don?t think the city of New Orleans will let that happen, I?m optimistic that they will step up to the plate," said Slaughter.
 



compare the soon-to-be-built Reliant Stadium and the Superdome. This stadium will host the Big 12 Championship and the Super Bowl. It is state of the art and easily the jewel of the deal. The Saints don't even want to play in the Superdome.

Nothing wrong with a little bit of luxury.

Bet you the SWAC Championship comes here also

P.S. You can still name it the Bayou Classic because we do have bayous in Houston.

If the deal goes through, what makes you think investors won't open something in anticipation of the event?
 
Another article:

New home in store for Classic?


By JOE SCHIEFELBEIN
Advocate sportswriter

Could the Bayou Classic be moving to Houston, which calls itself the Bayou City?

Officials from both Grambling and Southern said they have received a substantial offer from Houston and have given New Orleans ? home to the game for 28 years ? until the end of the month to make a counteroffer.

"It?s an attractive enough package that nobody could look the other way," said Ralph Slaughter, Southern University system vice president and Bayou Classic coordinator.

"The schools would like to have the game in Louisiana, but we?d like to see a little respect out of New Orleans and the hotel community."

The current 10-year contract with the Louisiana Superdome expires Saturday with Bayou Classic XVIII, when No. 8 Grambling (8-1, 5-1 Southwestern Athletic Conference) plays Southern (7-3, 5-1) at 1 p.m.

Slaughter said the two schools have been talking with officials from Houston for about six to eight months. He said New Orleans has until Nov. 30 to submit its bid. Slaughter said the schools had already given New Orleans an extension from the end of October.

"There?s been some movement, just not where we need to be yet," Slaughter said. "I think some have misinterpreted the fact that two Louisiana schools would never move out of the state. That?s a serious misunderstanding."

New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial estimated the game?s impact as "in the range of $50 million in direct and indirect spending."

Morial later said no one had specifically addressed the issue to him but that he?d be willing to work on a resolution.

The schools want two things. First, more money. Second, better hotel rates for fans.

"We give them a Super Bowl every year," Slaughter said. "For something that brings that kind of impact, we need to get some kind of consideration."

Last year?s game drew 72,000. And a Bayou Classic official news release said this year?s game is expected to draw 200,000 to the city.

Morial said the New Orleans tourism industry used to be stagnant on Thanskgiving weekend, but the Bayou Classic changed that scenario.

"I think the mayor made it clear today how much the city makes. This city used to be a ghost town before the Classic," said Grambling coach Doug Williams, who played in the first Bayou Classic in 1974. "It?s time for the universities to get some of that money.

"I can (see the game in Houston). I?m honest. I think the bottom line is numbers. I won?t even say (what each school brings in), because I think it?s embarrassing when you think of the money being brought into the city."

Each school gets at least $1 million from the game.

The two teams split the ticket sales, after expenses. That total is estimated by Southern Athletic Director Floyd Kerr to be a profit of $600,000-700,000 per school. They also share in revenue from buying television time, then selling commercials, projecting, in 1999, that take to be $100,000 per school.

In addition, the schools split the $500,000 State Farm gives to be the title sponsor as well as revenue from other corporate sponsors.

"(The two schools) are in this thing together," said Kerr, who said he?s not involved in the negotiations, which are handled by Slaughter. "For the two institutions, it?s of paramount importance that we do the right thing."

Slaughter said Houston will help with the two key sticking points: expenses and hotel rooms.

From stadium rental alone, the schools could stand to gain a substantial boost when they split the gate.

Slaughter said renting the Superdome and related costs total around $350,000. He said the schools could secure Houston?s 69,500-seat Reliant Stadium, a retractable-roof venue which opens next season, for $35,000.

More pressing to fans are the hotel rates. Fans have complained for years about hotel rates in New Orleans.

Slaughter said some of the problem has been caused by the 10-year contract which did not have any clauses for hotel rates.

