What Happened To Sandra Bland?


Texas sheriff involved in the death of Sandra Bland fired from previous post for racism

We have now learned that Waller County Sheriff Glenn Smith, who made the first public comments about Bland's in-custody death, was suspended for documented cases of racism when he was chief of police in Hempstead, Texas, in 2007. After serving his suspension, more complaints of racism came in, and Smith was actually fired as chief of police in Hempstead:
True although, the news here is saying the arresting officers had nothing to do with her death because after they turned her over to the jailers on Friday they never saw her again. So the current line of thinking is that if something funny happened it is with the staff at the jail. Because she had been arraigned over the weekend and observed hours before her death.

I guess the arresting officers still have a measure of accountability because she should not have even been in jail. The city lawyers are fighting to not have the dash cam released, Sen. Royce West has become involved and he said he and the family will be shown the video and if it shows something relevant to the case he will demand it's released.

Rumor is, that the officer pulled her out of the car through the window and was very physically aggressive with her from the start.
 
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True although, the news here is saying the arresting officers had nothing to do with her death because after they turned her over to the jailers on Friday they never saw her again. So the current line of thinking is that if something funny happened it is with the staff at the jail. Because she had been arraigned over the weekend and observed hours before her death.

I guess the arresting officers still have a measure of accountability because she should not have even been in jail. The city lawyers are fighting to not have the dash cam released, Sen. Royce West has become involved and he said he and the family will be shown the video and if it shows something relevant to the case he will demand it's released.

Rumor is, that the officer pulled her out of the car through the window and was very physically aggressive with her from the start.

They addressed that rumor at the press conference yesterday, and stated unequivocally that it was not true, that she was not pulled through a window. They also stated that the FBI currently has both videos, and once they verify that they are authentic and have not been tampered with, they could be released, as early as next week. I also believe the video will be shown to the family before any release.
 



They addressed that rumor at the press conference yesterday, and stated unequivocally that it was not true, that she was not pulled through a window. They also stated that the FBI currently has both videos, and once they verify that they are authentic and have not been tampered with, they could be released, as early as next week. I also believe the video will be shown to the family before any release.
Good update thanks
 
I see the arresting Officer is a tamu graduate and has only been a trooper for about a year, I believe he is hispanic (just going by his name). I'm surprised that there was a county sheriff's officer there as backup and not a City of Prairie View officer.
 
That dude really needs to go on record with his account of the arrest IF it is true.

What good will that do? Every time someone tries to tell the truth in these cases-they get death threats. Just like the black guy in McKinney that saw what happened at that pool party-he is STILL getting death threats. He didn't excuse the cop or the white mother but simply stated how everything started.

. If what that man said is true-that STILL doesn't justify her death in the cell if it was not suicide. We have to get off this we are victims all the time crap. There are times that we are and times we are not.
 
I see the arresting Officer is a tamu graduate and has only been a trooper for about a year, I believe he is hispanic (just going by his name). I'm surprised that there was a county sheriff's officer there as backup and not a City of Prairie View officer.

That is a very good point. You basically used the words I have not used. I thought about that there were a sheriff's deputy and a Texas DPS officer. I did not see a Prairie View police. I remember PV police or the university police pull over drivers for speeding or any other infraction.
 
What good will that do? Every time someone tries to tell the truth in these cases-they get death threats. Just like the black guy in McKinney that saw what happened at that pool party-he is STILL getting death threats. He didn't excuse the cop or the white mother but simply stated how everything started.

. If what that man said is true-that STILL doesn't justify her death in the cell if it was not suicide. We have to get off this we are victims all the time crap. There are times that we are and times we are not.
Except he didn't see what happened to the girl at the pool party. He was not outside the pool on the street when it happened.
 
I don't have a good feeling about this. I believe there was foul play. This young lady had already contact the bailsman to make arrangments to leave. She also spoke with one of her relatives prior to the incident and didn't sound "suidical" at the time.....This really creeps me out......
 
Fiyah, the most recent press conference about an hour ago stated that the backup was a female City of Prairie View officer. The DA also said that so far, "he believes that he was told" that her dash cam memory was full, but couldn't verify that, and wouldn't know for sure until his office receives the report from the Texas Rangers to be presented to a Waller County grand jury.

Also, about 3 hours of surveillance video was released to the media at this press conference. You should start seeing it pop up online in the next few hours. It is reportedly a motion activated system that only records when motion is sensed (for those that subscribe to the "it was edited" theory). It supposedly shows video from the last time she was physically checked on to the point where the jailer discovered her.

Also, Houston's KPRC got an exclusive look inside the cell, which the sheriff says has not been entered since the death, except by investigative personnel. See that story at http://www.click2houston.com/news/n...stigation-in-waller-county-jail-cell/34255970

Finally, earlier today, I stumbled across this little video. It's fairly lengthy, but contains what appears to be an off the record, adversarial interview with the sheriff within the last few days. See that video at http://m.ustream.tv/recorded/68005345 (about 45 minutes long)
 
Yeah I listened to radio broadcast and heard it was 816 which is a city of PV officer.

