SWAC Approves 7-Game Conference Football Schedule Starting 2017


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major095 said:
If yall would sell some season tickets they'd all be profitable. The whole point is to play OUT OF CONFERENCE. Otherwise keep the 9 games. We all complain about the quality of our football but no one wants to do anything different. So we keep playing this tarded, inbred brand of football.
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We do sell season tickets, and more so than anyone else in this conference. You still want more folks purchasing tickets outside of your season-ticket holders. We know fans will come to Mumford to see Alcorn and Jackson State, so when one of them isn't on our schedule, no reason not to schedule them as a non-conference game, especially since Jackson State is a main rival of ours. I can't think of a team outside of FAMU(and that would take a while to work them back into the minds of our younger fans as being a big rival) that would bring more people to Mumford other than Jackson State and Alcorn. We would still have 3 other games to schedule those other teams.
 
In_The_662 said:
Preach.....

It is hypocritical to complain about how bad SWAC football is with the scheduling and all that (so the 9 game mandate took care of that) but then as soon as the news breaks about going back to the 7 games the talks of SWAC OOC games are already thrown out there
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It's not hypocritical at all, why should Southern and Jackson State scratch off one of their biggest rivalry games because it is a year where they have to face a Texas School(JSU) or Bama School(SU)?
 
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Tigerpride said:
But you don't mind FBS schools padding their schedule with Grambling?
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If it was up to me we would play an lower FBS team every other year. I would rather play up than down anyday. Historically Grambling has played up anyway. There is nothing wrong with playing in other areas of the U.S. that you usually don't play in.

"Although Grambling belonged to the Southwestern Athletic Conference, whose members were all predominantly black colleges, it could occasionally schedule a major intersectional opponent like Oregon State or Southern Methodist because it was such a gate attraction"

Quote is from.... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/sports/ncaafootball/05robinson.html?_r=0

I would keep that philosophy. Would play the lower FBS teams though. There are many reasons why GSU is known and other universities are regional. Grambling does whats best for Grambling as should each university, just because JSU doesn't play FBS doesn't mean GSU shouldn't. Some criticize HBCU's playing FBS but on the real many of the FCS teams are skull drugging HBCU's and the HBCU's aren't making any money off those beatings. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
major095 said:
If yall would sell some season tickets they'd all be profitable. The whole point is to play OUT OF CONFERENCE. Otherwise keep the 9 games. We all complain about the quality of our football but no one wants to do anything different. So we keep playing this tarded, inbred brand of football.
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SU leads the Swac in season tickets sold.
 
major095 said:
If yall would sell some season tickets they'd all be profitable. The whole point is to play OUT OF CONFERENCE. Otherwise keep the 9 games. We all complain about the quality of our football but no one wants to do anything different. So we keep playing this tarded, inbred brand of football.
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Bruh....did you actually say if we WOULD SELL SOME TICKETS?
 
bluedog said:
Bruh....did you actually say if we WOULD SELL SOME TICKETS?
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I didn't ssssssssttttuddddder. You may indeed lead the swac in season tickets sold, but apparently you still aren't selling enough because some of you are on here talking about how you can't survive if jsu isn't on your schedule. when auburn plays pacific or bama a&m it still goes in the books as a sell out because all the tickets were sold, primarily to their fans (only exception is the 2k tickets they give to the opposition).
If YOUR fans can't fill YOUR stadium that means your not doing a good enough job selling tickets OR... you built your stadium too big. If scootlandville high is on the schedule it should be a sellout.