"The hotels kind of went wild," Slaughter said. "It?s outrageous. "Rooms range from $150 to almost $300. ... We made a determination that whatever the contract that a hotel-rate structure has to be a part of the package."

Slaughter said Houston officials have agreed to cap rates at $125.

"It?s a partnership and has to be amicable for all, or we?ll have to start thinking about something else," Kerr said.

"It?s in our best interest to be here, to be home. To talk about leaving is not comfortable. This is a very complex issue. There are a lot of people with a lot at stake."

Black-college football fans are used to playing Classics in faraway cities, even conference games. For instance, Grambling and Prairie View play the State Fair Classic every year in Dallas and Southern and Alabama A&M will play a conference game in Indianapolis? Circle City Classic next season.

Even so, severing emotional ties with New Orleans will be hard to do.

"To a coach, it?s just a ballgame," Southern coach Pete Richardson. "To the people, you realize in a hurry it means more than that. The heart and soul of Grambling and Southern is the Bayou Classic."

Southern has 26 players on its roster from New Orleans. Many of them went to the game as children and dreamed of playing in the game.

Williams said the schools, who rely on the Bayou Classic to help fund much of their athletic programs, should leave emotions out of a business decision.

"Yes, I?d favor (moving the Bayou Classic to Houston). In a heartbeat," Williams said.

"We have to survive, too. We don?t get 91,000 every game like LSU does. We have take the payday we can take that will benefit the universities the most.

"New Orleans is a great place for the game. But New Orleans has to come with a proposal. Houston has one on the table."
 
Originally posted by cat daddy
So Blue are you suggesting that Houston will guarantee us the 2,000,000.00 the state of LA should be giving the schools???I don't think so.
no i agree with you that they probably won't ....but what they have guaranteed is that no hotel stay for the weekend would be over $175 more monies going too both school and oh yeah we can rent their brand new reliant stadium for a hefty $35,000.
We only reant the LA. superdome for a mere $350,000.

will somebody take it out and put it back in with some grease next time
:confused: :confused:
 
It seems as if this is a lose-lose situation. If the BC stays in New Orleans, there's a chance of the high hotel prices.

If the BC moves out of the state, the same extra money spent on high hotel prices will be spent on extra travel.
 
Originally posted by roadblock-2-spr97
If the BC moves out of the state, the same extra money spent on high hotel prices will be spent on extra travel.

Especially for both schools current student body. Houston may be convenient for alumni but what about the current students.
 
Originally posted by roadblock-2-spr97
It seems as if this is a lose-lose situation. If the BC stays in New Orleans, there's a chance of the high hotel prices.

If the BC moves out of the state, the same extra money spent on high hotel prices will be spent on extra travel.

Well...If I'm not mistaken, Grambling is closer to Houston than it is to New Orleans, so that's money saved.

Houston isn't a far move at all. You can drive from Baton Rouge to Houston on a 1/2 tank of gas.

As far flying goes...Houston has two major airports and it's cheap to fly out of.

MUCH much cheaper hotels

The Richmond Strip...

The most important thing of all is the R-E-S-P-E-C-T that is being shown by Houston. It's a damn shame how we aren't shown any love by "Our own" (fellow Louisianans)...I bet they(NO hotels) are saying..."They ain't giong no where".


My opinion is that if Houston has this offer on the table, and New Orleans does NOTHING to change the current situation...then...I say we Haul Arse for two years and show our worth.
 
Gram is not closer to Houston than NO.

Yes you can get to Houston on a tank of gas, but with the game in NO, those of us in BR don't have to stay in a hotel. If those of us that live in BR would just drive to the game and not rent hotels, that will get the attn. of the NO hotels because WE are a large portion of the people renting rooms. With empty rooms, NO Hotels will have to lower prices to get people back into the rooms.
 
Originally posted by SUperJag96


Well...If I'm not mistaken, Grambling is closer to Houston than it is to New Orleans, so that's money saved.

Houston isn't a far move at all. You can drive from Baton Rouge to Houston on a 1/2 tank of gas.



