A&T tells Watkins: "take your money & empty promises and get to steppin


bornthrilla

Proud ***** of JSU
A&T backs off Division I-A move

2-20-03

By JOHN NEWSOM AND JEFF CARLTON, Staff Writers
News & Record


GREENSBORO -- N.C. A&T has decided not to make the jump to Division I-A in football, Chancellor James Renick said Wednesday.

Renick, who announced his decision during the university's board of trustees meeting, said the move would cost too many millions of dollars and distract A&T from its academic mission.

A&T's football team plays in Division I-AA, the NCAA's second-highest division, and its other teams play at the Division I level. If A&T had made the move, it would have been the nation's first historically black college to compete at college football's highest level.

"After careful consideration, I have decided, given the current state of the economy, that the fiscal demands of making this move are just too great," Renick told trustees.

"Our goal should be to excel in the MEAC, both academically and athletically," Renick added, referring to the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference. "We will not be declaring our intent to move toward Division I-A."

Trustees Chairman Ralph Shelton praised the decision.

"I certainly think he has done the right thing," said Shelton, a Greensboro business owner. "Academics is first on this campus. We don't want this NCAA thing to take precedence over academics."

John Petty, national president of A&T's alumni association, said alumni are less interested in playing at college football's highest level and more concerned about winning at whatever level the Aggies are playing.

"We're on target, we're still focused, and we're still going in a direction the chancellor wants to go," Petty said. "And I think the alumni are 100 percent behind this chancellor and where they're going."

Athletics director Charlie Davis had hoped to elevate the Aggie football program to the I-A level within five years of his October arrival at A&T. He said Wednesday he believes Renick is merely putting the project on hold, not shelving it for good.

"What I have to do is make this athletic department as strong as possible," Davis said, "so that when it is looked at again -- and it will be -- the shortfalls in this athletic department aren't things that will hinder (the university) from making what I think are positive decisions.

"It will be the right decision," Davis added. "I can dream all I want, but we've got work to be done."

A spokesman for Alabama financier Donald Watkins said Watkins will offer his resources to another historically black school serious about going to I-A.

Watkins said he would commit his financial expertise and resources if Renick declared to the NCAA that A&T would move up to Division I-A. Renick said Jan. 10 that he would not apply for I-A status before reviewing the findings of an internal feasibility study, which was completed in January.

"The A&T family decided not to be the trailblazer," said the spokesman, William Parker. "There will be a historically black college that goes to Division I-A, and North Carolina A&T decided not to be the school to break into the I-A family. That's OK. There will be other schools that pick up the baton."

But that task could be daunting. New NCAA regulations that take effect in August 2004 would require Division I football programs to:


Annually award 90 percent of the permissible maximum number of football scholarships, which would be 77 under current policy. The I-AA limit is 63 grants.

Play five home games against other I-A schools.

Sponsor at least 16 varsity sports, with at least six for men and eight for women. A&T has five men's teams and seven women's teams.

Average 15,000 in home football attendance. A&T averaged 16,798 fans in 2002.
These things cost money -- a lot of money -- and the university's internal study kept coming back to money.

A&T officials, based on its review of Troy State and Marshall and other former I-AA schools that play Division I-A football, estimated the annual athletics department budget would have to increase to approximately $18 million to sustain a I-A football program.

That money would be needed to pay for additional sports, more scholarships, extra coaches and athletics tutors, team travel and athletics department staff, among other things, said David Hoard, vice chancellor for development and university relations.

The university's current athletics budget is about $4.2 million.

A&T would need about another $30 million to $40 million to upgrade its stadium and athletics facilities to meet Division I standards.

A&T could have raised money by raising ticket prices, getting more individual gifts and sponsorships and signing television deals -- but not in this economy, Hoard said.

Another concern was that money-raising efforts for football might interfere with A&T's largest-ever campus fund drive, a $100 million effort that kicked off last fall.

"It's a hard decision," Hoard said of deciding not to move to Division I-A status. "But once you look at the numbers, it's not a hard decision."

For now, A&T will focus on improving its football team and raising more money for sports.

New head football coach George Small hopes to improve the Aggies' 4-8 record of a year ago. The new Victory Club, launched this fall, hopes to raise $2.5 million in three years for A&T's athletics program.

"You never say never," Renick said about future plans to move up to Division I--A. "But we're not planning on making that move at this time."
 



He's taking the wrong approach. The best bet is to have an entire conference make the move. It will require the administrators of the member schools to develop a cooperative ten year plan that takes into consideration facility upgrades, alumni fundraising/support, etc.
 
Why is it that this guy can't seem to get anyone to take his money? :confused: Bama State told him to step, he could not get MLB to sell him a franchise and now A & T has given him the boot.

Kinda makes you say hmmmmm....
 
As I read the article two questions come to mind:

1. Did Renick pull out or did Watkins?

I mean after completing the feasibility study, it would seem that next move would be to figure out where this money would come from. That is where Watkins would come in. Basically, you decide we now now need $50 million dollars to get this ball rolling, Mr. Watkins now where is your plan to show us how to get it? This article totally discounts Watkins. It makes it seem as it A&T was doing this all on their own and decided they couldn't do it.

