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Herbert77060 said:
Until Black folk start liking Black folk, sustained progress for the masses is not possible and will not happen. We don't even like living among each other.

Prove me wrong.
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Herbert, are you sure you want to open that door? LOL!! I cannot prove you wrong, and I am not going to try. Lord knows I know where you are coming from and I agree with you. But I also understand that there are many sides to this narrative.
 
TSU/BAMA said:
Herbert, are you sure you want to open that door? LOL!! I cannot prove you wrong, and I am not going to try. Lord knows I know where you are coming from and I agree with you. But I also understand that there are many sides to this narrative.
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Consider the can of worms opened.
 
Here's the problem. Black folks find it hard to draw the line between classes because we don't want to be considered "sellouts" or something of the sort. White folks don't care nothin about that. The upper, upper-middle and even middle classes have no problem separating themselves from the lower class. And that's even if it's family. It's the reason so many black people move to the suburbs when they get money. Why? Because if you came from less, a lot of the folks that didn't upgrade their lives will have disdain towards you or even rob you if you went back to that same area you grew up in.

If we're being real, the lower class of our culture defines WAY more of the trends of how we live than they should lol. Gangster music is probably the most popular genre of entertainment amongst those of us that are under 40. Hood life. The trenches. It's so prevalent that in Atlanta, even the suburban kids that grow up in a 2 parent, married household with 2 college grad parents...inside of a 500k+ house feel the need to be "in the streets." But, if you speak out against that type of shit, you're a sell-out.

Now, thanks to social media, you have black men vs black women. There was so much nonsense about that NBA dude and Meg the Stallion on my timeline that I've just been away from social media for like 3 days now. Women posting topics using it as an example of how black men ain't shit. Men celebrating that he tossed a "hoe" back to the streets. I'm talkin about it had black social media in a choke hold as if they actually knew those folks.

This kinda resonates with me just because of the way I was raised and how my family was. All my family grew up in the projects on my mom's side. I'm talkin like nearly 3 generations. When she married my pops and left the pj's to buy a house, that family relationship was destroyed. They didn't really fool with her because she left and she didn't really let us go over there with them because, well, it was the projects. They all heard all the gunshots and saw all the dope being sold, but they hated her for leaving that environment. She, on the other hand, got introduced to Jesus and to me it felt like she started judging them based on things like, they drink or they smoke weed. It turned into a life long conflict that neither side would back down on.

There's just way too many laws and social experiments that were performed on black people here. Our culture is in disarray purposely. And, as long as we're here, I'm not sure that'll ever be allowed to be resolved. Too many dynamics...I mean we're really just now trying to heal from colorism. The 90's was the era of the "African booty scratcher" for any of us that were darkskinned. And it was us doing it.
 
unknown1 said:
Here's the problem. Black folks find it hard to draw the line between classes because we don't want to be considered "sellouts" or something of the sort. White folks don't care nothin about that. The upper, upper-middle and even middle classes have no problem separating themselves from the lower class. And that's even if it's family. It's the reason so many black people move to the suburbs when they get money. Why? Because if you came from less, a lot of the folks that didn't upgrade their lives will have disdain towards you or even rob you if you went back to that same area you grew up in.

If we're being real, the lower class of our culture defines WAY more of the trends of how we live than they should lol. Gangster music is probably the most popular genre of entertainment amongst those of us that are under 40. Hood life. The trenches. It's so prevalent that in Atlanta, even the suburban kids that grow up in a 2 parent, married household with 2 college grad parents...inside of a 500k+ house feel the need to be "in the streets." But, if you speak out against that type of shit, you're a sell-out.

Now, thanks to social media, you have black men vs black women. There was so much nonsense about that NBA dude and Meg the Stallion on my timeline that I've just been away from social media for like 3 days now. Women posting topics using it as an example of how black men ain't shit. Men celebrating that he tossed a "hoe" back to the streets. I'm talkin about it had black social media in a choke hold as if they actually knew those folks.

This kinda resonates with me just because of the way I was raised and how my family was. All my family grew up in the projects on my mom's side. I'm talkin like nearly 3 generations. When she married my pops and left the pj's to buy a house, that family relationship was destroyed. They didn't really fool with her because she left and she didn't really let us go over there with them because, well, it was the projects. They all heard all the gunshots and saw all the dope being sold, but they hated her for leaving that environment. She, on the other hand, got introduced to Jesus and to me it felt like she started judging them based on things like, they drink or they smoke weed. It turned into a life long conflict that neither side would back down on.

There's just way too many laws and social experiments that were performed on black people here. Our culture is in disarray purposely. And, as long as we're here, I'm not sure that'll ever be allowed to be resolved. Too many dynamics...I mean we're really just now trying to heal from colorism. The 90's was the era of the "African booty scratcher" for any of us that were darkskinned. And it was us doing it.
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Even among those who are "upwardly mobile" we do not like each other. We relish in being the only ones in our neighborhood or work places or educational arenas. We wear it like a badge of honor.
 
