Cavaliers, Timberwolves have 'handshake agreement' for a Kevin Love trade

[Kendrick]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Per <a href="https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN">@WindhorstESPN</a>, the Cavs and Timberwolves have a “handshake agreement&quot; for Kevin Love <a href="http://t.co/aUfvYCszKr">http://t.co/aUfvYCszKr</a> <a href="http://t.co/7fSqQs4oW7">pic.twitter.com/7fSqQs4oW7</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation (@SBNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNation/statuses/496612845585326080">August 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Jag-BR]

Wow

 

[Bighead]

Who cares...

Just get done with the trade already dayum lol

You won't win a ship with Love - Bighead (stamp it)

 

[Sting]

Who cares...

Just get done with the trade already dayum lol

You won't win a ship with Love - Bighead (stamp it)

I agree

 

[Kendrick]

Might not win a championship with him in the immediacy, but Cleveland is certainty a better team with him, though.

 

[JSU/99]

Lebron's going to be in the same situation he was with the Heat - Stuck on a top-heavy team with no roster flexibility. It worked out well for 4 years with the heat, but the Wade/Bosh combo was a better fit for his talents than the Irving/Love duo.

 

[Sting]

Lebron's going to be in the same situation he was with the Heat - Stuck on a top-heavy team with no roster flexibility. It worked out well for 4 years with the heat, but the Wade/Bosh combo was a better fit for his talents than the Irving/Love duo.

Exactly and the Bulls still should be a favorite over the Cavs.

 

[Kendrick]

Lebron's going to be in the same situation he was with the Heat - Stuck on a top-heavy team with no roster flexibility. It worked out well for 4 years with the heat, but the Wade/Bosh combo was a better fit for his talents than the Irving/Love duo.

Irving is, in a sense, a younger Wade. Love is just a skilled offensive player as Bosh (and shoots threes better)

Then they've added shooters in Mike Miller, James Jones, Ray Allen could show up. There is talk that Shawn Marion could be added, too.

Cleveland is gonna be better than the Bulls if the roster unfolds that way because Chicago still doesn't have a guy other than Rose who can create his own shot consistently until proven otherwise.

 

[JSU/99]

Irving is, in a sense, a younger Wade. Love is just a skilled offensive player as Bosh (and shoots threes better)

Then they've added shooters in Mike Miller, James Jones, Ray Allen could show up. There is talk that Shawn Marion could be added, too.

Cleveland is gonna be better than the Bulls if the roster unfolds that way because Chicago still doesn't have a guy other than Rose who can create his own shot consistently until proven otherwise.

Irving is NOT a younger Wade. Not even close. Remember, 4 years ago Wade was still a top-10 player, a veteran with championship experience. Irving can barely get through a full season and isn't nearly the defender Wade was/is. Bosh isn't as good as Love, but he's a better defender and more athletic. This team is going to have some major problems on defense.

Mike Miller was a good addition, but James Jones couldn't even get off the bench with Miami. Ray Allen is probably going to retire - he should.

 

[Kendrick]

Irving is NOT a younger Wade. Not even close. Remember, 4 years ago Wade was still a top-10 player, a veteran with championship experience. Irving can barely get through a full season and isn't nearly the defender Wade was/is. Bosh isn't as good as Love, but he's a better defender and more athletic. This team is going to have some major problems on defense.

Mike Miller was a good addition, but James Jones couldn't even get off the bench with Miami. Ray Allen is probably going to retire - he should.

That team is better than the Bulls.

 

[jag4life]

Irving is NOT a younger Wade. Not even close. Remember, 4 years ago Wade was still a top-10 player, a veteran with championship experience. Irving can barely get through a full season and isn't nearly the defender Wade was/is. Bosh isn't as good as Love, but he's a better defender and more athletic. This team is going to have some major problems on defense.

Mike Miller was a good addition, but James Jones couldn't even get off the bench with Miami. Ray Allen is probably going to retire - he should.

CURRENTLY Wade isn't better than Irving. You're talking about 4 years ago.

 

[Sting]

Irving is nowhere near a younger Wade. Keep in mind Wade is a Finals MVP while Irving can't even get his team to the playoffs. The Bulls are a better team than the Cavs due to having more depth and also they have been more consistent which shows the players believe in the system.

