2024 Presidential Election


So now that the repubs control everything all the way to the highest court, will they stay in power from now on? I see them changing laws and redrawing districts and removing voter locations to places less favorable to them.The people have no idea what they have done. tRump gutted a deferal agency the last time he was in office because they pissed him off, I personally now some that was in that agency over 35 years through a few presidents and he was fired, his boss was fired and several staff. This dude is going to destroy everything he doesn't like, let his billionaire friends pollute ocenans and ruin state parks for their greed and eeoc is about to be toast. His followers will even be ok when his administration ruins education by making you have to pay for school even all the way down to elementary school. He will put in his voucher program and give the best money to the lobbyists that paid the most money to charge an arm and a leg for their schools. They are going to really change the wealth divide because what is a $5,000 voucher going to do if a decent middle school will cost you 30,000? Wait until the greedy wall street people that put him in office convince him to privatize social security and people who don't understand markets will lose everything. He has moved the needle towards the vision of the WEF lead by a dude that wasn't even elected Klaus Schwab who is trying to make the world a place where you own nothing and only the elites own everything and you will like it. The people that put this crook in office have no idea how big this is. smh
 



So now that the repubs control everything all the way to the highest court, will they stay in power from now on? I see them changing laws and redrawing districts and removing voter locations to places less favorable to them.The people have no idea what they have done. tRump gutted a deferal agency the last time he was in office because they pissed him off, I personally now some that was in that agency over 35 years through a few presidents and he was fired, his boss was fired and several staff. This dude is going to destroy everything he doesn't like, let his billionaire friends pollute ocenans and ruin state parks for their greed and eeoc is about to be toast. His followers will even be ok when his administration ruins education by making you have to pay for school even all the way down to elementary school. He will put in his voucher program and give the best money to the lobbyists that paid the most money to charge an arm and a leg for their schools. They are going to really change the wealth divide because what is a $5,000 voucher going to do if a decent middle school will cost you 30,000? Wait until the greedy wall street people that put him in office convince him to privatize social security and people who don't understand markets will lose everything. He has moved the needle towards the vision of the WEF lead by a dude that wasn't even elected Klaus Schwab who is trying to make the world a place where you own nothing and only the elites own everything and you will like it. The people that put this crook in office have no idea how big this is. smh
The poor, uneducated and the bro coalition hoping to get rich on a wing and prayer will suffer greatly. Those who are self loathers and don't have a hustle till I die mentality will fall be the waste side. Latino's don't value education. Especially the first generation ones in this country and barely the 2nd generation. They think working low skill jobs provide prosperity. They also live in house holds with two or three generations so they think that is luxury.
 
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I've been seeing this "you're on your own" take a lot online and laughing because threats imply something is actually being taken away. What those people actually doing in the first place besides voting Democrat? They weren't out protesting immigration policy or the war or anything else they didn't think affected them directly. People are rightfully angry, but it's largely a bunch of people who weren't engaging in any meaningful action now being really loud about how they won't engage in any meaningful action.
Those are the people who aren't actively politically other than on Election Day to show off their "I voted" sticker on social media.
 
38:30 is a lesson

Brave, this is exactly why I wrote in another post why I don't want to hear, in isolation, anything about how f-upped black folks are anymore. A lot of latin folks and white women are far more f-upped.

The only good out of this past election is now everything has been exposed. It is clear where everyone stands.

At the end of the day, white women and want-to-be-white latin folks chose white supremacy.

The ten to twenty percent of dumbass black folks we already knew existed has been confirmed.

There is no need for speculation anymore.
 
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Brave, this is exactly why I wrote in another post why I don't want to hear, in isolation, anything about how f-upped black folks are anymore. A lot of latin folks and white women are far more f-upped.

The only good out of this past election is now everything has been exposed. It is clear where everyone stands.

At the end of the day, white women and want-to-be-white latin folks chose white supremacy.

The ten to twenty percent of dumbass black folks we already new existed has been confirmed.

There is no need for speculation anymore.
I just blocked a brotha I've known since high school because of the CONSTANT and I mean CONSTANT pro trump and anti Kamala stuff he has posted on FB over the last several weeks. Unbelievable.
 