Bama state has a 26,500 capacity stadium. whoever comes in there should find 26,500 alabama state fans. not 15k hornet fans and 13k jax state or southern, whatever. you might not like that. you might say its unrealistic, but that's why you having an AD, and marketing is for. why would you want the opposition to bring their fans, band, and cheerleaders? how does that help you win a football game?

and lest I forget... your apparently legendary season ticket sales that I knew nothing of. mumford seats what almost 30K? so how many season tickets are you guys selling on average? 5k? 10k? yall still got work to do. that's the point. so does the Corn, and everyone else in this conference. when alcorn went to JMU they were ok with the 12 alcorn fans that showed up. they squeezed them in amongst the 28k of their fans that showed up... lol.
 
major095 said:
I didn't ssssssssttttuddddder. You may indeed lead the swac in season tickets sold, but apparently you still aren't selling enough because some of you are on here talking about how you can't survive if jsu isn't on your schedule. when auburn plays pacific or bama a&m it still goes in the books as a sell out because all the tickets were sold, primarily to their fans (only exception is the 2k tickets they give to the opposition).
If YOUR fans can't fill YOUR stadium that means your not doing a good enough job selling tickets OR... you built your stadium too big. If scootlandville high is on the schedule it should be a sellout.

Bama state has a 26,500 capacity stadium. whoever comes in there should find 26,500 alabama state fans. not 15k hornet fans and 13k jax state or southern, whatever. you might not like that. you might say its unrealistic, but that's why you having an AD, and marketing is for. why would you want the opposition to bring their fans, band, and cheerleaders? how does that help you win a football game?

and lest I forget... your apparently legendary season ticket sales that I knew nothing of. mumford seats what almost 30K? so how many season tickets are you guys selling on average? 5k? 10k? yall still got work to do. that's the point. so does the Corn, and everyone else in this conference. when alcorn went to JMU they were ok with the 12 alcorn fans that showed up. they squeezed them in amongst the 28k of their fans that showed up... lol.
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The fact that you're comparing an FCS fanbase to ANY BCS fanbase speak loud and clear about your lack of understanding about the subject. So there's really no conversation to have here.
 
bluedog said:
The fact that you're comparing an FCS fanbase to ANY BCS fanbase speak loud and clear about your lack of understanding about the subject. So there's really no conversation to have here.
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which is also why I included JMU in my post. way to not address anything else I posted.
 
major095 said:
I didn't ssssssssttttuddddder. You may indeed lead the swac in season tickets sold, but apparently you still aren't selling enough because some of you are on here talking about how you can't survive if jsu isn't on your schedule. when auburn plays pacific or bama a&m it still goes in the books as a sell out because all the tickets were sold, primarily to their fans (only exception is the 2k tickets they give to the opposition).
If YOUR fans can't fill YOUR stadium that means your not doing a good enough job selling tickets OR... you built your stadium too big. If scootlandville high is on the schedule it should be a sellout.

Bama state has a 26,500 capacity stadium. whoever comes in there should find 26,500 alabama state fans. not 15k hornet fans and 13k jax state or southern, whatever. you might not like that. you might say its unrealistic, but that's why you having an AD, and marketing is for. why would you want the opposition to bring their fans, band, and cheerleaders? how does that help you win a football game?

and lest I forget... your apparently legendary season ticket sales that I knew nothing of. mumford seats what almost 30K? so how many season tickets are you guys selling on average? 5k? 10k? yall still got work to do. that's the point. so does the Corn, and everyone else in this conference. when alcorn went to JMU they were ok with the 12 alcorn fans that showed up. they squeezed them in amongst the 28k of their fans that showed up... lol.
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You sell tickets by playing opponents that your fans actually have interest in seeing your team play. Like I said there are only a handful of schools that would net us a 25,000 plus attendance. In this day and age, those days of getting 30,000 for every game are over due to a lot of factors. Attendance is an issue even at the big FBS schools(hence why the Big Ten and SEC Network were very genius moves capitalizing on the growing number of fans choosing to stay at home for the games). Even in the SEC, Florida isn't going to sell 84,000 tickets when they play Eastern Kentucky or Tennessee-Martin. The fans pack the stadium when they are playing schools they have an interest in watching play against their team. (Florida State, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, etc.....) Also, no one said we couldn't survive without playing JSU (since we clearly make out fine in years where we are the road team), it's about preserving a key rivalry. Ask the sane Texas and A&M fans, or Missouri and Kansas, or Nebraska and Oklahoma, or Pitt-West Virginia, if they miss playing each other.
 