Don't know how they let their dash cam memory get full, most are uploaded everyday when those vehicles come in to the station.
 
The Texas state trooper who stopped Sandra Bland was apparently planning to let her off with a written warning until he became angry when she refused to put out the cigarette she was smoking in her car.

An attorney for her family viewed dashboard camera footage of the traffic stop, and he said the state trooper returned to Bland’s car with what appeared to be a written warning, reported NBC News.

Bland, who seemed irritated that she had been pulled over, questioned why she should put out the cigarette, and the trooper became angry and ordered her out of the car, the attorney said.

The trooper attempted to open Bland’s car door, and she grabbed a cell phone to record the encounter.

The attorney, Cannon Lambert, said he didn’t understand why Bland should have been required to leave her car during the routine traffic stop.

Police claimed that Bland was “argumentative and uncooperative” during the encounter and assaulted the trooper, who has been placed on administrative leave, but the attorney said dashboard camera does not show the attack.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/das...t-sandra-bland-attacked-texas-trooper-pastor/
 
I suggest that you watch that off the cuff interview with the sheriff that I posted. His interview starts at about 19:00. So far, it SEEMS that the death itself was likely not a criminal act. BUUUUUT, the traffic stop that put her in jail will be scrutinized from top to bottom to figure out if she should have been in jail in the first place. Also, while it doesn't appear that anyone killed Sandy (from what I have seen to date), Waller county, IMO, will be paying that family a HEFTY sum in civil litigation because they failed/neglected/whatever other term you wanna use to ensure her welfare while she was in custody.
 
I suggest that you watch that off the cuff interview with the sheriff that I posted. His interview starts at about 19:00. So far, it SEEMS that the death itself was likely not a criminal act. BUUUUUT, the traffic stop that put her in jail will be scrutinized from top to bottom to figure out if she should have been in jail in the first place. Also, while it doesn't appear that anyone killed Sandy (from what I have seen to date), Waller county, IMO, will be paying that family a HEFTY sum in civil litigation because they failed/neglected/whatever other term you wanna use to ensure her welfare while she was in custody.
That's what I was thinking too.
 



Also, while it doesn't appear that anyone killed Sandy (from what I have seen to date), Waller county, IMO, will be paying that family a HEFTY sum in civil litigation because they failed/neglected/whatever other term you wanna use to ensure her welfare while she was in custody.

Bingo
 
Live press conference: The Sandra Bland case is being investigated as a homicide and all findings will go before a grand jury. Also, making note to the bill Gov. Perry signed into law requiring the grand jury to be diverse and a promise of transparency in all aspects of this case.
 
Live press conference: The Sandra Bland case is being investigated as a homicide and all findings will go before a grand jury. Also, making note to the bill Gov. Perry signed into law requiring the grand jury to be diverse and a promise of transparency in all aspects of this case.

Not QUITE....There is a BIG difference in being investigated AS a homicide and being investigated LIKE a homicide. This is being investigated LIKE a homicide, meaning the same procedures and testing is being done that any other typical homicide case would get, which the typical suicide doesn't get.

Also, the dash cam video has been released.

 
She was doing way too much. The first young lady who was pulled over acted sensibly. Nevertheless, I hope the truth about what happened in the cell comes out. RIP
 
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@ around the 14 min mark, he is telling the citizen recording to leave. The supreme court has ruled on that already that the officers CAN NOT stop a citizen from recording. As long as the citizen is not interfering with the police in any way. That's how they try to get you by saying you are interfering with them by being withing video camera distance. Also, the officer still never told her why she was being arrested. Their were so many things wrong with this situation, it just breaks my heart to see how Americans of African descent are treated in this country.

@ about 28 min. mark he is trying to get his story together, and decide how to go forward, it really give you a view into how they are trained and who their minds work.

Yes, I said Americans of African descent, I don't condone putting Africa before my America. I have pledged allegiance to America, voluntarily served in the armed forces of the United States of America during war time and some still want to put Africa before my America. I don't know shat about Africa, and it seems America don't know shat about me either.

I take this kind of stuff so personal because Americans of Color have given so much to this country and it just takes what we give then sh!ts it back out on us.
 
I have commented on other matters in this forum pertaining to police, so I will do the same for this incident.

1) Don't know why the end of the previous stop was included other than an attempt to show that the officer didn't have an aggressive predisposition leading into stopping Bland. Not sure I agree with the tactic of including it in the video.

2) The PC (probable cause) for the stop was valid. She clearly failed to signal her lane change, which is a violation as specified in Texas Traffic Code 545.104.