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unknown1 said:
Here's the problem. Black folks find it hard to draw the line between classes because we don't want to be considered "sellouts" or something of the sort. White folks don't care nothin about that. The upper, upper-middle and even middle classes have no problem separating themselves from the lower class. And that's even if it's family. It's the reason so many black people move to the suburbs when they get money. Why? Because if you came from less, a lot of the folks that didn't upgrade their lives will have disdain towards you or even rob you if you went back to that same area you grew up in.

If we're being real, the lower class of our culture defines WAY more of the trends of how we live than they should lol. Gangster music is probably the most popular genre of entertainment amongst those of us that are under 40. Hood life. The trenches. It's so prevalent that in Atlanta, even the suburban kids that grow up in a 2 parent, married household with 2 college grad parents...inside of a 500k+ house feel the need to be "in the streets." But, if you speak out against that type of shit, you're a sell-out.

Now, thanks to social media, you have black men vs black women. There was so much nonsense about that NBA dude and Meg the Stallion on my timeline that I've just been away from social media for like 3 days now. Women posting topics using it as an example of how black men ain't shit. Men celebrating that he tossed a "hoe" back to the streets. I'm talkin about it had black social media in a choke hold as if they actually knew those folks.

This kinda resonates with me just because of the way I was raised and how my family was. All my family grew up in the projects on my mom's side. I'm talkin like nearly 3 generations. When she married my pops and left the pj's to buy a house, that family relationship was destroyed. They didn't really fool with her because she left and she didn't really let us go over there with them because, well, it was the projects. They all heard all the gunshots and saw all the dope being sold, but they hated her for leaving that environment. She, on the other hand, got introduced to Jesus and to me it felt like she started judging them based on things like, they drink or they smoke weed. It turned into a life long conflict that neither side would back down on.

There's just way too many laws and social experiments that were performed on black people here. Our culture is in disarray purposely. And, as long as we're here, I'm not sure that'll ever be allowed to be resolved. Too many dynamics...I mean we're really just now trying to heal from colorism. The 90's was the era of the "African booty scratcher" for any of us that were darkskinned. And it was us doing it.
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Can't lie bruh you touched a lot of good points
 
Herbert77060 said:
Until Black folk start liking Black folk, sustained progress for the masses is not possible and will not happen. We don't even like living among each other.

Prove me wrong.
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I cannot prove you wrong.

Ebony magazine had an article every so often on Voices from the Past. They would include the words of history makers like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Mary McCleod Bethune. However thanks to the Internet, we can hear what many said when we want in order to learn important lessons. The recently passed Bob Law, who was the host of Night Talk, is one whose words we should hear. Yet, there will be some or more of us who will fight me on my suggestion.

Again I cannot prove you wrong.
 
unknown1 said:
There's just way too many laws and social experiments that were performed on black people here. Our culture is in disarray purposely. And, as long as we're here, I'm not sure that'll ever be allowed to be resolved. Too many dynamics...I mean we're really just now trying to heal from colorism.
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Externally, I whole heartedly agree ^^^^.

Internally, the main problem is a lot of black folks don't believe in accountability, that is across class lines.

Unfortunately, a good number of the ones that don't, a subculture not a class, despises every one black that does. Just as unfortunate, a good number of black folks that do believe in accountability, from all classes, equally despise the ones that don't. With good reason, all too often.

Sorting out the problem is nearly impossible in our present environment because too many external factors are drivers, sustainers and impediments.

We are a people without a country, meaning we don't have as much say or sway as we like to fool ourselves into thinking. Policies and laws are enacted or stripped away with little care for how they impact our communities, with the exception of those intentionally implemented to harm.

My suggestion is to enjoy your best life folks. Life is short, for real! Indiscriminately, but wisely, help out when and where you can, drop seeds of love as a matter of habit and safeguard your sanity as if life itself depends on it.
 



unknown1 said:
Here's the problem. Black folks find it hard to draw the line between classes because we don't want to be considered "sellouts" or something of the sort. White folks don't care nothin about that. The upper, upper-middle and even middle classes have no problem separating themselves from the lower class. And that's even if it's family. It's the reason so many black people move to the suburbs when they get money. Why? Because if you came from less, a lot of the folks that didn't upgrade their lives will have disdain towards you or even rob you if you went back to that same area you grew up in.

If we're being real, the lower class of our culture defines WAY more of the trends of how we live than they should lol. Gangster music is probably the most popular genre of entertainment amongst those of us that are under 40. Hood life. The trenches. It's so prevalent that in Atlanta, even the suburban kids that grow up in a 2 parent, married household with 2 college grad parents...inside of a 500k+ house feel the need to be "in the streets." But, if you speak out against that type of shit, you're a sell-out.