 

[JSU/99]

CURRENTLY Wade isn't better than Irving. You're talking about 4 years ago.

That was in response to Kendrick's assertion that Irving is a younger Wade. He's not. He's better than the current broken down Wade, but that doesn't mean he'll mesh as well with Lebron. That's the key. Irving is not a 2-way player.

 

[Kendrick]

Irving is nowhere near a younger Wade. Keep in mind Wade is a Finals MVP while Irving can't even get his team to the playoffs. The Bulls are a better team than the Cavs due to having more depth and also they have been more consistent which shows the players believe in the system.

The Cavs have LeBron on it. That's why they're better to begin with. And if they add Love, they'll have two of the top 10 players in the league on their team. How hard is that to understand?

 

[Sting]

The Cavs have LeBron on it. That's why they're better to begin with. And if they add Love, they'll have two of the top 10 players in the league on their team. How hard is that to understand?

Lebron will not be able to beat a whole team by himself and Love will not put up those same numbers in Cleveland. You are out of your mind if you think that.

 

[jag4life]

Irving is nowhere near a younger Wade. Keep in mind Wade is a Finals MVP while Irving can't even get his team to the playoffs. The Bulls are a better team than the Cavs due to having more depth and also they have been more consistent which shows the players believe in the system.

Wade could not have gotten that Cleveland team to the playoffs within his first 3 years either. Wade was playing with Odom, Eddie Jones, Caron Butler,etc as a rookie as opposed to Kyrie playing with Anthony Parker, and Omri Casspi. LOL

Then Shaq came to Miami.

 

[jag4life]

Lebron will not be able to beat a whole team by himself and Love will not put up those same numbers in Cleveland. You are out of your mind if you think that.

Give a good reason why Love won't be able to put up similar numbers in Cleveland (the East).

 

[Sting]

The Cavs have LeBron on it. That's why they're better to begin with. And if they add Love, they'll have two of the top 10 players in the league on their team. How hard is that to understand?

You've obviously never played sports but chemistry is an important factor to a team having success. An example of that would be the Spurs and how they bought into the system.

 

[Sting]

Wade could not have gotten that Cleveland team to the playoffs within his first 3 years either. Wade was playing with Odom, Eddie Jones, Caron Butler,etc as a rookie as opposed to Kyrie playing with Anthony Parker, and Omri Casspi. LOL

Then Shaq came to Miami.

Irving had some talent around him last year and the Cavs could have had a better season. Defense is/was the Wade was a stronger leader when he came into the league than the Irving is.

 

[Kendrick]

You've obviously never played sports but chemistry is an important factor to a team having success. An example of that would be the Spurs and how they bought into the system.

We're not talking about a science experiment here. It's a basketball team.

 

[Sting]

Give a good reason why Love won't be able to put up similar numbers in Cleveland (the East).

He'll put up a double double but not 26 and 13 on the same team as Lebron. Keep in mind that the Minnesota had pretty much garbage players with no help.

 

[Sting]

We're not talking about a science experiment here. It's a basketball team.

You can't be that slow to realize that team chemistry is needed to win a ring. Have you even played sports before? Talent does alone will not beat team chemistry.

 

[Kendrick]

You can't be that slow to realize that team chemistry is needed to win a ring. Have you even played sports before? Talent does alone will not beat team chemistry.

Having the best player in the world and two all-stars who haven't reached their primes helps. A lot.

 

[Sting]

Having the best player in the world and two all-stars who haven't reached their primes helps. A lot.

It helps them get to the playoffs but not win a ring. That's the part you a missing out on. Also you have no idea how the coach will use the players on the Cavs

 

[Kendrick]

It helps them get to the playoffs but not win a ring. That's the part you a missing out on. Also you have no idea how the coach will use the players on the Cavs

You don't know how Thibs will use the players on the Bulls either.

What about their team chemistry? We don't know whether those guys can play together, or what roles they'll have. I mean, if you're Taj, I'd be a little upset that I probably won't start this year after clearly being better than Boozer the last few seasons. Bulls still have a lot of unproven pieces on that team.