SONNY
The Future of Omega!!!!
What is Delaware's beef with DSU again?
AAMU in the playoffs: What are the chances?
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What is Delaware's beef with DSU again?
SONNY
The Future of Omega!!!!
or the SWAC-MEAC Challange.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
You guys always call me crazy but we have the PERFECT set-up.
1. Cee Dog, it is not that we don't want to support AAMU but the scenerio needs to be better. If JSU wins the EAST, that would make AAMU the third team in the conference. It would have been better for AAMU if both JSU and AAMU had beat Grambling and JSU would be AAMU's only loss. It also would have helped had you not played Clark...even a win UNA would sit better with the voters. If JSU was your only loss, you would be 10-1 and basically in the playoffs (assuming as well that JSU did not lose to PV).
2.) Sending our top teams to the SWAC Championship is pure genious but it takes vision to see it. The perfect scenerio would be for our second place team to win or do well the playoffs.
3.) This shows the importance of scheduling decent opponents; even if it is a good D2 squad. If we can get to the point of our teams beating the teams that have most of you so enamored (PWC's), then our SWAC championship could possibly mean more than the overall 1-AA title. If the SoCon pulled out of the playoffs but kicked everybody's azz in 1-AA, does that not show that they are better than 1-AA? 1-AA is small potatoes to the rest of the world and we don't need to send our best there. We are too good for that. Where do they send their best?
1. Cee Dog, it is not that we don't want to support AAMU but the scenerio needs to be better. If JSU wins the EAST, that would make AAMU the third team in the conference. It would have been better for AAMU if both JSU and AAMU had beat Grambling and JSU would be AAMU's only loss. It also would have helped had you not played Clark...even a win UNA would sit better with the voters. If JSU was your only loss, you would be 10-1 and basically in the playoffs (assuming as well that JSU did not lose to PV).
2.) Sending our top teams to the SWAC Championship is pure genious but it takes vision to see it. The perfect scenerio would be for our second place team to win or do well the playoffs.
3.) This shows the importance of scheduling decent opponents; even if it is a good D2 squad. If we can get to the point of our teams beating the teams that have most of you so enamored (PWC's), then our SWAC championship could possibly mean more than the overall 1-AA title. If the SoCon pulled out of the playoffs but kicked everybody's azz in 1-AA, does that not show that they are better than 1-AA? 1-AA is small potatoes to the rest of the world and we don't need to send our best there. We are too good for that. Where do they send their best?
staggalee83
War & Thunder
Gonna be tight to get an at-large bid and not ranked.
It would be tight to get an at-large bid if ya'll were ranked say 17 or 18 even.
Don't think it will happen this year.
A Swac team would probably have to be ranked 13th or 14th in the poll's just to get a 16th seed in the playoff's.
JaguarNation99
That's Dr. JN99 to you...
I don't know all the details, and I know they've played in other sports. But for whatever reason, they keep finding a way not to play DSU in football. I would guess that as the state's flagship school, they're afraid of possibly losing to "that black school" up the road.
Mr. Tiger
Mr. T
And what do you call having a championship game that leads to NO WHERE. :xeye: That's smart.
The Heritage Bowl drew just as many fans as the SWAC Championship game despite that setup. We all know the SCG's only purpose is financial.
Mr. Tiger
Mr. T
I will highlight the teams that can't be selected or probably won't be selected.
Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Northern Iowa Panthers (70) 10-0 2,474 1
2. North Dakota State Bison (23) 10-0 2,291 2
3. Montana Grizzlies (10) 10-0 2,269 3
4. McNeese State Cowboys (3) 10-0 2,260 4
5. Southern Illinois Salukis 9-1 2,084 5
6. Appalachian State Mountaineers 8-2 1,982 7
7. Richmond Spiders 8-2 1,845 9
8. Massachusetts Minutemen 8-2 1,841 8
9. Delaware Blue Hens 8-2 1,591 6
10. Delaware State Hornets 9-1 1,538 10
11. Yale Bulldogs 9-0 1,417 12
12. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 8-2 1,408 13
13. Wofford Terriers 8-3 1,366 15
14. James Madison Dukes 7-3 1,253 16
15. Eastern Washington Eagles 7-3 942 20
16. Georgia Southern Eagles 7-3 892 11
17. Youngstown State Penguins 7-4 742 21
18. Fordham Rams 8-2 672 22
19. Grambling State Tigers 8-2 653 17
20. New Hampshire Wildcats 6-4 568 14
21. Eastern Illinois Panthers 7-3 539 25
22. Hofstra Pride 7-3 380 18
23. Alabama A&M Bulldogs 8-2 307 NR
24. Elon Phoenix 6-4 223 19
25. Cal Poly Mustangs 6-4 188 24
North Dakota State is ineligible because they just moved up recently. Yale is in the Ivy League and can't be selected. Georgia Southern will probably lose to Colorado State. Youngstown State has only six Division I wins. Grambling...Bayou Classic. Hofstra will probably lose to UMass. So that leaves AAMU at 17. So New Hampshire, Eastern Illinois, and AAMU are probably fighting it out for that last spot.