Now, thanks to social media, you have black men vs black women. There was so much nonsense about that NBA dude and Meg the Stallion on my timeline that I've just been away from social media for like 3 days now. Women posting topics using it as an example of how black men ain't shit. Men celebrating that he tossed a "hoe" back to the streets. I'm talkin about it had black social media in a choke hold as if they actually knew those folks.

This kinda resonates with me just because of the way I was raised and how my family was. All my family grew up in the projects on my mom's side. I'm talkin like nearly 3 generations. When she married my pops and left the pj's to buy a house, that family relationship was destroyed. They didn't really fool with her because she left and she didn't really let us go over there with them because, well, it was the projects. They all heard all the gunshots and saw all the dope being sold, but they hated her for leaving that environment. She, on the other hand, got introduced to Jesus and to me it felt like she started judging them based on things like, they drink or they smoke weed. It turned into a life long conflict that neither side would back down on.

There's just way too many laws and social experiments that were performed on black people here. Our culture is in disarray purposely. And, as long as we're here, I'm not sure that'll ever be allowed to be resolved. Too many dynamics...I mean we're really just now trying to heal from colorism. The 90's was the era of the "African booty scratcher" for any of us that were darkskinned. And it was us doing it.
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Do you actually think that black people, in the USA, have one culture?

While there maybe similarities between the different cultures (within the black population), it is my opinion that there is no single culture or standard of what being black is. I believe that is part of the problem, for some black people, is that they feel like that they have to act a certain way to be consider "black", even it means behaving in a way that is self destructive.
 
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ECSU_NCCU_Christopher said:
Do you actually think that black people, in the USA, have one culture?

While there maybe similarities between the different cultures (within the black population), it is my opinion that there is no single culture or standard of what being black is. I believe that is part of the problem, for some black people, is that they feel like that they have to act a certain way to be consider "black", even it means behaving in a way that is self destructive.
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I've lived all over the US, from the hood to the burbs. When I was in Birmingham, the hood was the hood and the middle class was the middle class. It was the same in Montgomery. It was the same in DC. There are plenty of SUB cultures within the black community that vary in plenty of different ways. But in general, that shit isn't much different from Delaware to Alaska. There was an upper, a middle and a lower class pretty much everywhere. I mean like, how much different are the West Side of Birmingham, SE DC, West/South Atlanta, The BX pre gentrification, South Chicago, etc. They may wear different clothes and talk a different way, but the basis of the culture in those areas is basically the same.

How much different are PG County, parts of Henry/Cascade/South Fulton, Bowie, Hill Crest, etc? The PG County kids love posing as street kids just the same as the ones here in the Atlanta metro do. Are there differences, sure. But overall, it's not much different between classes here no matter where you go. There is disparity between those classes in every single large metro area that you go to, no matter where it is. And the actions in those classes don't change when you change cities either.
 
unknown1 said:
I've lived all over the US, from the hood to the burbs. When I was in Birmingham, the hood was the hood and the middle class was the middle class. It was the same in Montgomery. It was the same in DC. There are plenty of SUB cultures within the black community that vary in plenty of different ways. But in general, that shit isn't much different from Delaware to Alaska. There was an upper, a middle and a lower class pretty much everywhere. I mean like, how much different are the West Side of Birmingham, SE DC, West/South Atlanta, The BX pre gentrification, South Chicago, etc. They may wear different clothes and talk a different way, but the basis of the culture in those areas is basically the same.

How much different are PG County, parts of Henry/Cascade/South Fulton, Bowie, Hill Crest, etc? The PG County kids love posing as street kids just the same as the ones here in the Atlanta metro do. Are there differences, sure. But overall, it's not much different between classes here no matter where you go. There is disparity between those classes in every single large metro area that you go to, no matter where it is. And the actions in those classes don't change when you change cities either.
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I agree about PG county. A lot of these kids grew up in two parent households but are trying to act like they are from the hood.
 
buckwheat1911 said:
I agree about PG county. A lot of these kids grew up in two parent households but are trying to act like they are from the hood.
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Because in our culture, in general, that's what you're supposed to be if you really want to be one of the most popular. It wasn't much different when I was in school to be honest. The dudes that sold dope, had the mouth full of gold and were in t he streets were the most popular dudes. If you were doing what you were supposed to do in school, getting good grades, reading and talking as if you actually had an education, you were lame.

I will say though, PG County is probably the place that I understood it the least. That area was almost nothing BUT rich black folks. Government jobs, two parent households and huge houses. I loved it out there and in Georgetown. But you also knew to be up out of PG County late night because somehow, the streets would get violent. It didn't even make sense to me. It wasn't SE DC, but it was still pretty bad.
 
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