APR Release (June 11, 2013)


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that is false... AAMU has a 939 in football APR.

...and he is adding in old scores. The new factors will take a lot more into account. JSU has a great single year score. Our schools are getting better with the nuances of APR. I just hope we can keep the quality of the athletes up with these scores. Generally, good APR means sorry players. Even look at Valley. When they had good APR, they sucked azz. Now they still suck but not as bad but look at how their APR dipped.
 



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Schools, especially HBCUs, have to realize that you must invest in FULL staffs in both compliance and communications. Division-I schools attempting to function with one full-time person in compliance and one SID can't continue to let that go on.

What if the compliance director quits or is on an extended leave, who does his or her work? The same goes for an SID at SWAC schools. I want to encourage each of you to look at the staff directory on your school's athletic website, then compare it to the larger schools in your state (Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss. State, etc.).

This is a problem. If schools can't afford to hire more than one SID or compliance coordinator, then that school shouldn't be Division-I.

Division-II doesn't have APR. So that'll be a better option for those schools.
 
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...and he is adding in old scores. The new factors will take a lot more into account. JSU has a great single year score. Our schools are getting better with the nuances of APR. I just hope we can keep the quality of the athletes up with these scores. Generally, good APR means sorry players. Even look at Valley. When they had good APR, they sucked azz. Now they still suck but not as bad but look at how their APR dipped.

This is not our first year over 930
 
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Fixing the NCAA’s Quandary on Historically Black Colleges
June 12, 2013, 4:55 am

By Brad Wolverton


Comments (22)The NCAA slapped postseason bans on 18 Division I teams on Tuesday for failing to meet its academic-progress requirements. All but three of those teams are at historically black colleges, continuing a troubling pattern among less-wealthy institutions.

Since introducing the Academic Progress Rate 10 years ago, the NCAA has set aside some $6-million to help historically black and largely minority institutions improve their numbers. Few people think that’s enough, in part because money is only part of the problem.

Many less-wealthy programs lack the wherewithal to monitor players the way big athletic departments do. One Southeastern Conference institution, for example, has 16 full-time academic-support staff members to help athletes stay on track to graduate. Academic advisers at that level make frequent contact with faculty members and coaches, and know exactly how many academically troubled players they can admit before risking APR penalties.

Compare that record to the Southwestern Athletic Conference, where 11 of the NCAA’s postseason penalties were handed down. Some institutions at that level have just one academic adviser for athletics. Few of those advisers have the time to help the hundreds of players they are responsible for, let alone devise an initial-eligibility assessment for the next year’s class.


http://chronicle.com/blogs/players/...eges/33219?cid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en


Anybody that thinks their school is completely safe from APR.....
 
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The SWAC is getting crushed.


I’d like to tell you no one anticipated the third point, but that wouldn’t be true. It was a primary concern in my APR column from August 2011, when the new rules went into place and a combined 18 of the 21 SWAC and MEAC schools would have been deemed ineligible had there not be a transition period for the new system.

The problem with the way the APR system works is it’s systemically biased against cash-poor programs that don’t have the academic support staff and facilities to match bigger-conference programs. The issue is exacerbated by the way some schools have operated their programs, using the nonconference season as a cash-generating national beatdown tour. The players are away from campus a lot during the season, which doesn’t help.


http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/06/11/apr-ncaa/
 
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Schools, especially HBCUs, have to realize that you must invest in FULL staffs in both compliance and communications. Division-I schools attempting to function with one full-time person in compliance and one SID can't continue to let that go on.

What if the compliance director quits or is on an extended leave, who does his or her work? The same goes for an SID at SWAC schools. I want to encourage each of you to look at the staff directory on your school's athletic website, then compare it to the larger schools in your state (Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss. State, etc.).

Bingo!

That was our downfall all these years. We used to be a one man shop for compliance that lead us down the road we have/are recoving from now. Now we probably have the largest compliance team in the SWAC. It makes all the difference in the world.
 
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Well we short handed in Normal and still have great scores. The highest in football amongst HBCU's. The golf thing is because they tried to bring in to many Bob's and Billy's who didn't stick around.
 
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We also have a coach who runs the same plays over and over again with the same results. Up the middle. To the side, back up the middle. Maybe he can get one of the graduating players to read a new play book for him. .
I stand corrected. A&M is the only school above 930.
 
