The legendary Jackie Robinson a former SWAC coach?


Jackie Robinson was a significant figure, but I would not put him above MLK, or even Rosa Parks. I would even put Jesse Owens above Jackie Robinson. Owens came along a decade before Jackie Robinson, and stared down Adolph Hitler and shattered the myth of Aryan superiority on a WORLD stage...

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Deuce said:
Jackie Robinson was a significant figure, but I would not put him above MLK, or even Rosa Parks. I would even put Jesse Owens above Jackie Robinson. Owens came along a decade before Jackie Robinson, and stared down Adolph Hitler and shattered the myth of Aryan superiority on a WORLD stage...

Let's not get it twisted . . .
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:tup: I'm glad we had all of them and even The Greatest, Ali and his conscientious objection to the Vietnam War and exemplification of his principal to this endeavor was/is historical......However, my choice is well documented......The Dreamer :lol: :emlaugh:
 
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Deuce said:
Jackie Robinson was a significant figure, but I would not put him above MLK, or even Rosa Parks. I would even put Jesse Owens above Jackie Robinson. Owens came along a decade before Jackie Robinson, and stared down Adolph Hitler and shattered the myth of Aryan superiority on a WORLD stage...

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One can argue that as well. I'm a big fan of Owens. It's funny that we bring him up during the Robinson convo because Robinson's brother had the 2nd fastest time in one of the events Owens won.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/big-l...act-martin-luther-king-jr-155634569--mlb.html
 
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I would agree that JR is in the top 4-5 conversation. But in the immortal words of Dr. King, freedon is never given by the oppresor it must be demanded by the oppressed. Once JR was hand picked by Branch he did great things and was the man for the job and continued to do great things. The door wasn't opened for MLK by a nice rich white guy, he kicked it down and took the fight to the oppressor. The man waged war on poverty, an apartheid govt, a segrated society and injustice everywhere. I respect your perspective and will agree to vehemently disagree.
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I see what you're saying but all I'm saying is that it's in the eye of the beholder. To some Malcolm X, Ali, Rosa Parks, ect had a bigger impact. There isn't a wrong answer. They all served a great purpose.
 
I'd say this: Sports has always been at the forefront of social change and social movements before the rest of American society post-slavery, though. We can mention Robinson, Curt Flood, Owens, Ali, John Carlos and Tommie Smith. You can examine the athlete-led movements on college campuses that sparked change, too.

And also, a black person or a black entity hasn't achieved a tremendous amount of success without being aided by whites at some point during their journey. You can say Robinson wouldn't have been in MLB if not for Branch Rickey. But there were no black managers, coaches, scouts or general managers to help Robinson break into pro baseball.
 
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Jackie Robinson was a significant figure, but I would not put him above MLK, or even Rosa Parks. I would even put Jesse Owens above Jackie Robinson. Owens came along a decade before Jackie Robinson, and stared down Adolph Hitler and shattered the myth of Aryan superiority on a WORLD stage...

Let's not get it twisted . . .
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Exactly!
 
Lastyly, I would say Thurgood Marshall is 2nd only behind MLK Jr. as the most influential person of the 20th Century. Anyone behind those two are up for debate.
 
Even so, MLK was more a greater impact than JR. John the Baptist was not more of an impact than Jesus. Nor was Rosa Parks a greater impact than MLK.
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Shortly before his death in 1968, Dr. King said, "Jackie Robinson made my success possible. Without him, I would never have been able to do what I did.''
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Deuce said:
Jackie Robinson was a significant figure, but I would not put him above MLK, or even Rosa Parks. I would even put Jesse Owens above Jackie Robinson. Owens came along a decade before Jackie Robinson, and stared down Adolph Hitler and shattered the myth of Aryan superiority on a WORLD stage...

Let's not get it twisted . . .
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Then that would open the door for Jack Johnson. Who sported his white women when doing so had been a death sentence. It also opens the door for Joe Louis who united the entire country.
 
The funny thing about a movement is that its essentially a cast of hundreds/thousands doing things either in lockstep or individually to progress the movement. No one person was more important than the other individually, but the total sum of their acts are the reason we are here now as a people.
 
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