Bacone???? College of Faith???.....Where are QUALITY FCS Programs


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This is not to bash any school.

That being said our AD's should have more damn respect for the conference than to schedule schools we have not heard of or existed. Yes, my beloved GSU has been guilty of this in the past and many alumni felt the scheduling of these schools was quite stupid.

I understand the need for a potentially perfect season but scheduling lower tier programs is possibly showing one of the following:

a) you can't find anyone else to schedule
b) you are so hard up for victories that you are willing sacrifice quality teams for a "W"

Again this is not smack but seriously why is it so difficult for some SWAC schools to play quality FCS programs?
 
another FCS conference scheduled these teams below:

Ave Maria
Mississippi College
Texas College
multiple D2s

here's another (Not the MEAC)
Bryant
Brevard
VA-Lynchburg
Newberry
Bluefield
Point
Ky Wesleyan
Shorter
Glenville St
 
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Yeah... I hate scheduling teams like those listed. The games are not fun or competitive and we're better off scheduling a scrimmage with our team.
 
Part of the problem is that so many 1-A schools are scheduling 1-AA schools that it impedes our ability to play each other.
 
TP, the problem lies with the ADs. These OOC schedules should be determined years in advance instead of waiting until the last possible minute to find an opponent. The fact that the SWAC has the 9-game mandate is proof in the pudding. All the AD has to do now is find TWO (2) OOC games, and some schools still can't do that, i.e. PV 2014. Not to single PV out, because other schools might as well have not scheduled anybody either with their OOC opponents.

AAMU's AD Hicks has our OOC games scheduled years in advance. Two seasons ago, we knew we were playing Cincinnati in 2015, and last year found out we play Auburn again in 2016, and the Univ. of South Alabama in 2017. Then we had a 4 year contract with Tuskegee the last few years on top of that. This year we were supposed to play Howard at home, but they backed out last minute, and we were still able to schedule a TOP NOTCH D1 opponent in Coastal Carolina. The only drawback is we lost that 5th home game, but Howard is still paying us for the game, and Coastal Carolina is doing the same for us traveling up there.

I think the SWAC should enact a fine for member institutions scheduling anything below D2 in football (D3, NAIA, club teams, etc.). The competition has got to get better in this conference, and we're never going to do it by scheduling down, and only being able to beat on each other.
 
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Excellent Thread. Want to know why I am So hellbent on SWAC vs. MEAC regular season games? One of the War Party Room Folks answered for me and didn't even know it.

FBS will stop playing FCS. BUT HERE is the kicker: HBCU Classic Oligopolies

What if HBCU Classics stop matching and mixing random HBCU teams and just stuck with two teams they felt will bring in the most revenue? What if the Atlanta Classic decided the ONLY matchup it needs going forward is SU vs. FAMU? What if the Chicago Classic decides it only needs Grambling?

Some HBCUs are going to be left out in the cold because of their unwillingness to build business relationships with MEAC Schools NOW to thrive later.
But when the bomb hits, I will just laugh and say, "I Told You So".
 
same reason FBS teams call us.....they need a home game....will play for a smaller guarantee and your not obligated to tie up for next season schedule if you enter into a home-and-home with an FCS team

PV did 10 games due to an APR contingency plan as they played 12 games the previous year and have 11 this year
 
the band fan said:
same reason FBS teams call us.....they need a home game....will play for a smaller guarantee and your not obligated to tie up for next season schedule if you enter into a home-and-home with an FCS team

PV did 10 games due to an APR contingency plan as they played 12 games the previous year and have 11 this year
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In other words we are doing the same thing with these D2/D3/NAIA schools that P5 and other FBS conferences (and some FCS schools) do when they schedule us. I'm not a fan of having multiple schools like Concordia and VUL in the same season but to gripe at a school that has a FBS school (Texas State) and a tune up game is much ado about nothing.
 
LAZY ADs, a real AD schedules games years in advance, Grambling is playing Cal and BCU in 2015, Arizona and (POSSIBLY) McNeese in 2016. The SWAC needs to start penalizing teams that play non-traditional rival D2 or below teams
 
your only scheduling 2 games a year but scheduling years in advance can be a waste on our level as ADs/coaches come and go and teams are cyclical....

some teams have scheduled in advance but don't publicize it also until the host school decides to let it out so it looks like nothing is done
 
All of y'all are b*tching and moaning about nothing. We've played better OOC competition than half of you mofos in the past 4 years. This year we scheduled Texas State and put out a feeler for another opponent with a guarantee. The post was clear as day on the FootballScoop website a few weeks ago. We needed an 11th game and it just so happened to be University of Faith. Am I happy about it? No, but I understand it and like some said its the same thing as a Power 5 school scheduling one of us.
 