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We also have a coach who runs the same plays over and over again with the same results. Up the middle. To the side, back up the middle. Maybe he can get one of the graduating players to read a new play book for him. .
:lol::lol::lol:

I know a coach that yall could have. :retard:
:lol:
 
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We also have a coach who runs the same plays over and over again with the same results. Up the middle. To the side, back up the middle. Maybe he can get one of the graduating players to read a new play book for him. .

:lol: at least he can handle APR... maybe not an interview, but APR
 
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Fixing the NCAA’s Quandary on Historically Black Colleges
June 12, 2013, 4:55 am

By Brad Wolverton
http://chronicle.com/blogs/players/...eges/33219?cid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en


Anybody that thinks their school is completely safe from APR.....

Interesting comment from that article:

An underlying problem is that many of the HBCU's in Division I are not large enough and do not have the resources for athletic programs at that level. There's a history here.

These schools were founded in the days of segregated education (Mississippi Valley State University was founded as a segregated institution as late as 1950). In their glory days when most Black students and almost all Black athletes attended HBCU's there were resources for athletics, bands, and other activities--often state resources which, while less than what supported white schools, were nevertheless consistent (bribes, in effect, to keep Black students away from white state schools). The athletic programs of these schools were often highly successful--at one point there were more NFL player from the SWAC than from any other conference, and lots of white folks went to the games. The best Black students and athletes--and student/athletes--went to HBCU's.

Desegregation changed all that. Once it became clear that segregation in higher education was over, the formerly white schools recruited Black athletes and students and student/athletes, state fiscal support and, importantly, popular support of the local state segregated schools diminished (in Mississippi Jackson State and Alcorn may have been Black, but they had been "our" Black schools), and a lot of institutions found themselves--find themselves--with athletic programs at a level which they cannot support. Black students and athletes and student/athletes are much more widely dispersed, local and state support has diminished, but institutions resist downsizing from DI to DII or DII to DIII. No HBCU is going to win a national championship in a major sport; many could be highly competitive with schools their own size.
HBCU's are not the only schools to find themselves in this sort of predicament. But they are disproportionately represented in this group. They still have good students and good athletes and good student/athletes, but they don't have huge stadiums to fill with paying fans, or scads of assistant coaches, or squads of tutors. They're not overrepresented among the schools with athletes with academic problems because they're HBCU's but because they're smaller and overextended. Better all around if more of these schools were encouraged and enabled to "fight at their own weight."
 



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I stand corrected. A&M is the only school above 930.

MH, why you worried about everybody else? Right now, you have the longest row to hoe. JSU had like a 961 or 971 or something like that single year. So it's not like once these new numbers come into play that a 930 can't be attained. How about you worry about AlaState making a 900. :lol: We also don't know how many astericks won't be placed on that 930. You just rubbing your gums right now. Let the NCAA do what they have to do and you worry about what you can control. You about to have an empty stadium all year long and a low APR to deal with. Stay focused.
 
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I read in another article where a 930 is equivalent to a 50% predicted graduation rate.....some of our schools are sitting in BAD shape.
 
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I read in another article where a 930 is equivalent to a 50% predicted graduation rate.....some of our schools are sitting in BAD shape.

yes, that is if you lose 10% every year over a 4 year period. But that is flawed because you would need to lose 10% out of every class and that is NOT how APR is calculated.

..and actually 50% is for APR is for 4 years. Most HBCUs only graduate 15-20% of our students in 4 years. Most of us graduate less than 50% in 6 years. That is why some HBCUs got wiavers because if the schools grad rate is lower than 50%, you can hold the football team to a higher standard.
 
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Bingo!

That was our downfall all these years. We used to be a one man shop for compliance that lead us down the road we have/are recoving from now. Now we probably have the largest compliance team in the SWAC. It makes all the difference in the world.

A good compliance office makes a very BIG difference. Also, some people speak down on transfers but that is just ignorance on their part. But I will say that compliance officers have a harder time with transfers due to credits that departments will accept. This is where our compliance office messed up bigtime with JSU. They didn't know how to handle transfers. You need a well staffed and well-trained compliance staff. But we also need to money to pay and train these people... which leads to another problem.
 
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Don't just kick the kids out of school, kick the coaches and administrators out who can't do the job.
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btw, this whole APR stuff is gonna get worse. Right now, the minimum 4 year score is 900. Next year, that minimum goes up to 930. Right now, no SWAC school would meet that minimum.

The majority of our scores are over 930
 
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