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This is the way it will be.

Alcorn vs Southern will stay..
Alcorn vs Grambling will stay…
Alcorn vs Jackson will stay…

Alcorn vs Howard should return…
Alcorn vs Southern Mississippi should continue brewing…

Alcorn vs Texas Southern is cool.
Alcorn vs Alabama A&M has potential..
Alcorn vs Prairie View, Alabama State, Mississippi Valley, and Arkansas Pine-Bluff?? Hmmmmm..pick a number and the luckiest 2 will get that spot for the year.

Alcorn vs.. OOC school of choice (PWC or HBCU)
 
number1 said:
It's not hypocritical at all, why should Southern and Jackson State scratch off one of their biggest rivalry games because it is a year where they have to face a Texas School(JSU) or Bama School(SU)?
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You might as well keep the 9 game mandate if you are going to do that.

We can't roast schools for having Concordia (won't include the schools now since they (for now) won't count in the NCAA's eyes) on the schedule and call their lazy ADs but then be cool with playing a SWAC school as an OOC game (finances or not). That's lazy as well.

I know there are some people on here that actually work at the high level of their respective schools. I hope they aren't listening to the internet ADs on here lol
 
Try not to focus on a MEAC school because if you make it past the SWAC championship you will face the Winner of MEAC, use the 7 game mandate and schedule some Top FCS schools and shake up some national polls. LOL
 
number1 said:
We do sell season tickets, and more so than anyone else in this conference. You still want more folks purchasing tickets outside of your season-ticket holders. We know fans will come to Mumford to see Alcorn and Jackson State, so when one of them isn't on our schedule, no reason not to schedule them as a non-conference game, especially since Jackson State is a main rival of ours. I can't think of a team outside of FAMU(and that would take a while to work them back into the minds of our younger fans as being a big rival) that would bring more people to Mumford other than Jackson State and Alcorn. We would still have 3 other games to schedule those other teams.
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I'm not sure how we feel about playing Tuskegee. I wouldn't mind bringing them in
 
major095 said:
I didn't ssssssssttttuddddder. You may indeed lead the swac in season tickets sold, but apparently you still aren't selling enough because some of you are on here talking about how you can't survive if jsu isn't on your schedule. when auburn plays pacific or bama a&m it still goes in the books as a sell out because all the tickets were sold, primarily to their fans (only exception is the 2k tickets they give to the opposition).
If YOUR fans can't fill YOUR stadium that means your not doing a good enough job selling tickets OR... you built your stadium too big. If scootlandville high is on the schedule it should be a sellout.

Bama state has a 26,500 capacity stadium. whoever comes in there should find 26,500 alabama state fans. not 15k hornet fans and 13k jax state or southern, whatever. you might not like that. you might say its unrealistic, but that's why you having an AD, and marketing is for. why would you want the opposition to bring their fans, band, and cheerleaders? how does that help you win a football game?

and lest I forget... your apparently legendary season ticket sales that I knew nothing of. mumford seats what almost 30K? so how many season tickets are you guys selling on average? 5k? 10k? yall still got work to do. that's the point. so does the Corn, and everyone else in this conference. when alcorn went to JMU they were ok with the 12 alcorn fans that showed up. they squeezed them in amongst the 28k of their fans that showed up... lol.
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We don't need visiting fans to come help us make money unlike other schools. Those loyal 13,000 people that showed up for the games in November when we had a lot on the line, will continue to be there. We had some people running to LSU campus for the TSU game when they were playing Alabama. Those same damn people were stuck 2 hours in traffic coming from Baton Rouge to get to Houston for the championship. Believe it or not, all of our HBCUs could improve with attendance numbers even us but to say we aren't capable of selling out Mumford is a damn lie. I'm thinking that is what you are implying.
 
truthteller said:
This is the way it will be.

Alcorn vs Southern will stay..
Alcorn vs Grambling will stay…
Alcorn vs Jackson will stay…

Alcorn vs Howard should return…
Alcorn vs Southern Mississippi should continue brewing…

Alcorn vs Texas Southern is cool.
Alcorn vs Alabama A&M has potential..
Alcorn vs Prairie View, Alabama State, Mississippi Valley, and Arkansas Pine-Bluff?? Hmmmmm..pick a number and the luckiest 2 will get that spot for the year.

Alcorn vs.. OOC school of choice (PWC or HBCU)
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Umm.... you'd have to play your division rivals Valley and Bama State every year.
 



Jag-BR said:
We don't need visiting fans to come help us make money unlike other schools. Those loyal 13,000 people that showed up for the games in November when we had a lot on the line, will continue to be there. We had some people running to LSU campus for the TSU game when they were playing Alabama. Those same damn people were stuck 2 hours in traffic coming from Baton Rouge to get to Houston for the championship. Believe it or not, all of our HBCUs could improve with attendance numbers even us but to say we aren't capable of selling out Mumford is a damn lie. I'm thinking that is what you are implying.
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that's not what I'm trying to do and if it came across that way i'm sorry. my point is yes, money is important but you don't look to others' fans to take care of your financial needs. that's the job of your fans. the problem is that northwestern state or mcneese doesn't travel well. the problem is that your/our fans didn't show up like we need them too. maybe I'm being too idealistic for people on here, by expecting alcorn fans to pay for all the tickets in our stadium regardless of opponent. that is what I expect however even if we rarely do it. maybe we need to tarp the seats we don't sell, reduce seating capacity to 10k and create some demand for our product. as well, when alcorn is hosting jsu I wouldn't have any single game tickets for sale. if you didn't have one of the season ticket packages... well, I hope its on tv because you wont be seeing it or at least that single game ticket would cost the same as the cheapest season ticket package, causing those who buy it to understand, "I should have just got the package at the beginning of the season."
 
This 7 game is good for us. Bama has plenty of schools that are regional. With UNA moving to FCS it get better. We can get TNSU back, pick up UNA. Play a FBS and get TU in the Lewis Crews Classic.
 
I can't speak for nobody else, but a good 80% of Grambling alumni live a hour or more outside of Grambling, so asking them to drive to Grambling to see Grambling play a 1-6 MVSU is unrealistic! They will come down the road for games vs JSU and Alcorn, because traditionally, they have strong programs.
 
jag4life said:
Umm.... you'd have to play your division rivals Valley and Bama State every year.
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I was wondering when someone was going to catch that.

I am almost starting to think the 9 game mandate is a good thing

@GramblingMan2009 - As I pointed out to yall on Facebook, yall weren't coming to Valley if we were 6-1 or 1-6 so you could have kept that little sneak shot to yourself. Your own fans weren't coming when you were 1-6. At this point, SU is the only one that can have something to boast about concerning attendance.
 
CEE DOG said:
This 7 game is good for us. Bama has plenty of schools that are regional. With UNA moving to FCS it get better. We can get TNSU back, pick up UNA. Play a FBS and get TU in the Lewis Crews Classic.
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The AL, TX and LA have plenty of in state FCS and low level FBS options (as well as regional FCS schools) that they can put on the schedule. UAPB and the MS schools doesn't have that luxury in state wise (Delta State and Mississippi College are D2 and Millsaps is D3) so we have to get creative with our scheduling
 
Man y'all still fussing over this smh, Face it JSU vs SU will not happen every year unless the SWAC gives you a permanent playing team for so many years like the SEC does. The years SU dont play JSU go play FAMU or another big powerhouse HBCU team its not that hard folks.
 
jag4life said:
Umm.... you'd have to play your division rivals Valley and Bama State every year.
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(Sighs)... Aiight, just plug in Alabama State and Mississippi Valley in our two lucky spots and problem solved. We can alternate Texas Southern (although I'd rather keep them) with Prairie View and Arkansas Pine-Bluff. Or even schedule 2 out of the three on the year we can't schedule a formidable OOC opponent in that extra spot.
 
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