Losing Faith: 21 Percent Say Religion 'Not That Important'


I've been saying that 2 of the 4 pillars of society are crumbling.
Family and religion are both crumbling.
Government and business are the ones left.
Government is stepping in and taking over what family and religion once provided.

It's slow and incremental.
And if you don't see it you just aren't looking hard enough.
 
I'm an atheist.

My family is from Mississippi/Tennessee and very religious, but I've been noticing that I'm not as alone in my thoughts as I once thought I was. It surprises me the number of black atheist that I run into now.
 



CEE DOG said:
Why do you Atheist(yes that is what you are stop telling yourself that lie) think you are the only folks who have not read and studied religion? You non-believers are worst then the fake church folks who quote the bible and scriptures wrong. You non believers love to brag as if you are the only ones who knows history. You have a complex that generally follows a pattern. The pattern you use is to try and pick a point of entrance from a conversation you assume the folks you are trying to get to see your point. Sorry that doesn't work for me. You don't have enough good senses to try that with me. Science is an assumption that has been proving wrong many times. What one finds to day usually turns out wrong the next day. You Atheist remind me of a group Engineers giving one pin on a five pin connector to develop a product. You know that one pin you assigned to so well, but you never take into consideration what could go wrong with the other four pins when connected to the box. In other words you put no safety critical thought into your design because you think yours is flawless and it ends up burning up the black box.
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So you're admitting that you KNOW the history of Christianity and it's plagiarisms by the Europeans, yet you STILL believe in the Jesus figure?! Interesting indeed.
 
First of all I am superior to you in always. Second of all you don't have the smarts to twist my words. Nice try though. When one is superior to one it is easy to draw him into war............. :idea: I always win.......
JayRob said:
So you're admitting that you KNOW the history of Christianity and it's plagiarisms by the Europeans, yet you STILL believe in the Jesus figure?! Interesting indeed.
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Surely you can conjur up a response more intelligent than your last two.
Your comments on the European religion of Christianity seem diametrically opposite of your beliefs and comments about White people, those same folks who created the Christian religion.
 
See this what folks who are searching do. You try to pick points that you assume you know and make it a basis fro your belief. The fact is you are mad because of an event that took place in our life and that made you mad at God. tell the truth and stop telling the lie. You were hurt by that incident and it still hunts you and bother you till this day. Its okay though, he still loves you.
JayRob said:
Surely you can conjur up a response more intelligent than your last two.
Your comments on the European religion of Christianity seem diametrically opposite of your beliefs and comments about White people, those same folks who created the Christian religion.
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Dr. Tripp said:
I'll be more than happy to have a relationship with God as soon as I get some proof of his existence.
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If I may ask this: is it because you can't track or trace or see or hear God that you believe He doesn't exist? What proof do you have that He does not exist?
 
The one thing that Non-Christians always say is annoying about Christians is that they try to convert, prove their ideas are correct. I find the opposite, atheists and Non-christians take more time and effort trying to prove Jesus was not the Christ. If you didn't believe in something why would you spend so much time and effort trying to disprove someone else's belief. If I do not believe in something I avoid it. I do not spend hours finding out more about it. They can't say the same. Every day something is posted about religion they go out of there way to comment. I was taught people study what they really desire. Maybe you folks are telling yourself a lie and that is why you are so mad............. :idea:
 
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JayRob said:
Cee Dog, it amazes me that you're so pro-Black, but when it comes to religion, you're just like the White man who gave you HIS religion in the first place.
Before slavery, Africans had no form of Christianity. It was mere fable, stolen from previous religions and FORCED on slaves.

The Jesus myth is nothing more than a White European god that was plagiarized, copied and pawned off as a real god and savior.
Jesus is simply a replication of Horus, Dionysius, Quetzecoatl, Krishna, Jupiter, Zeus and other much older gods.
The Catholic church has all but admitted this yet folks go on believing in the Jesus character as if he was real.
Even the book of Revelation is virtually a word for word copying from the Persians.

PERHAPS people are becoming more educated as to these outright copies and plagiarisms being pawned off as something real and they're now rejecting such lies and untruths for what they really are.

Many Black folks are so ingrained with Christianity and this Jesus myth that they're afraid to do simple research and they fear being ostracized by family and friends, so they go on believing in a lie as if it was truth by many Black preachers who KNOW the history of Christianity, yet go on teaching fables themselves and lying to people just to bring in an income.:smh:
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someone doesn't know that Jesus was an african. :quiet:
 
CEE DOG said:
See this what folks who are searching do. You try to pick points that you assume you know and make it a basis fro your belief. The fact is you are mad because of an event that took place in our life and that made you mad at God. tell the truth and stop telling the lie. You were hurt by that incident and it still hunts you and bother you till this day. Its okay though, he still loves you.
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Why couldn't it be the fact that I've been enlightened more by commonsense and historical data? Any person whose willing should be able to research the fact that the Jesus character of the bible is a carbon copy of saviors and gods from previous cultures and religions.
As far as my personal life experiences, it won't and can't change documented history no matter how much you try and blame it on.
Christianity is nothing more than a plagiarized copy of documentation from previous cultures and religions. There's no doubt about it.
 



CEE DOG said:
Because you saw a white man on TV saying its there huh? Gotta love them white folks huh? :lol:
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Here again we go with the hypocrisy. Christianity is a product of Europeans, so why not criticize their religion like you do most everything else labeled as "White". Denial is hard for some folks to accept.
 