Nobody or nothing got "exposed" during this election except to the uneducated that It's nearly impossible to become president immediately after being in office or part of the current make up. Voters won't separate you from your administration.

Harris being part of an administration that had declined in approval ratings among the electorate gave her no shot to win despite raising $1 billion in campaign dollars.

The two-party system has predictable trends. Voters don't have options so they can only "punish" whichever party in power caused the biggest "problem" for them. For Trump, it was COVID. For Biden/Harris, it was the economy.
 
Nobody or nothing got "exposed" during this election except to the uneducated that It's nearly impossible to become president immediately after being in office or part of the current make up. Voters won't separate you from your administration.

Harris being part of an administration that had declined in approval ratings among the electorate gave her no shot to win despite raising $1 billion in campaign dollars.

The two-party system has predictable trends. Voters don't have options so they can only "punish" whichever party in power caused the biggest "problem" for them. For Trump, it was COVID. For Biden/Harris, it was the economy.
SMH....when you went in to vote, if you voted, did you go in to punish or vote in what you believed was your best interest?
 
If what I'm saying isn't true, why did Trump win the popular vote, something a republican candidate for POTUS hasn't done in in 20 years?
So deflection is your answer to my very specific question directed very intentionally to you?

Let me try this again, your response may actually serve to help me see something I don't.

When you posted the following, days ago, were you talking about your voting interest or your intent on retribution?

For me, it's the economy, cost of living, etc.?
 
So deflection is your answer to my very specific question directed very intentionally to you?

Let me try this again, your response may actually serve to help me see something I don't.

When you posted the following, days ago, were you talking about your voting interest or your intent on retribution?
I framed that statement (and thread) in response to what Harris/Walz and Trump/Vance pitched as their top campaign issues. I voted for Harris because I had no desire to see Trump as POTUS. My decision wasn't motivated by reproductive rights or immigration, though both candidates had prioritized those issues.

But, I could understand why other voters across all demographics (and voter action and behavior bore that out) would choose Trump based on the reasons I mentioned before. Voters did punish the Biden/Harris administration -- fair or not -- for the economy just like voters punished Trump for bungling the COVID response in 2020.

The majority of voters will choose a candidate based on how they believe that person will impact their personal circumstances.
 
There was a primary and Biden beat the only two guys that ran.
Where was Gavin at that time?

It was the guys with the big money that suddenly in June 2024 wanted Biden gone. NONE of them had the BALLS to say they wanted Gavin or Shapiro publicly.

It was Harris with the money they already raised or start at ground ZERO in August with a white guy. Along with dealing with the wrath of black women.

Where were all those big donors at? The moment that primary in August was over-they should have made it rain on the new person and been set and ready to go.

Democrats have themselves to blame. Whoever they really wanted should have ran and been SUPPORTED during the primaries in 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
WE DIDNT PICK KAMALA THO, DEMOCRAT LEADERS DID.
 
So now that the repubs control everything all the way to the highest court, will they stay in power from now on? I see them changing laws and redrawing districts and removing voter locations to places less favorable to them.The people have no idea what they have done. tRump gutted a deferal agency the last time he was in office because they pissed him off, I personally now some that was in that agency over 35 years through a few presidents and he was fired, his boss was fired and several staff. This dude is going to destroy everything he doesn't like, let his billionaire friends pollute ocenans and ruin state parks for their greed and eeoc is about to be toast. His followers will even be ok when his administration ruins education by making you have to pay for school even all the way down to elementary school. He will put in his voucher program and give the best money to the lobbyists that paid the most money to charge an arm and a leg for their schools. They are going to really change the wealth divide because what is a $5,000 voucher going to do if a decent middle school will cost you 30,000? Wait until the greedy wall street people that put him in office convince him to privatize social security and people who don't understand markets will lose everything. He has moved the needle towards the vision of the WEF lead by a dude that wasn't even elected Klaus Schwab who is trying to make the world a place where you own nothing and only the elites own everything and you will like it. The people that put this crook in office have no idea how big this is. smh
The dude made it clear that he has no intention on ever leaving the white house. He wasn't playing about that at all. They're going to gut the public education system, they will make abortion illegal nationwide, they will get rid of Obamacare, give cops full immunity, implement stop and frisk nationwide... these are just the things that he's openly admitted. This is why I said when Biden dropped out and they opted to run Kamala that we were going to be screwed. He'll also add 3 more Maga people to the supreme court.