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm
Interesting post.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
A JSU alum always has to task of logically breaking things down for others to understand.
TexasTerror
Well-Known Member
Don't forget about the automatic qualifiers and the fact there are no seeds outside of the top four, three of which will probably be from the west (McNeese, Montana and Northern Iowa)...
A 10-1 AAMU team would be in the playoffs -- no question there. Time for the SWAC to really test itself out next year with more OOC conferences. If the SWAC can muster enough wins OOC to pass the test, there may be an at-large bid waiting at the end of the season.
The "in-house" championship game as the SWAC title game is, does not mean a thing outside of the SWAC -- especially since it is the "Rematch Bowl" at the current point in time. It brings in $$$ and gets on TV, but does nothing for the prestige of the conference...
If you guys take care of business, OOC, it may start meaning a bit more as another posted acknowledged...just need to take care of business...
So what happen to you?
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
Ouch now that's gone to leave a scar. :lmao: Po TP.
Most of this I agree with. But to put things in perspective, a championship team of any conference means nothing to other schools outside of that conference as well. Whether or not a championship game is played is irrelevant.
However, the SWAC screws up the new 7 game mandate by allowing member schools to play each other outside of the required schedule. That is straight BS and does nothing to help the conference (in terms of strength) in the long run.
TexasTerror
Well-Known Member
Yes, it does. Winning a conference championship for most of the FCS world means an automatic qualifying bid for the NCAA Division I Championship and considering, winning a national championship is the goal of most conferences and the folks who follow FCS football care about the playoffs, this is very important. Even for the NEC and MAAC, it means a bit to the Gridiron Classic, a postseason "bowl" game if you will, for the FCS mid-majors.
What does winning the SWAC championship game mean to the winner? Outside of conference, it means nothing. No postseason bid. No postseason 'Classic'.
Yes, I agree. That is ridiculous and it does hurt the conference...
I didn't say it wouldn't mean anything to the people who actually win the conference. I thought this was regarding those outside of said conference. I seriously doubt that Team A who wins the Southland conference title gives two farts about Team B winning the SoCon title. As long as they are in, I really don't think they care about the other conferences...and why should they?
Now, if you feel the need to schitt on the SCG because you don't like it that is your choice. But you can't tell me that those kids who actually play in that game don't give a dayum. As we have said many times before, we could care less WTF people like you or anyone else on AGS care about the SCG.
TexasTerror
Well-Known Member
I care about the other conferences a great deal, as I would like to see the SLC get as many bids as possible into the Division I playoffs. Unfortunately, the last few years have been slim as it comes to that, but the SLC used to place two teams and even three into the Division I playoffs. It's critical to follow the other conferences.
Following the SWAC? Unless there's a legitimate chance the SWAC may get a playoff bid, and yes, AAMU is a longshot, there's not much reason to pay attention -- especially to a conference title game that does not put a team into the playoffs.
Other conferences do matter because of the impact on the playoffs and other conference's playoff bids...AAMU may be able to speak to that this year as they need some help from other conferences (outside of the SWAC) for their chance to get in. Yep, AAMU might actually be watching to see results from around the FCS world, they may even care about it...gawd forbid!
No doubt it means a lot to the players and those involved. Never questioned that. I just said that winning the SWAC title game does not equate to any true prize -- outside of winning the conference.
