NEWS FLASH! PER SWAC COMMISH, DUER SHARP.............


jag4life said:
I disagree with this ruling, however the NCAA does not decide which team gets the conference's automatic bid. The conference determines who gets it, whether it be the regular season or tourney champ or whichever team if eligible. Conference tournaments are not required.
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Were you saying all of this when people were trying to tell you that the NCAA didn't ban teams from the SCG?
 
Herbert77060 said:
I told y'all this last week. It was posted in Third Coast last week. Allegedly, if a team wins that is not eligible for the NCAA tournament, the team with best conference record that is not banned will go as the conference representative......allegedly.
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Yeah, this revelation is not new. Over a week ago it was said all 10 teams would make the tournament before the NCAA made their ruling regardless of decision. Now, that the NCAA has made their ruling to allow all 10 school still stands. Nothing has changed.
 



Let's be honest. Southern will travel and JSU will travel and since it is in Houston I expect sTu and PV to be in attendance but keeping with the theme of being honest the Bama schools did not support the tournament when it was in Birmingham not to mention Pine Bluff, Valley or Alcorn. Hell Grambling didn't even show up when it was in Bozier City.

Also, remember each school is having to purchase $25,000 worth of tickets/passes so you may have been getting some grumbling from the ineligible schools having to purchase tickets/passes for naught or who were sending only one team.

This decision is about money...nothing more. If other schools in the conference would pull their weight attendance-wise this fancy dancing may not have been necessary.

We need to support the tournament whether we have schools in it or not but I KNOW that ain't gon' hap'm cap'm.

So, from a financial standpoint I can't blame the commish for trying to get the revenue.


JayRob said:
And like the Bama State coach said, the decision was made with two weeks left in the season.
The SWAC knew at least three schools would be ineligible but when su suddenly was banned, this suddenly became a critical issue requiring a vote? Where was the voting at the beginning of the season before su got banned by the NCAA. Seems like this was done to appease or get su folks to Houston.
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Tigerpride said:
Were you saying all of this when people were trying to tell you that the NCAA didn't ban teams from the SCG?
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I never said the NCAA banned teams from the SCG. I said the SWAC voted to ban teams from the SCG if the NCAA banned them from postseason play.
 
I agree with you except for the part about the NCAA and Southern's athletics. If the NCAA was trying to work with Southern and give them time to produce the correct paperwork I think that is commendable on their part. They could have been heavy handed and shut them down and not cooperated with them at all.

Kenn Rashad said:
I don't disagree with the ruling, but I do disagree with the timing of the ruling. I understand the reason for doing it is financial, but you can't make these kind of decisions in the middle of the season. The same applies in large part to the NCAA's decision to declare Southern ineligible for postseason play back in December, when they began their season in November thinking that they would be eligible for the postseason.

The timing for both announcements stink.
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Herbert77060 said:
Let's be honest. Southern will travel and JSU will travel and since it is in Houston I expect sTu and PV to be in attendance but keeping with the theme of being honest the Bama schools did not support the tournament when it was in Birmingham not to mention Pine Bluff, Valley or Alcorn. Hell Grambling didn't even show up when it was in Bozier City.

Also, remember each school is having to purchase $25,000 worth of tickets/passes so you may have been getting some grumbling from the ineligible schools having to purchase tickets/passes for naught or who were sending only one team.

This decision is about money...nothing more. If other schools in the conference would pull their weight attendance-wise this fancy dancing may not have been necessary.

We need to support the tournament whether we have schools in it or not but I KNOW that ain't gon' hap'm cap'm.

So, from a financial standpoint I can't blame the commish for trying to get the revenue.
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The presidents voted in favor of SU being in the tourney, right?
 
J-State2DaPoint said:
The eligible team that advances furthest in the conference tournaments will receive the automatic berth to the NCAA championships. In the event of a tie (for example, all tournament-eligible teams are eliminated in the same round), the automatic berth will go to the highest-seeded team.