Ukraine is fucked, he'll cut that aid off immediately and Russia will be able to do what they want. And ironically, the day after he wins, Israel all of a sudden is willing to end the war in Gaza. What Republicans did, was play the hell out of Democrats all the way around. That war in Israel is a large reason why people didn't support Kamala. I'm not surprised in the least bit though... this country is nowhere near in a position where a woman is going to run against a white man and win, especially a black woman.

Even if they do manage to get him out in 2028, the damage that he'll do between January and 4 years from now will likely never be undone. He just gave white supremacy the OK as being acceptable.
 
Trump will go unchecked. Make sure you Trump supporters clap with glee as the poor in our community will suffer more than ever in history. The ACA is not the best but it has allowed many to be treated without waiting until death at the ER. It is what it is. Sometimes in life it's not about us and our pockets. It's about those who don't have the means to help themselves and the average American doesn't have that. Oh well. It is what it is.

I am not the enemy my brother and I respect you, but we all don’t think or live alike. That’s just what it is. I come from the good ole “if a man doesn’t work he won’t eat” school. Men were being taught to be men, and women were being taught to be women in my school & home. It was ok for all Men to play sports vs men, and women to play women. The Dems have somehow made our people believe that the schools that taught those lessons are wrong. At the end of the day, VP Harris got her arse blown away because the game plan was all wrong. To be honest, I feel sorry for her because it was her donkey party that set her up for a beatdown. This is a wake up call for the Dems. The Party needs to regroup, and figure out a way to appeal to the folks in America who have no problem with teaching girls to grow up to be ladies and boys to men. Also, Tampon Tim would have done more for the 🏳️‍🌈 community than the poor black community on any given day.

If that vicious beating on Tuesday doesn’t wake up the Dems, then a new party must emerge because the Dems won’t win the next election if they don’t change up their priorities.

While many black folks who can’t step out of the Democratic Box that Charlie created are disappointed in how many black voters expressed their support for the Republican candidate, (and Trump isn’t a real Republican any damn way), I am on the side of educated brothers who are proud that we had a percentage of us who stood up and let the Dems know that they better stop taking advantage of the Black male vote and start moving us up on their agenda.
 
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WE DIDNT PICK KAMALA THO, DEMOCRAT LEADERS DID.
Even if they do manage to get him out in 2028, the damage that he'll do between January and 4 years from now will likely never be undone. He just gave white supremacy the OK as being acceptable.
Democrats can disrupt in 2 years with the midterm elections.

This has been a shit show from the start. The way the Democratic Party political strategists ran this election cycle (from the time Biden took office) would have gotten them an F in an Intro. to Political Science class. While Trump was spreading his lies, The Dems did basically nothing to spread the truth (who was really behind the stimulus checks, covid response, help for farmers, funding for HBCUs, crime, unemployment, the border, etc.). For some very strange reason, they gave the American people way more credit than we deserved in thinking we would be able to see through Trump's BS on our own. They appealed to the logic of the masses, A HUGE MISTAKE. I still refuse to believe the strategists were this stupid. There has to be something else we are missing, some back room deal or something.
 
If what I'm saying isn't true, why did Trump win the popular vote, something a republican candidate for POTUS hasn't done in in 20 years?

Agreed.


When all the votes have been counted, (Nevada was just officially called for Trump this morning and Arizona is at 82% reporting), the Dems better wake up or a losing streak will start in the next election. They can easily join the history books of What Used To Be a Major Party if another defeat happens to take place in the next Presidential Election. Have the Dems lost twice before and still manage to pull of a victory? Yes. But the difference now if the fact that two previous defeats have come to the hands of a guy like Trump! A random rich guy/non politician who is former Democrat turned Republican that is a convicted felon that did better in his 3rd run for President!!! That really says a lot about this country and just how seriously screwed up the Democratic Party is right now.

