A Year Later: How do you feel
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aamuprettywoman
AAMU all day every day!
I'm numb and ...
I pray no one more innocent people have to lose their lives in terrorist attacks or seeking revenge...regardless of culprit!
I don't feel any safer than I did a year ago. As a matter of fact I feel even less protected than ever before because @ the root of
every major disaster in our country are politics, crooked government officials and plots that we don't know about until such tragedies as 9-11, weak arse CEO's, corporate gurus and financial analysts that prey on our life savings and ignorance...
and a dumb arse President!:redhot:
God help us all.:shame:
I pray no one more innocent people have to lose their lives in terrorist attacks or seeking revenge...regardless of culprit!
I don't feel any safer than I did a year ago. As a matter of fact I feel even less protected than ever before because @ the root of
every major disaster in our country are politics, crooked government officials and plots that we don't know about until such tragedies as 9-11, weak arse CEO's, corporate gurus and financial analysts that prey on our life savings and ignorance...
and a dumb arse President!:redhot:
God help us all.:shame:
BluBlood
"Mississippi Woman"
...but every since I was grammar school age, there were all types of these rumors scaring the crap out of us. I never thought of US as being that safe and all of that. I don't understand, maybe I have to be on the other side of the fence to view USA as sacred ground.
These are just events leading up to the end. It has to happen, and it will get worse. Just stay prayful and in God.
These are just events leading up to the end. It has to happen, and it will get worse. Just stay prayful and in God.
pbla
Focus
It's going to get worse,because as long as U.S. supports Israel(the 51st state of America) terrorisim will continue until the sun dies in the universe. People should realize this problem started in 1896 when Thomas Herzl wrote the book The Jewish State.
Jewish immigration to the country Palestine began in the early 1900's. Surprisingly a lot of Jewish people at that time did not agree to a Jewish state becacuse their reason was that the idea of a Jewish state has to come from a divine source and not a politcal one.
But a lot of the younger Jewish population did not agree with the ideas of their elders. So they continued to migrate to Palestine. As the young Jewish population continue to grow in Palestine so did problems for the native Palestinians.
At that time Palestine was a British colony, that's when the problems began for the native Palestinians.
The British began to take land from Palestinians and set up Jewish neighberhoods.
Of course the Palestinians protested to the British authorities but their concerns were on deaf ears. Then attacks on Jewish homes and businesses started in the early 1920's from Palestinians trying to get their land back. Then in 1948 the League of Nations made the majority of Palestine an Israelis state.
Definitely against the wishes of native Palestinians who were out numbered by Jews as of some 20 to 30 years of immigration... especially during WWII. So the fight for the Palestinians to get their country back continues today and forever and forever ever.
The history of the Israelis and Palestinians conflict is 96 years old...NOT 2000 years old. All the Palestinians want is their land back. If someone came into your house and moved you to the bathroom and tell you that you cannot come out, surely you would fight to get your home back.
The history of this conflict is deep but if you want to read more just read the Brittanica's encyclopedia's the history of Israel. Surprisingly, there are events in that book that news and the schools do not teach. I wonder why. Right is right and wrong is wrong. If the world could only accept the truth about our history, then hopefully there would be peace in the world.
Jewish immigration to the country Palestine began in the early 1900's. Surprisingly a lot of Jewish people at that time did not agree to a Jewish state becacuse their reason was that the idea of a Jewish state has to come from a divine source and not a politcal one.
But a lot of the younger Jewish population did not agree with the ideas of their elders. So they continued to migrate to Palestine. As the young Jewish population continue to grow in Palestine so did problems for the native Palestinians.
At that time Palestine was a British colony, that's when the problems began for the native Palestinians.
The British began to take land from Palestinians and set up Jewish neighberhoods.
Of course the Palestinians protested to the British authorities but their concerns were on deaf ears. Then attacks on Jewish homes and businesses started in the early 1920's from Palestinians trying to get their land back. Then in 1948 the League of Nations made the majority of Palestine an Israelis state.
Definitely against the wishes of native Palestinians who were out numbered by Jews as of some 20 to 30 years of immigration... especially during WWII. So the fight for the Palestinians to get their country back continues today and forever and forever ever.
The history of the Israelis and Palestinians conflict is 96 years old...NOT 2000 years old. All the Palestinians want is their land back. If someone came into your house and moved you to the bathroom and tell you that you cannot come out, surely you would fight to get your home back.
The history of this conflict is deep but if you want to read more just read the Brittanica's encyclopedia's the history of Israel. Surprisingly, there are events in that book that news and the schools do not teach. I wonder why. Right is right and wrong is wrong. If the world could only accept the truth about our history, then hopefully there would be peace in the world.
Vinita
Let's Go Lions, GO!
I don't feel any safer, but I can't live my life in fear, and I refuse to allow my children to see me afraid to live. I can be smart and safe, and enjoy life.
9-11 showed me that life is too short to live it afraid. If I cower in the house, afraid to live, then that coward bastard Bing Lawson has won.
And I can't allow that.
9-11 showed me that life is too short to live it afraid. If I cower in the house, afraid to live, then that coward bastard Bing Lawson has won.
And I can't allow that.
Stormy
extradinaire d'auteur
Anesthetized
Numb, from all the rhetoric....and violence.
Sad, for all the families that weren't so lucky.
Blessed, that I wasn't in any of the buildings,
and didn't lose any family or friends to the tragedy.
(My father lost several friends in Pentagon)
A year later I still think it was the beginning of WW3, it just hasn't materialized yet. :smh:
Numb, from all the rhetoric....and violence.
Sad, for all the families that weren't so lucky.
Blessed, that I wasn't in any of the buildings,
and didn't lose any family or friends to the tragedy.
(My father lost several friends in Pentagon)
A year later I still think it was the beginning of WW3, it just hasn't materialized yet. :smh:
Seeing Spots
Joyful Woman!
EVERYTHING SHE SAID....
Except CHILD instead of children.
uh, Nita, thanks for bringing a little humor into such tragic solemn thoughts...BEN LAWSON:lmao: FELL OUT!
I was starting to cry! I needed that laugh!
Except CHILD instead of children.
uh, Nita, thanks for bringing a little humor into such tragic solemn thoughts...BEN LAWSON:lmao: FELL OUT!
I was starting to cry! I needed that laugh!
ALCORNITE 86
Retired Soldier
Our Role In The Middle East
Is getting bigger and bigger as we try to convince the World that we need to attack Sadaam and do what "Big George" did not do. Friends, bullets will be flying in Iraq in a few months. Sadaam has had the same Weapons of Mass Destruction, Weapon-Grade Plutonium and Nuclear capability before and after the Gulf War and now he is a problem! Come on! We have been knowing that crap forever.
And now it is known (To The Public) that he is harboring members of "Bing Lawson's" (I like that name) terror network. Adul Nidad or whater his name was, was a fugitive in Iraq for years and was finally murdered because his health failed him and he could not perform his "Terroristic Masterminding" as he did in the early 80's.
We (military) are not prepared to go back into Iraq with our current ongoing missions in Bosnia, Kosovo and Afganistan. If we do, there will be more body bags arriving at Dover AFB than Americans want.
Is getting bigger and bigger as we try to convince the World that we need to attack Sadaam and do what "Big George" did not do. Friends, bullets will be flying in Iraq in a few months. Sadaam has had the same Weapons of Mass Destruction, Weapon-Grade Plutonium and Nuclear capability before and after the Gulf War and now he is a problem! Come on! We have been knowing that crap forever.
And now it is known (To The Public) that he is harboring members of "Bing Lawson's" (I like that name) terror network. Adul Nidad or whater his name was, was a fugitive in Iraq for years and was finally murdered because his health failed him and he could not perform his "Terroristic Masterminding" as he did in the early 80's.
We (military) are not prepared to go back into Iraq with our current ongoing missions in Bosnia, Kosovo and Afganistan. If we do, there will be more body bags arriving at Dover AFB than Americans want.
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
I don't feel any safer, any more secure.....
I have become even more skeptical of our gov't. Over the past year, we have launched both military and propaganda attacks against Afghanistan and the Middle East. Then we try to under-play the Israeli-Palestinian struggle, because it's getting more TV time than Operation Enduring Freedom. Then we beg India and Pakistan to NOT test their nukes, because we were busy hunting the Taliban. Then, since we didn't ever get Osama Bin Laden, we presumed (for a few weeks) that he was dead, and then shifted our attention from Al Quieda to Saddam Hussein and Iraq. And now our President is trying to convince us and the world that we need to go to war against Saddam again, now claiming that he has weapons of mass destrustion and ties to Al Quieda.