I think the SWAC championship game is dandy for a league that chooses not to participate in the playoffs by virtue of their own scheduling, but I feel bad that those student-athletes are the only ones on their campus who can not compete for a national title in their sport.
AAMU only cares because it is a realistic secondary option. Fact of the matter is if Jackson State loses Saturday and AAMU wins. AAMU goes to the SCG. In this case, the playoffs are no longer an option.
When it is all said and done only one team will be crowed national champion. If that team does not come from the SLC. All there is left is the SLC champion. Nobody cares about the other 15 teams.
You don't feel bad for those poor student athletics and there is no need to do so. Those poor student athletes are fully aware before they decide to commit to playing for a SWAC school they are not going to be playing for a national championship. So save the drama.
C-LeB28
Moderator
AGAIN....
Like Same Ole G stated and I wholeheartedly agree, who gives a damn about how bad you "claim" you feel for the student athletes of the Southwestern Athletic Conference.
When these young men either accept a scholarship (whether it be partial or full) or is a walk on, they understand the prize at the end of the season is a conference championship title. So it is what it is; it works for us and the playoffs works for you.
TexasTerror
Well-Known Member
Do these young men also understand the lack of coverage on their own school's web site in favor of advertisements? :mrt:
Now, that I feel bad for. There are tons of good stories there (both on the field and off) and the media can not get to them all. In that case, it really comes down to the school to publicize the kids...
FYI -- Chuck Burton still has Alabama A&M in the playoffs. McNeese is the likely destination. Thoughts on a McN/AAMU game?
mhurd97
Well-Known Member
I do not know if AAMU will make the playoffs this year; however, I think it is great for the SWAC to be in a position to have a member school in contention.
I like the fact that we have the SCG, it gives all member schools something to play for and it keeps the interest of the fans. I think once we have the 7-game mandate re-instituted and functional, it gives our conference a better chance to have schools playing for a spot in the SCG and playoffs. I can only see this as added exposure for our conference.
As we know, the big conferences will get all of the support and exposure as they should. They have a large fan base due to their large student enrollment and large alumni base. However, the direction that the SWAC is going in my opinion spreads the word about the SWAC. I think it continues to set the bar for Div-1AA( sub-division championship series or whatever it's called now).
We are the only conference in its classification with a championship game, lead in attendance, and we continue to get national exposure.
I like the fact that we have the SCG, it gives all member schools something to play for and it keeps the interest of the fans. I think once we have the 7-game mandate re-instituted and functional, it gives our conference a better chance to have schools playing for a spot in the SCG and playoffs. I can only see this as added exposure for our conference.
As we know, the big conferences will get all of the support and exposure as they should. They have a large fan base due to their large student enrollment and large alumni base. However, the direction that the SWAC is going in my opinion spreads the word about the SWAC. I think it continues to set the bar for Div-1AA( sub-division championship series or whatever it's called now).
We are the only conference in its classification with a championship game, lead in attendance, and we continue to get national exposure.
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
The good thing about this is that if AAMU does make it to the playoffs we will shut all the naysers up about having a SCG and a team in the playoffs. We will be the only conf. that has the best of both worlds. No one else could say that. I bet you if this does happen other conf. will look into this. Mark my words. Especially if we make it pass the first round. Don't laugh because this could work in favor of the SWAC. Everyone should be pushing for this.
Mr. Tiger
Mr. T
This would not be historic. The MEAC almost NEVER sent their first place team to the Heritage Bowl. Their first place teams went to the playoffs and the second place team to the Heritage Bowl. In 1999, they had two teams in the playoffs and Hampton in the Heritage Bowl. So if Alabama A&M got in, which I hope it happens, it would not send schools and conferences scrambling to start championship games.
CEE DOG
Well-Known Member
I didn't say it would be historic. I said it would show that we can have the SCG and still get a good team in the play-offs. The HB is not the same as the SCG. The SCG and a playoff team means we basically pimp the system. Say what you want, but if we make money off of having a SCG and get a team in the playoffs that can actually win you better beileve other schools are going to want to make that money also. This is business. Money talks and the rest walks. We have got to get out of that mentality that we can't make something happen. :smh: We can have the best of both worlds if we make it happen.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
Just get Clark off of your schedule, beat Gramling, lose to Jackson State and go to the playoffs...:lmao:
