A question about tithing
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Dr H.. said:
Tithing is mandated...or GIVING?
GramFan said:
Agreed,
Brother I?m a Christian, physician/scientist by vocation, and a Truth seeker by nature.
I approach everything in search for the Truth Whatever it may be.
Even if the Truth goes against what I was taught and everything I?ve known
I can be taught and I can humbly learn. I could care less about winning some Internet debate.
The Bible is a collection of books, not an opinionated feeling like going to a state fair or boycotting, it can be read and discussed without the fear that
One may have been long, doing something or understanding wrong, we all make mistakes, and God will forgive.
So I posted when I saw some erroneous interpretations of biblical teachings.
Let?s us all go with the Bible and put personal beliefs, traditions aside
We may learn from each other, but be ready.
My questions are on the table.
Dr H..
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When reading the NT you have to carefully consider the contextual meaning and use of the word law, the meaning can and often is applied inaccurate, arbitrary, and unscriptural.
The word ?law? has several meanings in the New Testament. The law can mean the Decalogue or Ten Commandments (Rom. 13:8; 7:7). It can also refer to an individual law (Rom. 7:2, 3). It can be defined to the divine revelation or to the whole Old Testament.
The Hebrews writer uses law to denote the ceremonial law (Heb. 9:22; 10:1). Paul used the word law to denote the legal indictment or sentence of death that the law brings (Gal. 2:19; Rom. 7:4). Paul can say that believers are ?dead to the law? as a legal sentence of death and then, in the same epistle, urge believers to obey the law as a guide for godly living and sanctification (Rom. 13:8-10; Gal. 5:14, 19-21).
The OT [10 Commandments] laws [Ceremonial, Judicial & Moral} The that apply to us are the one that gives us directions on man's relationship with each othere and mans relationship with God. The ceremonial laws were done away with, nailed to the cross.
However, Gal. 6:2 tells us to:
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
Christ, have laws - the NT.
You also have to keep in mind that there were hundreds if not thousands of OT Laws.
Dr. H
Very Good,
You seem to be someone who understands ?contextual meaning?
When reading the OT you have to carefully consider the ?contextual meaning? and use of the word tithe, the meaning can and often is applied inaccurate, arbitrary, and unscriptural.
What God says to Christians about financial giving is different than what He said to the Jews of the Old Testament
You said, ?The ceremonial laws were done away with, nailed to the cross.?
So I guess this means you believe tithing is not a ceremonial laws and is still viable today.
We are no longer bound by the tenets of the Law (Gal 3:25). We are justified by faith, not by works of the Law (Romans 3:28). We are redeemed from the curse of the Law (Galatians 3:13).
Seems not be any specifications of what laws it?s talking about.
I challenge you to give me the Bible reference for what kind of law is tithing and which laws are done away with and which are not.
But before you do that,
Do you really know what tithing was in the BIBLE
Explain why:
1. Abraham never tithed on his own personal property or livestock.
2. Jacob wouldn?t tithe until God blessed him first.
3. Only Levite priests could collect tithes, and there are no Levite priests today.
4. Only food products from the land were tithable.
5. Money was never a titheable commodity.
6. Christian converts were never asked to tithe anything to the Church.
7. Tithing in the Church first appears centuries after completion of the Bible.
Unless we understand what parts of God?s Word are written to Jews, what parts are written to Gentiles, and what parts are written to Christians, we can never understand nor apply its truths in our daily lives.
All this talk about Laws.
By the way here is what Paul said about the Laws (and he didn?t give any specifications to the types of laws he was referring to)
Paul says in Galatians:
2:16, "?by the works of the law shall no man be justified."
2:21, "?if righteousness comes by the Law, then Christ has died in vain."
3:10-11, "All who rely on observing the Law are under a curse? Clearly no one is justified before God, by the Law."
3:13, "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law."
3:25, "Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the Law."
5:4, "You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen from Grace."
Very Good,
You seem to be someone who understands ?contextual meaning?