And here we are, one year later, with only one would-be terrorist having gone to trial. No Taliban chiefs, and no Osama.....
And....
Billions of dollars have been made commercializing the events of 9-11. We have made 'saints' out of the NYPD, NYFD and Port Authority Forces.....They have become the focus of our patriotism and affection. Every time you turn on the TV, there they are. Yet, we've somehow forgetten about the countless workers and ordinary citizens killed in the WTCs, the military and civilian personnel killed in the Pentagon, and the passengers killed on the four planes......They've been all but forgotten.
And then we 'rig' an AFC playoff game, and the Patriots go on to win the Super Bowl......
I think America needs to be truthful about our Foreign Policy, especially in it's dealings in the Middle East. We are not innocent lambs......There's blood on our hands too.
We need to learn to leave people alone.....Everybody doesn't want democracy and capitalism and Free Enterprise and gender equality and voting rights and pure self-determination.......And the sooner we learn that, the better off we'll be.....
Believe dat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bawling:
I have become even more skeptical of our gov't. Over the past year, we have launched both military and propaganda attacks against Afghanistan and the Middle East. Then we try to under-play the Israeli-Palestinian struggle, because it's getting more TV time than Operation Enduring Freedom. Then we beg India and Pakistan to NOT test their nukes, because we were busy hunting the Taliban. Then, since we didn't ever get Osama Bin Laden, we presumed (for a few weeks) that he was dead, and then shifted our attention from Al Quieda to Saddam Hussein and Iraq. And now our President is trying to convince us and the world that we need to go to war against Saddam again, now claiming that he has weapons of mass destrustion and ties to Al Quieda.
And here we are, one year later, with only one would-be terrorist having gone to trial. No Taliban chiefs, and no Osama.....
And....
Billions of dollars have been made commercializing the events of 9-11. We have made 'saints' out of the NYPD, NYFD and Port Authority Forces.....They have become the focus of our patriotism and affection. Every time you turn on the TV, there they are. Yet, we've somehow forgetten about the countless workers and ordinary citizens killed in the WTCs, the military and civilian personnel killed in the Pentagon, and the passengers killed on the four planes......They've been all but forgotten.
And then we 'rig' an AFC playoff game, and the Patriots go on to win the Super Bowl......
I think America needs to be truthful about our Foreign Policy, especially in it's dealings in the Middle East. We are not innocent lambs......There's blood on our hands too.
We need to learn to leave people alone.....Everybody doesn't want democracy and capitalism and Free Enterprise and gender equality and voting rights and pure self-determination.......And the sooner we learn that, the better off we'll be.....
Believe dat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bawling:
Blacknbengal
Well-Known Member
It has already been written, prophecied, and coming to pass. Just look for when the whole world (including USA) to turn against Israel that there will start the worst of holy wars that this world has ever seen.
Then there will be a loud sound of a trumpet...........................................
aamuprettywoman
AAMU all day every day!
This too, like US, shall pass.
crazylegs
Da' Franchise...
Taylor, I gotta disagree with you on some points here, although the media coverage of this whole thing has been a bit ill-managed....I can personally vouch on how much regular citizens and the military have been for gotten about because I see how appreciated they are everyday when I come into the pentagon to work...If anything, this whole nasty event has steeled the resolve of alot of folks, both civilian and military...I can't count how many times I've whipped out my military id and gotten nothing but respect and and love from anybody I've run across (heck, I've had complete strangers walk up to me and show that kind of appreciation while I was still in the service...)
Give the american public a little more credit than just being sheep...They know who sacrificed what, and they show it in every way imaginable...As far as the US role in the world these days, we've gotta be alot more even-handed than we have been in the past, especially in the middle east....Yeah, G-Dubyuh is a couple of bricks short of a full load, but we ultimately control what kind of foreign policy gets dictated....public opinion is a strong thing, especially in a democracy...
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
Well I'm glad that you're getting recognition and appreciation for what you do. And I'm sure that being in and around the Pentagon and D.C., the appreciation come come quite easily(and it should). But my point was that in other parts of the country, away from the actual places of the terrorist attacks, the recognition and admiration come a little harder, and certainly isn't widely seen on a daily basis. And it surely doesn't generate much (if any) media coverage.