2. Is Davis going to stay there?

I felt a very bruised ego in the article from Davis. Yes he said the right things, but it appeared he really wanted this to happen. In five years he wanted to be the big dog. Now he is faced with staying at A&T and that may not be so appealing.

I would mention a Watkins/Cole connection merely for conspiracy puposes but I don't want the ASU people hijacking this thread. :)
 
Cat Daddy - cause people realize that he really doesnt have any money...He has some, but then when it boils down to making something happen he will benefit from you going in the hole. He - and his new lil beeatch William Parker - really need to fade away and leave it alone.


I wonder what Donald is going to do next to get his name in the paper....hmmmmm
 
They would also have to go thru the trouble of hiring another coach. The one they have cant compete with the "elite" IAA programs, so it stands to reason that he wont be able to compete with D1 schools.

This is the right move for A&T.
 
Originally posted by majiksity
Cat Daddy - cause people realize that he really doesnt have any money...He has some, but then when it boils down to making something happen he will benefit from you going in the hole. He - and his new lil beeatch William Parker - really need to fade away and leave it alone.


I wonder what Donald is going to do next to get his name in the paper....hmmmmm

That's what I thought. He does not have the money he talks about having or as unknown1 stated, he does not want to really spend his money.
 
Watkins was an investment banker/lawyer for a pretty good while. He has always said he could "raise" the money through different corporate entities ( only some of them his on ). This was to be other peoples money as much as it was his own.
 
Dances, following your reasoning, does that mean if Watkins decided to come to JSU you all would have to get an entire new football program?

I do see anything there right now that you could salvage.
 
I think JSU is the only school that can make this transition very easily. We wont have to upgrade the stadium nor is attendance a problem. JSU should leave the sWAC and become a DIAA independant or go D1 anyway. Now that we have a coach, this might be a good move for JSU.
 



Personally, I think the only institution that would be successful in making the jump to Division I would be Florida A&M. FAMU is already playing Miami and University of Florida, both Div. IA schools. The next university that could possibly make the move in my opinion would be Southern University. Maybe Watkins should take a look at FAMU.
 
Thankyou Bulldog and Get Ready.

I think JSU is the only school that can make this transition very easily. We wont have to upgrade the stadium nor is attendance a problem. JSU should leave the sWAC and become a DIAA independant or go D1 anyway. Now that we have a coach, this might be a good move for JSU.

This is the age old topic that causes so much consternation in this forum. Although I don't think JSU is the ONLY school, I agree generally with that take and I have said the same thing umpteen times. My list was/is: FAMU, JSU, Southern and either TnState or A&T.

Personally, I think the only institution that would be successful in making the jump to Division I would be Florida A&M. FAMU is already playing Miami and University of Florida, both Div. IA schools. The next university that could possibly make the move in my opinion would be Southern University. Maybe Watkins should take a look at FAMU.

Again,, FAMU was/is part of my basic HBCU foundation that could/should move to D I. I don't think they are the only ones. See list above.
 
It would cost FAMU and SU too much money to upgrade their subpar stadiums. JSU already plays in the best HBCU stadium, we already have the numbers, we now have the coaching staff, we have outgrown our conference, and its time for us to move on. Maybe we shoud seriously take a look at this move.
 
Originally posted by bornthrilla
Too bad nobody else in the free world agrees with you.

Just be happy your smalltime school decided to forget this nonsense. According to you, NCAT&TSU hired a c**n coach that cant help compete "elite" D1AA schools, you know AT&T has no chance of competing against D1 schools.

Some schools progress, others stay in the same place.
 
According to the majority of lobo fans, JSU hired the anti-christ as your head coach, who will leave a "terrible, stained mak on JSU history."

Plus, you don't even have your own stadium. You are just praying to sweet Jesus that the kind folks of Mississippi allow you the keep renting Klan Memorial.

Trsut me: Greensboro is a whole lot further away from Alabama than Jackson is. If Watkins thought JSU had a snowball's chance in hell of making this move he would have just looked around and already brought his proposal to you.

Sorry, but he did his research and concluded the BCF program which had the best chance of pulling this off was A&T. He has said as much on numerous occassions.

Unfortunely for him, we chose not to go that direction at this time. But hey, he can always try JSU right?


.


.
*crickets*

.



.
right?
 
I never said a word about Watkins.....did I? Im saying that JSU can make this move....without some pimp.

We dont have a high school stadium like AT&T so we wouldnt have to spend 100 of millions trying to upgrade the stadium. You conveniently neglected to comment on your new coaching staff...and why arent you answering my questions on the smack board?
 
Leaks in the Dike!

aaaaaaaah!!! we are making progress! at least now HBCU mugz are at least CONSIDERING making the move. That HBCUs should make the move has long been my contension and I have been BLASTED many times on this forum for being of that opinion. It's good to finally see others warming up to the idea! OUTSTANDING. BOUT FUGGIN TIME. FAMU, JSU, TnState, SU/NCA&T to D IA I say. :headphone :cool:
 
The truth is in here somewhere

<font color=red>We dont have a</font> high school <font color=red>stadium like A</font>T<font color=red>&T so we would</font>nt<font color=red> have to spend 100 of millions trying to build the stadium.</font>quote]
 
Back
Top