JROCK
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Tuskegee Exploring Division I?
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In_The_662
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I forgot to put that in my original post. Some of the further away schools like basically all the East schools would end up in some of those neutral site games and get exposed to new markets.
Some of us should be running the SWAC :lol:
bluedog
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Great post! Obviously TNSU would be the perfect fit for the east and the SWAC from a rivalry stand point.
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Listen up maggots! And that's an order!
Plus, Tennessee State would add another crucial media market for the SWAC...
This current round of conference expansion has more to do with markets and sponsorship deals than competition. Looking at the TV markets our member schools are in, it breaks down like this…
Six of the 10 SWAC members play in a top 100 TV market
School(s)/TV Market/Market rank
Texas Southern & Prairie View A&M: Houston (10)
Arkansas-Pine Bluff: Little Rock-Pine Bluff (56)
Alabama A&M: Huntsville-Decatur (84)
Jackson State: Jackson, MS (90)
Southern: Baton Rouge (95)
Alabama State: Montgomery-Selma (118)
Grambling State: Monroe-El Dorado (136)
NOTE: determine what market would Alcorn and Mississippi Valley State be considered located in
Markets SWAC teams frequent(ed) (market size in parentheses):
Dallas-Fort Worth – State Fair Classic (5)
Houston – SWAC Championship (10)
St. Louis – Gateway Classic (21)
Indianapolis – Circle City Classic (25)
Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne – SWAC/MEAC Challenge (19)
Birmingham – Magic City Classic (40)
Memphis – Southern Heritage Classic (48)
New Orleans – Bayou Classic (53)
Mobile-Pensacola (60)
Shreveport (84)
Potential members and market size
Tennessee State: Nashville (29)
Langston: Oklahoma City (45) ... being in a unique position (only football FCS school in Oklahoma if they move up) in a market that size and possibly Tulsa, Langston could find resources and sponsors to help them get over that hump
Now Langston would also give the SWAC ins to the Tulsa market (61); plus opening up some possibilities in playing in Kansas City (31) and those other listed markets from the earlier post.
Information regarding media market size comes from http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets
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GramblingMan2009
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Langston would be smart to play their home games vs Grambling and SU in OKC, and possibly a second SWAC or SLC foe. I would like to see both Langston and TNSU in the SWAC, because they both bring something unique to the conference both are fiesty football programs
Tiger1
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Looks like FCS Conference expansion is a hot topic again.
UNA - Univ of N AL is trying to get into the OVC and has been trying to get in for the last 5 to 6 years now and it looks like Jax'ville State wants them in as well.
Sounds as if Jax'ville State will lobby for TUNA to get in during the OVC meetings over the next couple of weeks.
“The most popular spectator sport in America is football,†Benson said. “They stated unequivocally that they are a basketball conference.â€
He also said the OVC is considering bringing in a Division II school, North Alabama, into the conference, which also has less stringent academic requirements and possibly does little to enhance the conference’s profile.
http://www.easternprogress.com/2014/02/26/board-hears-case-for-big-time-football/
http://gojaxstate.boards.net/thread/258/eku-tuna
I'm not sure how the landscape will change when the power conferences branch out or flat out leave the NCAA but it will most definitely change.
Power conferences in autonomy talks
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...mull-giving-power-5-conferences-more-autonomy
UNA - Univ of N AL is trying to get into the OVC and has been trying to get in for the last 5 to 6 years now and it looks like Jax'ville State wants them in as well.
Sounds as if Jax'ville State will lobby for TUNA to get in during the OVC meetings over the next couple of weeks.
“The most popular spectator sport in America is football,†Benson said. “They stated unequivocally that they are a basketball conference.â€
He also said the OVC is considering bringing in a Division II school, North Alabama, into the conference, which also has less stringent academic requirements and possibly does little to enhance the conference’s profile.
http://www.easternprogress.com/2014/02/26/board-hears-case-for-big-time-football/
http://gojaxstate.boards.net/thread/258/eku-tuna
I'm not sure how the landscape will change when the power conferences branch out or flat out leave the NCAA but it will most definitely change.
Power conferences in autonomy talks
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...mull-giving-power-5-conferences-more-autonomy
Tiger1
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I have major love for the SWAC and my HBCU brethren but I don't see how the SWAC benefits TNSU.
Tiger1
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I would love for another HBCU to join the OVC.
bluedog
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GramblingMan2009
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Maybe TNSU will stop seeing a 60-70% drop in attendance in conference games after their OOC HBCU schedule
JROCK
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This is what their home attendance looked like without an HBCU:
SEMO 7,374
EIU 22,157 (I am guessing homecoming)
APSU 5,258
MSU 6,412
:lol: :emlaugh:
(It's obvious they're fans aren't interested in that Tomfoolery)
And only thinking of 1 sport.....
There are many other sports they will have to play in a D1 conference, can they support those teams and Title IX.
Basebone1898
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Amen! I guess Tulane and Stanford should drop down to FCS. Lol.
Basebone1898
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More than five brother. Tuskegee would compete for SWAC East titles on a consistent basis.
Basebone1898
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Yup. Langston and Grambling have a lot of family ties.
Basebone1898
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I agree. I have always respected Tennessee State and their program. I think it's awesome for an HBCU to be outside of the SWAC and MEAC.
We like to put lipstick on a pig in the SWAC. We seem to be so happy about attendance numbers rather than what we produce on the field and the classroom. Stay out of this pot!
Basebone1898
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You don't know much about Tuskegee academic performances and their history do you?
Proper planning will get them in the SWAC. If they come aboard, the East will have another Bama contender every year. Tuskegee recruits well and has a respected alumni base who won't let them enter the SWAC unprepared.
bluedog
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Like he really has any say about it. :smh: Clearly you really don't know anything about their financial situation or what it takes to move up.
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bluedog
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:emlaugh: :lol:
jsupop33
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Academics are one thing, but it has nothing o do with improving the sports profile of the conference. Most of that talent you are salivating over at skegee would be ineligible at fcs level. They would have Apr issues from day 1.
JSUDMJ2004
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You right there isn't any benefit for them to move to the SWAC. Dr. Glover shut that idea down last year. Also the OVC isnt a bad conference to be in (they are a well ran conference IMO) not to mention most of the OVC schools are in TN. I keep telling people here that you are missing much from not being in the SWAC.
Skegee is a walking violation but most schools in the SWAC are so it might not make a difference with the way rules are changing everyday....
They are definitely saving on travel for their non-revenue sports by playing in the OVC vs the SWAC or MEAC. However they make their money by playing HBCUs exclusively in football OOC.
Skegee would not add to the conference competition-wise and will hurt us more in APR.
JSUDMJ2004
JSU enuff said!
True to me they have the bet of both worlds they play most of the OOC against HBCU to appease their fan base and their conference games are against pretty good teams which has made them a force within their conference. I would love for JSU or any SWAC school to have it football wise like Tenn State. Now as far as everything else I think JSU is has a bigger advantage.
Which is why they won their last conference championship 15 years ago?
In_The_662
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