CEE DOG said:
The one thing that Non-Christians always say is annoying about Christians is that they try to convert, prove their ideas are correct. I find the opposite, atheists and Non-christians take more time and effort trying to prove Jesus was not the Christ. If you didn't believe in something why would you spend so much time and effort trying to disprove someone else's belief. If I do not believe in something I avoid it. I do not spend hours finding out more about it. They can't say the same. Every day something is posted about religion they go out of there way to comment. I was taught people study what they really desire. Maybe you folks are telling yourself a lie and that is why you are so mad............. :idea:
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Why do Christians spend 90 percent of their time trying to convert others to their religion every Sunday inspite of the history that proves it's a copied and plagiarized religion with a copied and plagiarized god?
Why do Christians proselytize more, than any religious or non-religious group on the planet? Why do Christians try to convince others that their god is the one true god? If it's true, it should be quite easy to prove such, but for Christians it's not because they can't go back and change historical facts and they certainly can't provide evidence that THEIR god is the one true god.
They can only depend on mere "faith" which is a mere belief, not proof.
 
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J C said:
I didn't know that. I thought he was a Palestinian Jew. However, does it really matter?
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the term middle eastern wasn't coined until the 1700's. in the days that Jesus walked the earth, that part of the world was Africa. It only matters because someone is on here talking about Christianity is the white mans religion, except the whole religion revolves around an African.
 
There's no valid historical evidence that a god-man named Jesus walked the earth, however there's evidence that the religion is of African origins and culture.
 
Jayrob, name one post on TSPN where folks who believe in Christ have tried to make you and the others come to Jesus? If anything you and the don't believe crew show up criticizing folks who believe. :idea:

JayRob said:
Why do Christians spend 90 percent of their time trying to convert others to their religion every Sunday inspite of the history that proves it's a copied and plagiarized religion with a copied and plagiarized god?
Why do Christians proselytize more, than any religious or non-religious group on the planet? Why do Christians try to convince others that their god is the one true god? If it's true, it should be quite easy to prove such, but for Christians it's not because they can't go back and change historical facts and they certainly can't provide evidence that THEIR god is the one true god.
They can only depend on mere "faith" which is a mere belief, not proof.
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CEE DOG said:
Jayrob, name one post on TSPN where folks who believe in Christ have tried to make you and the others come to Jesus? If anything you and the don't believe crew show up criticizing folks who believe. :idea:
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Don't fall out of your chairs. Yes, I am coming to JayRob's defense on this one.

No one has tried to make JayRob and others come to Jesus. However, there are others like me who have urged and encouraged him. I make no apologies for following the Great Commission. I'm about to do it again.

Come on, JayRob. Earnestly, tenderly, Jesus is still calling ... calling for you and for me. Come on home.
 
CEE DOG said:
Jayrob, name one post on TSPN where folks who believe in Christ have tried to make you and the others come to Jesus? If anything you and the don't believe crew show up criticizing folks who believe. :idea:
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It's interesting that now you don't even make an attempt to answer questions pertaining to historical facts and historical data as to the origins of Christianity. It's like you run from it like the plague to focus on minor sidebar issues.
I challenge you or anyone who desires to post the origins of Christianity and the origins of the Christian god named Jesus with factual data.

As far as folks urging me to accept the mythical Jesus, dacontinent unintentionally just made you look kind of foolish. I have other names but I won't bother to post them.
 
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And folks can choose not have it matter as such. And speaking as an agnostic, see it more an issue of core beliefs continuously clashing. Hence the exodus of folks having or believing in a religion.
 
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JayRob, I don't answer your questions because what you say don't interest me. I am not trying to change your mind. I don't care what you or anyone else believes. I am not into trying to debate people on issues that don't concern me dude. I am not one of these folks who tries to persuade folks to change bruh. You gotta understand I am not where you folks are from. I don't see life the same way. I have friends from all back grounds. Therefore I believe in letting folks be who they are. The problem with black people, especially educated black people is they all think they are smarter then each other. :lol: Stuff like that doesn't fascinate me. Ask Tpop33, AAMUpretty woman, Mike,TKbullbulldog, I could go on and on bruh. I am a city dude. I got friends from killers doing life to friends who are VP's. You can't draw me into a debate dude. :lol: Be you bruh its all good. :lol: You don't have to prove to me what you believe. I am not the giver or taker of life.

JayRob said:
It's interesting that now you don't even make an attempt to answer questions pertaining to historical facts and historical data as to the origins of Christianity. It's like you run from it like the plague to focus on minor sidebar issues.
I challenge you or anyone who desires to post the origins of Christianity and the origins of the Christian god named Jesus with factual data.

As far as folks urging me to accept the mythical Jesus, dacontinent unintentionally just made you look kind of foolish. I have other names but I won't bother to post them.
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major095 said:
the term middle eastern wasn't coined until the 1700's. in the days that Jesus walked the earth, that part of the world was Africa. It only matters because someone is on here talking about Christianity is the white mans religion, except the whole religion revolves around an African.
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Maj095, The first chapter of St. Matthew spells out Jesus' genealogy tracing it all the way back to Abraham. Abraham was born in Mesopotamia. He was a Semite which is defined as a group of Semitic speaking people of the Near East and North Africa, including Arabs and Jews. This is what leads me to believe Jesus was a Palestinian Jews.

Sure there were intermarriage and co-mingling See Moses/Zipporah and Solomon/Sheba.

Besides, I don't care whether Jesus was a African or a Jew. It's his teachings that interests me.
 
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