What's the same about it? YOU are an NCAA DIVISION 1 FCS conference school! Are you seriously comparing yourself to an NAIA/prayer league team? The FBS teams are playing 1 division below them when they schedule FCS opponents, and even then the games are not slam dunk victories (Michigan/App St., BCU/FIU). You're talking about scheduling club teams. There is no defense for that. Stop getting defensive about this crap. This is not an anomaly that just happened to your schedule this year... This is EVERY YEAR for the same teams. It's got to stop!
 
Mr. SWAC said:
TP, the problem lies with the ADs. These OOC schedules should be determined years in advance instead of waiting until the last possible minute to find an opponent. The fact that the SWAC has the 9-game mandate is proof in the pudding. All the AD has to do now is find TWO (2) OOC games, and some schools still can't do that, i.e. PV 2014. Not to single PV out, because other schools might as well have not scheduled anybody either with their OOC opponents.

AAMU's AD Hicks has our OOC games scheduled years in advance. Two seasons ago, we knew we were playing Cincinnati in 2015, and last year found out we play Auburn again in 2016, and the Univ. of South Alabama in 2017. Then we had a 4 year contract with Tuskegee the last few years on top of that. This year we were supposed to play Howard at home, but they backed out last minute, and we were still able to schedule a TOP NOTCH D1 opponent in Coastal Carolina. The only drawback is we lost that 5th home game, but Howard is still paying us for the game, and Coastal Carolina is doing the same for us traveling up there.

I think the SWAC should enact a fine for member institutions scheduling anything below D2 in football (D3, NAIA, club teams, etc.). The competition has got to get better in this conference, and we're never going to do it by scheduling down, and only being able to beat on each other.
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Coastal Caolina is FCS
 
I know... they went to the quarterfinals of the FCS playoffs this year before losing to (defending & eventual 4-peat champion) NDSU 39-32. My point is they are a D1 opponent scheduled at the last minute.
 
Coastal Carolina was only last minute because it was UAB or some FBS program that pulled out at the last minute. The same thing happened with Valley and Illinois State last year with game cancellations and had to schedule each other at the last minute.

I wanted to say it in my OP but someone else said already. With the turnover going on with our ADs, many don't think years in advance when some already might have one foot out the door.

As I said before, this is much ado about nothing in the grand scheme of things. Texas State is an FBS school in the Sun Belt. PV doesn't leave the state, gets paid and has the chance at a competitive game.

I'm not a huge fan of them but I understand them because FBS schools do the same with us. At the end of a day this is a business and schools have to do what's best for them not to satisfy a few disgruntled fans on here. SU has two FBS opponents I believe and some said they are whoring themselves out. If you do like PV with a FBS and tune up game people complain. If you put an HBCU on the schedule (a MEAC school like Grambling or lower level), people complain.
 
BRAVEHEART123 said:
Excellent Thread. Want to know why I am So hellbent on SWAC vs. MEAC regular season games? One of the War Party Room Folks answered for me and didn't even know it.

FBS will stop playing FCS. BUT HERE is the kicker: HBCU Classic Oligopolies

What if HBCU Classics stop matching and mixing random HBCU teams and just stuck with two teams they felt will bring in the most revenue? What if the Atlanta Classic decided the ONLY matchup it needs going forward is SU vs. FAMU? What if the Chicago Classic decides it only needs Grambling?

Some HBCUs are going to be left out in the cold because of their unwillingness to build business relationships with MEAC Schools NOW to thrive later.
But when the bomb hits, I will just laugh and say, "I Told You So".
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Then they should be left out in the cold.
 
Mr. SWAC said:
What's the same about it? YOU are an NCAA DIVISION 1 FCS conference school! Are you seriously comparing yourself to an NAIA/prayer league team? The FBS teams are playing 1 division below them when they schedule FCS opponents, and even then the games are not slam dunk victories (Michigan/App St., BCU/FIU). You're talking about scheduling club teams. There is no defense for that. Stop getting defensive about this crap. This is not an anomaly that just happened to your schedule this year... This is EVERY YEAR for the same teams. It's got to stop!
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Prove it.
 
Mr. SWAC said:
What's the same about it? YOU are an NCAA DIVISION 1 FCS conference school! Are you seriously comparing yourself to an NAIA/prayer league team? The FBS teams are playing 1 division below them when they schedule FCS opponents, and even then the games are not slam dunk victories (Michigan/App St., BCU/FIU). You're talking about scheduling club teams. There is no defense for that. Stop getting defensive about this crap. This is not an anomaly that just happened to your schedule this year... This is EVERY YEAR for the same teams. It's got to stop!
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I'll do it for you. You're just talking with no REAL facts. Below are PV's OOC opponents over the past 5 years. Care to rethink that BS you posted??I hope you respond...

2010: Southern Mississippi, Lincoln
2011: Bethune Cookman, Texas State
2012: Lamar, North Dakota State
2013: SFA, Texas State, Abilene Christian
2014: McNeese State
 
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