Gram is definitely a lot further from Houston.
Please tell me what kind of car you have that goes from BR to Houston on a 1/2 tank of gas. Next time I go I'm riding with you. 'Cause I went there in my lil car two weekends ago and it takes me at least 3/4 a tank.;) ;) ;) ;)

Note:
They go from Gram through Miss. to get to New Orleans. That makes it quicker than going through Alexandria and BR to get to New Orleans.
 
Let's roll.... The sponsors and NBC are on board with us no matter where we go. Going to Houston keep a touch of Bayou in the "Bayou Classic". Now to the fans, you have to still come even though it isn't in New Orleans. The last thing we need is to move the game and you treat it like Election Day and stay home. The power of the move is to go somewhere else and the game attendence remains the same (sold out). That means even if you aren't having a good year, SHOW UP!. We finally have people in place with .... to move it if we aren't heard. Don't sell them out. Show some Black Power for a change. We should only be talking about moving for 1 to 2 years. That should be long enough for NO's to realize we aren't playing and to reliaze we are running back to them for them to make a killing off us without benefiting.

PEACE!!!
 
Interesting Spin on the BC in NO

http://www.wafb.com/global/Frameset.asp?P=/default.asp

November 20, 2001
New Orleans Fighting to Keep Bayou Classic


Even as Southern and Grambling fans pack for the annual trip to New Orleans, New Orleans is furiously defending the Bayou Classic holding its games in the Crescent City. High-level talks continue even as many fans say they'd welcome a change of venue because of hotel prices. Some fans, including State Senator Cleo Fields, say for the past few years, hotels there have been raising rates and placing outrageous restrictions on visitors to the annual football match up. "The owners or whatever are just outrageous with prices on hotels", says Fields.

The Hyatt in New Orleans quotes a rate of $165 a night for the Bayou Classic with a two night minimum stay and no refund after November 9th. For another high demand even, Mardi Gras, the Hyatt asks for $200 a night, no minimum stay and offers a refund if you cancel 72 hours in advance. The New Orleans Hilton offers a Bayou Classic rate of $219 a night, no minimum stay and a refund if you cancel 72 hours in advance. Similar can be said for Mardi Gras with the same restrictions and a nightly rate of $269. The Sheraton in New Orleans offers rooms at $168 a night with no refund and no minimum stay for the Bayou Classic, but raises that rate to $289 with a three night minimum stay and no refund. And, finally, the Westin has a Bayou Classic rate of $159 a night, but you must prepay by October 9th and you can't get a refund if you cancel. For Mardi Gras, that rate jumps to $369 a night and you must prepay by December 27th and you can't get a refund.

Fields says the hotels shouldn't compare the Bayou Classic to Mardi Gras. "For the hotel and motel owner, and for the people of new Orleans to say we'll put this in the category of Mardi Gras, it's ludicrous, you gotta compare apples to apples." The rates for next year may not even matter because the contract to keep the Bayou Classic in the Superdome expires after Saturday?s game. WAFB 9News made several phone calls to Ralph Slaughter at Southern university. He's the person there in charge of organizing the Bayou Classic. He refused to meet with us and as of this time he has yet to return any of my calls.
 
A friend of mine in Baton Rouge told me last night that the casinos in Biloxi say that they would be willing to provide cheap rooms and transportation back and forth to the game if BC patrons stayed with them. Hotel rooms are the least of their worries. They want folks to stay up all night anyway. Can't gamble if you sleep.

Regards.
 



We Houstonians wish GSU and SU would move the game to Houston. The hotel industry should be ashamed of themselves for raising the prices Thanksgiving weekend the way they do. I was in Tuskegee last week end, which was the weekend of the Iron Bowl Alabama- Auburn. All the hotels in the Tuskegee Auburn area were booked to capacity. The prices were raised approx. $50 from the normal rates. I can undestand that but raising the rate a couple of hundred dollars is rediculous. I went to new Orleans for the Essence Festival in July and got a room for $100. Three years ago the rooms were going for $150-250 a night but you had to book it for three nights. New Orleans better wake up. But if they dont You all are welcome in Houston.
 
