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DaBiggDogg

DaBiggDogg

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i was lisitenin to some old school band music and noticed something.....the BARITONES wasent being domninant! i think all this b-tone craze started in 95 or 96. before that, it was all about upper brass while the lower b was just mellow. now b tones is all you hear, and if they are weak we say the band sucks or they just sound right because thats what weve gotten accustom to....why?

Your thoughts and explinations on this:uzi:
 
The same can be said about the mellophone. Marching band has bastardized both of these instruments.
 



s phi s said:
The same can be said about the mellophone. Marching band has bastardized both of these instruments.
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OMG! Marching band has GLORIFIED these once shunned/ignored/sparce instruments! My only problem is with Bari-phonies who only read treble clef.
 
SIR_GRAM said:
WHy da fugg is SU's Baritones so loud.. Sound like 10 Giant ELAPHANTS when they play..
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Its all in the technique. Nobody else's baritones play with the same style or technique as the Master phi Blasters, and nobody else's baritones are that freakin' loud. Jackson was up there with them in '03, BUT, that was also the last year that Funky Tone got to cross anyone.
 
SIR_GRAM said:
WHy da fugg is SU's Baritones so loud.. Sound like 10 Giant ELAPHANTS when they play..
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It is tradition at SU.......Our baritones have been beasts since the old days when the section was called Mellow Madness. Of course we had Eflat horns then and no mellophones.
 
mustardmanSU_04 said:
Its all in the technique. Nobody else's baritones play with the same style or technique as the Master phi Blasters, and nobody else's baritones are that freakin' loud. Jackson was up there with them in '03, BUT, that was also the last year that Funky Tone got to cross anyone.
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okay, imma need you to break it down for me..im a percussion major who bout 3 years from a bachelors degree
 
DaBiggDogg said:
okay, imma need you to break it down for me..im a percussion major who bout 3 years from a bachelors degree
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Can't share that secret bub..... Not all out in the public. My homie that goes to Jack State has figured it out, but he said they would not play like that because it doesn't fit in with the bands overall concept.
 
DaBiggDogg said:
i was lisitenin to some old school band music and noticed something.....the BARITONES wasent being domninant! i think all this b-tone craze started in 95 or 96. before that, it was all about upper brass while the lower b was just mellow. now b tones is all you hear, and if they are weak we say the band sucks or they just sound right because thats what weve gotten accustom to....why?

Your thoughts and explinations on this:uzi:
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In a lot (but not all) of old arrangements I've seen, at GSU, the baritones used to play the bass line an octave up from the sousaphone to reinforce the bass line. To me it gave the overall sound of the arrangement a thicker, richer sound. In some I've seen them play something similar to the bass line but with something extra or a background part. Today the baritones mostly play the melody doubling the trumpets to create a power and thus being heard more.
 
SU Fhorns started stepping out around 1987..... 89 was when they became very noticable....96 is when Ronald Barrier took it to a whole new level.....
 
DaBiggDogg said:
if a song has no strength, meaning b-tones and f-horns wont be beastin, think a swac school will play that song?
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Its all about voices.... I could write a beasting version of Mary Had A Little Lamb if thats what I really wanted to do..... If certain sections arent shinning, 90% of the time, thats because the arranger didnt intend for them to.
 



DaBiggDogg said:
i was lisitenin to some old school band music and noticed something.....the BARITONES wasent being domninant! i think all this b-tone craze started in 95 or 96. before that, it was all about upper brass while the lower b was just mellow. now b tones is all you hear, and if they are weak we say the band sucks or they just sound right because thats what weve gotten accustom to....why?

Your thoughts and explinations on this:uzi:
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I don't know about that BD, ever hear SU 91-92 Can't Wait Another Minute. B-tones had the melody throughout...on a ballad- I think thats the one that made Gram pack up and leave BOTB that year. But usually any male voiced tune or even 2nd alto led song will have the melody written for the B-tones, as far as f-horns they've always been there, its just so many now. when I was in the Jukebox the most we ever had was 8, now they are easily double that.
 
we had 8 mellows in 89, we jumped to 16 in 90, 91 we had 10, and 92 we had 12.we probably was more efficient with just 8 but we were beastin in 90 with 16,9 crabs & 7 upperclassmen.91 was good & 92 was better.all 4 of my years we were good. as for the btones they were beast in 89 SKIN & LOVE IS THE KEY,WHIP APPEAL says it all. 90 rebuilding year but decent.91 the rebirth of the btones,92 back to being killers.:tup:
 
daskull891 said:
we had 8 mellows in 89, we jumped to 16 in 90, 91 we had 10, and 92 we had 12.we probably was more efficient with just 8 but we were beastin in 90 with 16,9 crabs & 7 upperclassmen.91 was good & 92 was better.all 4 of my years we were good. as for the btones they were beast in 89 SKIN & LOVE IS THE KEY,WHIP APPEAL says it all. 90 rebuilding year but decent.91 the rebirth of the btones,92 back to being killers.:tup:
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89 F-horns was a beast on the "Secret Rendezvous"
 
SUtrp96 said:
SU Fhorns started stepping out around 1987..... 89 was when they became very noticable....96 is when Ronald Barrier took it to a whole new level.....
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Man, your homeboys from John Mac who came with me in 84 started it going when we switched to F Horns in 85. They were on fire in 85 and 86. It was just that the Baritones, Trumpets and Trombones were so strong then. Especially Baritones. The 85 and 86 baritone section were straight unbelievable. Not knocking ours in 84. But it seemed we went to another level with them when that 85 and 86 crab class came in. 87 was good too. To this day, I have not heard a baritone player play like Carmen Garrett and Ben Sampson, my frats from Forrest Brook Houston. Those cats would wax entire baritone sections by themselves.Those mofos were jazzy, funky, and loud at the same time. Technical as hell. Then Red from St Aug and D. Houston from Mobile added some more fire when they came.

BTW,
JSU had this cat named George Miller back in the day that was mofo on B-tone. Unreal on that horn.
 
I wish our bands would get rid of these marching baritones and go back to the old euphoniums.... You get a richer, fuller sound with them than these 'big-bore' trumpets they play now......

The baritone sound ought to fill a room.. The sound they have now doesn't do that at all....

Just my $0.02......



If all the SWAC schools switched to the old euphoniums, you'd have some hellafied sounding bands......
 
Taylor-Made'90 said:
I wish our bands would get rid of these marching baritones and go back to the old euphoniums.... You get a richer, fuller sound with them than these 'big-bore' trumpets they play now......

The baritone sound ought to fill a room.. The sound they have now doesn't do that at all....

Just my $0.02......



If all the SWAC schools switched to the old euphoniums, you'd have some hellafied sounding bands......
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Yeal, if your listening from the GoodYear blimp....... While we're at it, why dont we all awitch to concert French Horns instead of "mellophones?!" Or at least use F Horn mouthpieces(Seriously..... Thats why FAMU's F Horns sound so dark.)
 
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