When reading the OT you have to carefully consider the ?contextual meaning? and use of the word tithe, the meaning can and often is applied inaccurate, arbitrary, and unscriptural.
What God says to Christians about financial giving is different than what He said to the Jews of the Old Testament
You said, ?The ceremonial laws were done away with, nailed to the cross.?
So I guess this means you believe tithing is not a ceremonial laws and is still viable today.
We are no longer bound by the tenets of the Law (Gal 3:25). We are justified by faith, not by works of the Law (Romans 3:28). We are redeemed from the curse of the Law (Galatians 3:13).
Seems not be any specifications of what laws it?s talking about.
I challenge you to give me the Bible reference for what kind of law is tithing and which laws are done away with and which are not.
But before you do that,
Do you really know what tithing was in the BIBLE
Explain why:
1. Abraham never tithed on his own personal property or livestock.
2. Jacob wouldn?t tithe until God blessed him first.
3. Only Levite priests could collect tithes, and there are no Levite priests today.
4. Only food products from the land were tithable.
5. Money was never a titheable commodity.
6. Christian converts were never asked to tithe anything to the Church.
7. Tithing in the Church first appears centuries after completion of the Bible.
Unless we understand what parts of God?s Word are written to Jews, what parts are written to Gentiles, and what parts are written to Christians, we can never understand nor apply its truths in our daily lives.
All this talk about Laws.
By the way here is what Paul said about the Laws (and he didn?t give any specifications to the types of laws he was referring to)
Paul says in Galatians:
2:16, "?by the works of the law shall no man be justified."
2:21, "?if righteousness comes by the Law, then Christ has died in vain."
3:10-11, "All who rely on observing the Law are under a curse? Clearly no one is justified before God, by the Law."
3:13, "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law."
3:25, "Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the Law."
5:4, "You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen from Grace."
SLT,
I have no questions about giving.
I do that freely and cheerfully.
I question the motives, understanding, and right division of God?s Word of people
Who believe tithing is not only possible, but also a law for today?s church.
People are suffering at epidemic proportions from people who corrupt God?s Word
For their insatiable lust!
Did you know that tithing was not the 1st tenth, but the last ?tenth, tenth??
Did you know there are no more Levites to whom to give the tithe.
Did you know that Jesus said HE came to fulfill the law, all laws ceremonial or otherwise?
Probably not, because it wouldn?t have been earthly profitable to teach you that.
Read it for yourself, and in all your getting, get an Understanding.
I have no questions about giving.
I do that freely and cheerfully.
I question the motives, understanding, and right division of God?s Word of people
Who believe tithing is not only possible, but also a law for today?s church.
People are suffering at epidemic proportions from people who corrupt God?s Word
For their insatiable lust!
Did you know that tithing was not the 1st tenth, but the last ?tenth, tenth??
Did you know there are no more Levites to whom to give the tithe.
Did you know that Jesus said HE came to fulfill the law, all laws ceremonial or otherwise?
Probably not, because it wouldn?t have been earthly profitable to teach you that.
Read it for yourself, and in all your getting, get an Understanding.
BLAQUE PRINCE
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SLT said:
I would not trivialize the discussion like that. No one is saying we should not give.
BLAQUE PRINCE
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You are the one that trivialized it 
The discussion is more that just people trying to get out of giving which is what you are boiling it down to. God has outlined some specific things when it comes to giving and it doesn't hurt to get to the truth of the matter.
You need to first understand what God has commanded before you JUST DO IT! *smh* Thats the problem with to many people now. You put God in a sentence and people automaticaly turn off their own thought process and do whateber they are told be it right or wrong.
The discussion is more that just people trying to get out of giving which is what you are boiling it down to. God has outlined some specific things when it comes to giving and it doesn't hurt to get to the truth of the matter. You need to first understand what God has commanded before you JUST DO IT! *smh* Thats the problem with to many people now. You put God in a sentence and people automaticaly turn off their own thought process and do whateber they are told be it right or wrong.
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