The media (by and large) has convienently not reported (with any regularity) the history of our involvement in Afghanistan over the last 30 years. But countless special reports have been aired reporting on Osama Bin Laden and his terrorist network and their finances and such. And they even try to report some the Taliban's early history in the region. But they purposefully leave out the fact that the US secretly worked to de-stabilize the Afghan gov't in order to secure oil pipeline easements from Soviet oil fields...The Soviet/Afghan war lasted 10 years. And the CIA and other US agencies supplied, financed and backed a group of Afghan rebels led be who? Osama Bin Laden.... But he wasn't known as a terrorist then. We called him a Freedom Fighter......But when the Soviet Union broke-up, and we got access to the Black Sea oil fields, we no longer needed the Afghan pipeline, so we backed out of the deal, and left the country in disarray and ruin, thus giving rise to the Taliban......And you wonder why they hate us?"
That's the truth (In condensed form), but that's not what gets reported..........That was my point.
crazylegs
Da' Franchise...
our role as the world's policeman has got to change a bit...
Simply put,
Our government has to really re-assess the role of international peacekeeper a bit...It's not really as easy as "leaving folks alone" because the UN essentially has no bite if we don't play the role of peacekeeper...
Has the U.S. government screwed up policy concerning this over the years??? Hell yeah, on a number of occasions...However, If we don't play that role, what's to stop the next regime of fanatics from annexing a country or pulling some ethnic cleansing job on a population that may not be able to defend itself???
Places like bosnia, the middle east, indonesia, and Somolia are perfect examples of that...On top of that, there are still places where U.S. Iterests have a more direct affect on foreign policy (i.e. The Oil-Rich middle east, etc...)
As far as the israelis go, they don't have a choice...If they show any sign of weakness, Some of the 8 to 10 Arabic nations won't hesitate to exploit it....
Correction, I don't know of anybody on this planet that want to have their basic rights and humanity taken away to be under some government's thumb...Goverments and dictatorships might, but not regular folks...Now I do agree that we as a country need to abstain from voluntarily altering a country's internal affairs, but youy got to weigh that against a potential later threat to us as a country...
If we were most of the other countries in the UN, we could probably do the isolationist thing and pull it off....
Simply put,
Our government has to really re-assess the role of international peacekeeper a bit...It's not really as easy as "leaving folks alone" because the UN essentially has no bite if we don't play the role of peacekeeper...
Has the U.S. government screwed up policy concerning this over the years??? Hell yeah, on a number of occasions...However, If we don't play that role, what's to stop the next regime of fanatics from annexing a country or pulling some ethnic cleansing job on a population that may not be able to defend itself???
Places like bosnia, the middle east, indonesia, and Somolia are perfect examples of that...On top of that, there are still places where U.S. Iterests have a more direct affect on foreign policy (i.e. The Oil-Rich middle east, etc...)
As far as the israelis go, they don't have a choice...If they show any sign of weakness, Some of the 8 to 10 Arabic nations won't hesitate to exploit it....
Correction, I don't know of anybody on this planet that want to have their basic rights and humanity taken away to be under some government's thumb...Goverments and dictatorships might, but not regular folks...Now I do agree that we as a country need to abstain from voluntarily altering a country's internal affairs, but youy got to weigh that against a potential later threat to us as a country...
If we were most of the other countries in the UN, we could probably do the isolationist thing and pull it off....
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
Re: our role as the world's policeman has got to change a bit...
I'm glad you mentioned that. I ask this question all the time....
What gives us (the US) the right to interfere with any country's right to evolve and grow their economy and further solidify their sovreignty, just because we feel that they MAY eventually pose a threat (in some form) to us?
It's this attitude that causes us to work to undermine, and even threaten other countries. We're already trying to put pressure on India and Pakistan NOT to continue their nuclear testing. And we've threatened military actin against South Koren for having already developed ther own nukes.......
Who made us God on earth? And who determined that our 230 year-old Democracy and freedom of religon, is superior to any and all other governments and cultures?
Do I kill you, when you're an infant, because I'm scared that you'll grow up and be grown like me? No. But that's our mentality.
I'm glad you mentioned that. I ask this question all the time....