2,302,237 is the running number of folks who didn’t vote Republican & Democrat in this election. This is the perfect time for two leaders of either the Independence, Liberation or Green Parties to come together with an appealing message/proposal/strategic plan to create a new Party. History shows that times like this is when new parties emerge when they take those steps
 
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Democrats can disrupt in 2 years with the midterm elections.

This has been a shit show from the start. The way the Democratic Party political strategists ran this election cycle (from the time Biden took office) would have gotten them an F in an Intro. to Political Science class. While Trump was spreading his lies, The Dems did basically nothing to spread the truth (who was really behind the stimulus checks, covid response, help for farmers, funding for HBCUs, crime, unemployment, the border, etc.). For some very strange reason, they gave the American people way more credit than we deserved in thinking we would be able to see through Trump's BS on our own. They appealed to the logic of the masses, A HUGE MISTAKE. I still refuse to believe the strategists were this stupid. There has to be something else we are missing, some back room deal or something.

Biden fucked over the party by not dropping out sooner. Pelosi and Obama were upset with him over it because they knew Kamala wasn't a strong candidate.

View: https://publish.twitter.com/?url=https://twitter.com/RayTheGrouch/status/1854183650088071624#
 
Biden fucked over the party by not dropping out sooner. Pelosi and Obama were upset with him over it because they knew Kamala wasn't a strong candidate.

View: https://publish.twitter.com/?url=https://twitter.com/RayTheGrouch/status/1854183650088071624#
In all fairness remember I did start a thread saying we were done when they selected her. Oh well the bro coalition and the immigrants better be ready. I will definitely be laughing at them the next four years. When Obamacare is cut those poor broke back saltines will be dieing in record numbers. They already the fastest dieing group in America.
 
Democrats can disrupt in 2 years with the midterm elections.

This has been a shit show from the start. The way the Democratic Party political strategists ran this election cycle (from the time Biden took office) would have gotten them an F in an Intro. to Political Science class. While Trump was spreading his lies, The Dems did basically nothing to spread the truth (who was really behind the stimulus checks, covid response, help for farmers, funding for HBCUs, crime, unemployment, the border, etc.). For some very strange reason, they gave the American people way more credit than we deserved in thinking we would be able to see through Trump's BS on our own. They appealed to the logic of the masses, A HUGE MISTAKE. I still refuse to believe the strategists were this stupid. There has to be something else we are missing, some back room deal or something.
You could not have said it any better. The masses have way too many lies to filter through these days to take a chance on their discernment.
 
Biden fucked over the party by not dropping out sooner. Pelosi and Obama were upset with him over it because they knew Kamala wasn't a strong candidate.

View: https://publish.twitter.com/?url=https://twitter.com/RayTheGrouch/status/1854183650088071624#

So, who was a good candidate?

In all fairness remember I did start a thread saying we were done when they selected her. Oh well the bro coalition and the immigrants better be ready. I will definitely be laughing at them the next four years. When Obamacare is cut those poor broke back saltines will be dieing in record numbers. They already the fastest dieing group in America.

I think folks just aren't facing realities about this country. The repubs ran on throwing folks out of the country, made up crime, and anti-trans and won. Seems most folks vote to punish people they don't like. Even if it's their own. They'll believe anything you tell them if they got it in for folks...like Haitians eating pets, lol.
 
So, who was a good candidate?



I think folks just aren't facing realities about this country. The repubs ran on throwing folks out of the country, made up crime, and anti-trans and won. Seems most folks vote to punish people they don't like. Even if it's their own. They'll believe anything you tell them if they got it in for folks...like Haitians eating pets, lol.
I agree. I saw a thing on Roland Martin where two Mexican broads said their dad was deported under Trump and it tore their family apart and haven't seen him in 7 years yet they still voted for Trump 😂 I was like how dumb and brainwashed can you be
 
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