3) I had a friend that asked about protocol for which side of the vehicle the officer is supposed to approach. There is no standard. There are several correct ways, and it is completely up to the officer. As for why the initial approach was on the passenger side and the second approach was driver side, again completely up to the officer. I have done the same many times, and for various reasons.
4) You could tell from the start that Sandra Bland was pissed that she was stopped. IMO, she offered a fairly reasonable explanation as to why she committed the violation, and it seems that the Trooper at least somewhat agreed as evidenced by the warning that he was preparing to give her. Bland offered attitude from the beginning of the stop, and it appeared that the Trooper was kind of dumbfounded and didn't know how to respond.

5) Although, IMO, Bland initially escalated this into an adversarial encounter, it is also my opinion that the Trooper allowed himself to be baited into somewhat of a back and forth, one where even though he was giving orders, was no longer in control of the traffic stop.

6) "THE CIGARETTE".....The question I have gotten over and over was is that a legal request. Absolutely, and I didn't have a problem with the fact that he asked or the way that he asked. The problem started with the refusal, and his reaction to it. She does not have to honor the request, and absolutely has the right to continue smoking the cigarette. Does he have the right to ask her to step out when she refused? That's kind of tricky. He has the right to ask her to step out at any given time during the stop. The fact that he exercised that right only after she refused to put out the cigarette is what raises the eyebrows, and likely the part that will be scrutinized when evaluating whether the subsequent arrest was valid.

7) The display of the taser after verbal commands didn't work. That will come down to the policy of DPS regarding taser display and use. He got the desired result only after displaying the taser (and using some non-standard verbiage, i.e. "Yank you out of the car" and "I'm gonna light you up").

Honestly, that's all I can really analyze about the video, because the rest takes place out of camera view........

Which brings me to....
8) "The Trooper knew what he was doing when he moved out of view of the camera"......You damn right he did. His vehicle was parked in a standard manner for this traffic stop. Once he had her exit the vehicle, I guess they were supposed to just stand there right next to traffic whizzing by. Granted, they weren't on the freeway with cars doing 70, but I promise you that you don't want to get hit by a car doing 35 either.

Overall analysis:
I believe Ms. Bland was verbally resistant, and verbally uncooperative. I also believe the Trooper lost control of the stop and it spiraled from there. I won't comment on whether or not Bland kicked him or whether he used excessive force to subdue her because that entire portion of the video happened out of view of the camera. It reminds me of a fight I was in with a handcuffed female arrestee. In a lot of ways, it mirrored this stop, and I am blessed that mine did not turn out this way, and the arrestee pleaded guilty to Resisting Arrest (although she could have easily been charged with the same charge Bland had). I was kicked in the leg, elbowed, and the like, just like what is claimed here. Does that necessarily mean I side with the Trooper? No. I think he was just as culpable as Bland in this stop going south. Sometimes, you have to pick your battles more wisely.

Ultimately, the most material parts will be whether or not having her exit the car was the right move and what happened out of view of the camera. I'm not ready to hop on board with those that emphatically say she should not have been arrested, but I also am not quite ready to say that she should have been arrested either.

I left some space for REASONABLE questions and replies, which I will do my best to answer as impartially as I can, based on personal experience and Texas law.
 
@ around the 14 min mark, he is telling the citizen recording to leave. The supreme court has ruled on that already that the officers CAN NOT stop a citizen from recording. As long as the citizen is not interfering with the police in any way. That's how they try to get you by saying you are interfering with them by being withing video camera distance. Also, the officer still never told her why she was being arrested. Their were so many things wrong with this situation, it just breaks my heart to see how Americans of African descent are treated in this country.


@ about 28 min. mark he is trying to get his story together, and decide how to go forward, it really give you a view into how they are trained and who their minds work.


Yes, I said Americans of African descent, I don't condone putting Africa before my America. I have pledged allegiance to America, voluntarily served in the armed forces of the United States of America during war time and some still want to put Africa before my America. I don't know shat about Africa, and it seems America don't know shat about me either.

I take this kind of stuff so personal because Americans of Color have given so much to this country and it just takes what we give then sh!ts it back out on us.

You are correct with the first statement. I forgot to mention the point about the recording in my synopsis. You are ABSOLUTELY correct. As far as telling her what she was arrested for, that's another one of those myths that people picked up watching cop shows. Admittedly, it is good practice to do this, but it is not Constitutionally required that the arresting officer inform the arrestee of the charges right then. In actuality, this right is guaranteed within 48 hours of arrest. The arrestee must have a probable cause hearing within 48 hours or without reasonable delay, and must be presented the charges against them at that time.

On the second point, Sleep, it sounds to me like he is speaking with a supervisor (or possibly a DA) and attempting to articulate facts to determine the appropriate charge. In this case, it sounds like he is debating Resisting Arrest vs Assault of Public Servant, both of which could apply in this situation.
 
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