What gives us (the US) the right to interfere with any country's right to evolve and grow their economy and further solidify their sovreignty, just because we feel that they MAY eventually pose a threat (in some form) to us?
It's this attitude that causes us to work to undermine, and even threaten other countries. We're already trying to put pressure on India and Pakistan NOT to continue their nuclear testing. And we've threatened military actin against South Koren for having already developed ther own nukes.......
Who made us God on earth? And who determined that our 230 year-old Democracy and freedom of religon, is superior to any and all other governments and cultures?
Do I kill you, when you're an infant, because I'm scared that you'll grow up and be grown like me? No. But that's our mentality.
crazylegs
Da' Franchise...
nobody has that right...but???
I see where you're gcoming from, Taylor, but you've gotta look at our extended history in order to get some idea of where this type of thinking comes from...U.S. sovreignty has been an issue since WWII ended...Up until that point, we were about as isolationist as it could get....
U.S Policy changed after that, sometimes for the worse....
Nobody gives anybody the right to do that;That's how thew gulf war got started... ( Kuwait pretty much got annexed by iraq and folks in the region took exception to it...)
I think that the main thing that folks tend to forget is that some of these guys break the rules as far as what <b>they</b> do to other countries...The U.N. doesn't really enforce those things without U.S. support. I mean, think about it for a second; A terrorist attack on american soil kills american citizens and you can't get to them because they run to a country that willingly supports that type of activity...How would you handle that as a head of state???
Here's another example....The USS Cole incident happened in Yemeni territory and we couldn't take direct action without a directive from the U.N. the UN does nothing while these folks are free to do the same thing again to US citizens, or any other citzens for that matter that don't agree with their religious or political agenda.
Do I agree with interfering with another countries internal affairs? Hell no, but you've got two evils to deal with also...It's a no win situation....
I see where you're gcoming from, Taylor, but you've gotta look at our extended history in order to get some idea of where this type of thinking comes from...U.S. sovreignty has been an issue since WWII ended...Up until that point, we were about as isolationist as it could get....
U.S Policy changed after that, sometimes for the worse....
Nobody gives anybody the right to do that;That's how thew gulf war got started... ( Kuwait pretty much got annexed by iraq and folks in the region took exception to it...)
I think that the main thing that folks tend to forget is that some of these guys break the rules as far as what <b>they</b> do to other countries...The U.N. doesn't really enforce those things without U.S. support. I mean, think about it for a second; A terrorist attack on american soil kills american citizens and you can't get to them because they run to a country that willingly supports that type of activity...How would you handle that as a head of state???
Here's another example....The USS Cole incident happened in Yemeni territory and we couldn't take direct action without a directive from the U.N. the UN does nothing while these folks are free to do the same thing again to US citizens, or any other citzens for that matter that don't agree with their religious or political agenda.
Do I agree with interfering with another countries internal affairs? Hell no, but you've got two evils to deal with also...It's a no win situation....
GSUperTiger
The "Icon" of BCF
Well, traveling over the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge is never the same. Without seeing the Towers dominate the Manhattan skyline dims the once picturesque view. The same can be posted traveling on the NJ Turnpike. My local news is out of NYC, so the calamity is a constant reminder. I live my life as usual, and get on my knees each night and give praise.
crazylegs
Da' Franchise...
That's all you can do, GSU....
I just think that the world is alot less stable a place than it was even just a decade ago...When the cold war was still a part of what the world was, folks at least knew what line that both superpowers wouldn't cross...
The destabilization of one of this powers has created a political vaccum of sorts and some of the world's most unstable ideologies are moving into that vaccum by acuiring technology of all types...
In my opinion, I think that the U.N. needs to develop to the point where it doesn't have to depend on U.S. muscle to enforce it's policies. How long has Iraq been pulling the okie-doke on the UN as far as weapons inspections go??? Too long...
I just think that the world is alot less stable a place than it was even just a decade ago...When the cold war was still a part of what the world was, folks at least knew what line that both superpowers wouldn't cross...
The destabilization of one of this powers has created a political vaccum of sorts and some of the world's most unstable ideologies are moving into that vaccum by acuiring technology of all types...
In my opinion, I think that the U.N. needs to develop to the point where it doesn't have to depend on U.S. muscle to enforce it's policies. How long has Iraq been pulling the okie-doke on the UN as far as weapons inspections go??? Too long...