Not only the hotels, but also the Superdome should get it's isht together on the $300k in fees it charges for hosting the game.
With the money that we bring to the city, this fee should at least be comparable to the $75K that Houston is proposing.

It wouldn't be so bad if we were allowed a percentage of concessions, but we don't get isht for that either. It's ridiculous that we are not getting a equitable share of the pie.

Cat Daddy mentioned in his post that the folk in Baton Rouge and the surrounding area should look at commuting from BR rather than purchase a hotel room. I agree. The drive is not that bad, and gas is not that expensive.
 
Louisiana brothers and sisters you all might want to commute to get the attention of the hotels and the Superdome. That was a good suggestion but the word has to be spread.
 
I cant believe I read every post.

I read this post as a neutral party. I would love seeing the BC come to Houston but it will not. I believe that since the Contract binding you guys to N.O is up for rebid, adjust the contract to cap on the amount of money the Hotels can charge simular to the Houston Contract.

Have any official thought about that? :confused: :confused:

Thats all. :D
 
Originally posted by RobT-17
Louisiana brothers and sisters you all might want to commute to get the attention of the hotels and the Superdome. That was a good suggestion but the word has to be spread.

Rob you have to understand that us ole school dogs do dat anyway, it's the young bucks that keep it going because of all the events that go on doing the week.
But it's not just the rates people don't know that the classic was develop inpart to help stimulate a dead economy for thanksgiving weekend in N.O. .... people truly trying to help their state.
Now it way pass time for the city of N.O. to show their appreciation and guarantee both schools athletic dept. at least $2,000,000 each in progression, but they won't because they don't want to help them get on equal playing terms with the PWC'S
 
Originally posted by SUperJag96


Well...If I'm not mistaken, Grambling is closer to Houston than it is to New Orleans, so that's money saved.

I agree SJ. They are approx. the same distance. If the NO does not want to get there act together we have to show them that we do not need them.. We are doing it all for tradition but we are not the donkey's arse and will look for something better...
 
Bluedog I hear you. I just want you all treated fairly because if it wasn't for the classic NO would not make a dime on Thanksgiving weekend and they need to at least share the wealth with the schools.
 
My Opinion

What it all boils down to is taking advantage of opportunity and a target audience. I guarantee you that if the Bayou Classic were to move to "any" other location then the locals would raise their rates and take advantage of the 70,000 plus that would normally not spend any money their any other time of the year. On a smaller scale I see the same thing here in Jackson. When I used to work for the Internation Visitors center I could get rooms for certain visitors at the Crowne Plaza and The Radisson Walthall for
$30.00 a night. Low end rooms there are normally 120.00 a night. But guess what, there are three dates that I couldnt get the special rate....When JSU plays Southern, JSU'S Homecoming, and the Capital City Classic. It's just the nature of the beast, supply meeting demand. The hotel owners as well as other businesses see the dollar signs...same thing happens during Mardi Gras. But I guarantee you no matter where the Classic were to go, it's not gonna change the ultimate factor in this.......GREED.
 
BC should stay in LA, because without La then it will not be call BC.

What makes Houston a big supporter of the Classic?

What will the classic be called if it is moved to Houston or somewhere in TX?

There are 2 things they can do.
1. Chose a home-home situation
2. Find another central location to play
 
Really interesting comments. I was sorta disappointed that some of our fans were shown on television stating emphatically that the game should remain in New Orleans. I agree with that fact, but their tone seemed to indicate that it was GSU and SU to blame for it moving away.

I would have liked to have heard our fans state that the City of New Orleans need to make some concessions in order to keep the game here. The two universities have been good to New Orleans and it's economy since the Classic began. It's only fitting that New Orleans show some appreciation to us by giving us a bigger slice of this economic bonanza.

You negotiate from a position of strength and present a unified front. It doesn't show much unity when our own fans undermine the efforts by blaming the universities for possibly moving the game.
 
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