APR changes make things more tough for Tigers


SoloMan said:
Another NCAA change is that school can give athletes $2000 spending money, now where are ours schools going to get that money?
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Exactly. I was thinking the same thing and when does that 2K become 4-5K with the schools who are willing to be shady about it. How will it really be tracked.
 
TSUGIRL07 said:
JR, did the article mention the exceptions? If so, can you explain the exceptions that they are proposing for "HBCUs and low-resource schools? If most of us will still suffer as a result of APR, how do the exceptions help us? I am not saying we should have them or not, I just would like to see the plan mapped out so I could understand it more.
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I am assuming these special exceptions for HBCUs will be given because we can't afford a staff of tutors and have special folks just to work with the student athletes like these big PWCs do. They have enough resources to help their weaker performing student athletes get through their academic challenges where the typical HBCU or even FCS school with a small budget can't afford to put those type of resources or fixes in place. So I guess we will get additional time to get our scores up or get waivers to get by. If we can show some steady improvement then maybe you don't get banned.
 



Tigerpride said:
Becasue that bad vibe is not true. This is a RESOURCE issue. You act like the kids at Ohio State are smart. They just have a system in place that keeps them in school and they have enough donors to send their kids to summer school. APR is not going to make our kids any smarter. It's only going to make our programs weaker!
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Not necessarily. Summer school isn't an issue here because the APR measures the different semester. As long as you're a full time student(which I believe is still 12 hours at JSU) and eligible(which is 2.0, correct me if I'm wrong), you won't count negatively against the APR. Now if you can't maintain at least a 2.0, then you don't need to be in anyone's school. That goes for all students, not just athletes.

The problem at most schools is not a lack of resources, but a lack of will and want. I put that on the coaches first, then the administrations. Half the battle is just making sure your players are showing up for class. Lazy azz coaches. Comegy expects a call from the faculty when his kids miss class. What??? Why doesn't HE take the time to make sure his guys are going to class. That's half the battle. The other half is not removing kids from scholarship because someone "better" comes along. Luckly we've made improvement in those areas. But we never should've been in this mess to begin with.

The problem is that most of these coaches feel that what happens off the field, short of NCAA violations, have no effect on their job security. For them its all about wins and losses. If the school says a guy is eligible to play, throw him out there. Don't worry about what he's doing once he's in school, just make sure he gets in.
 
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I found this quote VERY interesting...

In calculating the eligibility of teams under the new 930 APR standard, and using the available APR data the NCAA provides for the last six years, one comes to a startling discovery – the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC) would not have had a single team eligible for the last 3 NCAA tournaments, and the Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) would have had 1 team out of 10 eligible during the same period! In fact, from a statistical perspective, with 10 teams over 3 years, the SWAC had a measly 13% chance of placing an APR eligible team in the tournament, while the MEAC with 11 teams had a definitive 0% chance of placing an eligible team in the postseason!
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Read more: http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/apr.html
 
JSU/99 said:
Not necessarily. Summer school isn't an issue here because the APR measures the different semester. As long as you're a full time student(which I believe is still 12 hours at JSU) and eligible(which is 2.0, correct me if I'm wrong), you won't count negatively against the APR. Now if you can't maintain at least a 2.0, then you don't need to be in anyone's school. That goes for all students, not just athletes.

The problem at most schools is not a lack of resources, but a lack of will and want. I put that on the coaches first, then the administrations. Half the battle is just making sure your players are showing up for class. Lazy azz coaches. Comegy expects a call from the faculty when his kids miss class. What??? Why doesn't HE take the time to make sure his guys are going to class. That's half the battle. The other half is not removing kids from scholarship because someone "better" comes along. Luckly we've made improvement in those areas. But we never should've been in this mess to begin with.

The problem is that most of these coaches feel that what happens off the field, short of NCAA violations, have no effect on their job security. For them its all about wins and losses. If the school says a guy is eligible to play, throw him out there. Don't worry about what he's doing once he's in school, just make sure he gets in.
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You need 30 hours a year to move up in classification. If they only take 12 hours and pass they will not be on track to graduate but a kid at school with money for summer school can have kids take 12 hours a semerter and take the other 6 in the summer.
 
Tigerpride said:
You need 30 hours a year to move up in classification. If they only take 12 hours and pass they will not be on track to graduate but a kid at school with money for summer school can have kids take 12 hours a semerter and take the other 6 in the summer.
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I may be wrong but I believe the NCAA gives athletes 5 or 6 years to graduate.
 
Tigerpride said:
You need 30 hours a year to move up in classification. If they only take 12 hours and pass they will not be on track to graduate but a kid at school with money for summer school can have kids take 12 hours a semerter and take the other 6 in the summer.
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For APR purposes, you only have to be academically eligible and in school. 1 point for retention, 1 point for being eligible. The NCAA doesn't measure how many hours a student has, so long as he has enough to remain eligible.
 
JSU/99 said:
For APR purposes, you only have to be academically eligible and in school. 1 point for retention, 1 point for being eligible. The NCAA doesn't measure how many hours a student has, so long as he has enough to remain eligible.
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For APR, you have to pass 24 hours a year, with no more than 6 coming over the summer.
 
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