This gonna be funny and interesting. (And EMBARRASSING) :lol:
I hope all 4 I ineligible make it to the final 4 LOL
And the 10th seed and 9th seeds were last to be eliminated.
So they'd have to pick the 9th seed by default :lmao:

Let's Go SWAC. MY PREDICTION: 9th seed goes to the NCAA.

I kinda screwed that up but y'all get what I'm saying. Lol
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Well. It is what it is.
 
JayRob said:
The SWAC would lose cause other schools are making adjustments and are successful. The NCAA can use those schools, along with the resources they're giving schools who are struggling with APR issues.
Heck, they were just on su's campus and they still couldn't get it right. Sounds like incompetence more than anything else.
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This is so wrong.
 



Jag-BR said:
when the ncaa came to su in 2009, greg lafleur told the fans and board members not to worry about it because it was nothing. he downplayed this so don't sit there and make bs comments when you know nothing. this could have been caught had he had any type of damn sense but he didn't care.
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So why didn't the folks who came in afterwards not check up on LeFleur's work just to be sure everything was in order just in case of an NCAA request for documentation?
You guys keep blaming LeFleur but the current administration's hands aren't all clean either.
And according to reports, the NCAA was on su's campus back in December but that didn't seem to help either.
 
JayRob said:
So why didn't the folks who came in afterwards not check up on LeFleur's work just to be sure everything was in order just in case of an NCAA request for documentation?
You guys keep blaming LeFleur but the current administration's hands aren't all clean either.
And according to reports, the NCAA was on su's campus back in December but that didn't seem to help either.
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So just because they couldn't fix what happened back then which was not their problem, they aren't good people?
 
Jag-BR said:
So just because they couldn't fix what happened back then which was not their problem, they aren't good people?
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That's what rubbed me the wrong way. The AD then was incompetent as yall have been saying and is responsible for the situation yall are in. That doesn't mean yall are some "cheaters" or trying to get over.

Emotional dudes I tell you.....
 
Jag-BR said:
So just because they couldn't fix what happened back then which was not their problem, they aren't good people?
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Who said anything about bad people? Seems more like incompetence than anything else.....unless there was clear intent on the current administration's part to hide documents.
 
In_The_662 said:
That's what rubbed me the wrong way. The AD then was incompetent as yall have been saying and is responsible for the situation yall are in. That doesn't mean yall are some "cheaters" or trying to get over.

Emotional dudes I tell you.....
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There you go again muddying the waters with nonsense.
 
In_The_662 said:
That's what rubbed me the wrong way. The AD then was incompetent as yall have been saying and is responsible for the situation yall are in. That doesn't mean yall are some "cheaters" or trying to get over.

Emotional dudes I tell you.....
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Dude, why are you "flaming" in this thread? What? Didn't you read the HNIC rule? No "flaming"?
 
Herbert77060 said:
What does that have to do with what I said? You don't think the presidents understand the economics of the tournament?
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You said you could understand why Duer wanted SU in the tourney for financial reasons when it fact it really wasn't his decision ultimately.
 
In_The_662 said:
That's what rubbed me the wrong way. The AD then was incompetent as yall have been saying and is responsible for the situation yall are in. That doesn't mean yall are some "cheaters" or trying to get over.

Emotional dudes I tell you.....
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There you have it.

You wouldn't believe what he said, when they sent him to Houston for the Final 4 to look for replacements for the bball coach. Dude said, he didn't come to Houston for that, he came to party. :smh:
 
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Devil's Gun Trigger Man said:
if they do do that, it could set the stage for a titanic legal battle. If they were smart the SWAC would get lawyers to sue the NCAA citing the APR as indirectly or directly disproportionately punishment for smaller, poorer conferences with few resources.
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Commentaries were made about the effect of the APR when it first started. I also wonder about these stories of players reading abilities at the big schools. It seems that the APR is not catching everything to say the least. However, those words in bold are very important. For years I wondered if they were.

I am going to have to do some more reading because things are hard to believe. This is sadder than sad. :(
 
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