Coaching Rumors - No Smack!


JSU/99 said:
Weve been under the same scholarship and practice restrictions for about 3-4 seasons now. And a smart coach wouldn't put an inexperienced squad out there unless he knew they were talented enough to win. Otherwise That's why you have jucos and transfers.
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No you haven't. We had a restriction on the total number of scholarship players on the team at 54. JSU does not have that restriction. We couldn't even offer partials.
 
I was one of the original Stump bashers. As a coach I should have known better. However if you go back to my posts I always said that when you change systems and philosophies there will be some rough times. I think year 3 is always the tell tale year for a coach. My only problem with stump is that he has poorly handled the qb situation a Southern. If it were me I would come out of this spring practice with 1 damn quarterback and roll with him.
 



JSU/99 said:
I'm basing my statement mainly off of what I've seen from from SU the last 2 years. His record the first 2 years is the same as Bell. I saw SU's last game against Grambling and they sure didn't look like a team ready to break out. In fact they looked about as bad as they ever looked with Mitchell. Also we have a tendancy on this board to equate close losses with improvement. I see people doing that with Valley as well. That's incorrect. Consistantly losing close games is a sign of bad coaching. A good coach and a good team will find a way to win those tight games. Mitchell hasn't. This isn't smack because I actually like SU as a strong rival. But from my vantage point, they should cut their losses with Mitchell. He's not a good head coach and his record has proven that. It doesn't take 3 years to learn to win in this conference. A good coach would've won more than 6 games the last 2 years. This is not a tough conference.
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I think valley is a whole other case. when take o er a program like that it is a 4 step process. First you have to become competitive. Then you have to when close games. Then u have to win consistently. then u win big games and championships.
 
jag4life said:
No you haven't. We had a restriction on the total number of scholarship players on the team at 54. JSU does not have that restriction. We couldn't even offer partials.
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Was that an internal decision? We've been at around 50 scholarships(60-65 athletes) for at least 3 years now.
 
JR said:
We had no choice. Pete recruiting classes left us with nothing. A lot never showed up and then Stump got in late and his initial class which was recruited late in the game had a bunch of those kids never to show up at SU at all. So basically he is working with the kids who had the grades to stick around from Pete's team and last year's Freshmen who he had the time to recruit. Those guys showed up and played. Comegy has taken the JC route to plug some key holes over the years. That is just his way of doing business. Pete didn't do that and Stump couldn't do that in fear of what might happen even more with the APR situation. Your coach rolled the dice and it paid off for him with a kid like Casey. It has been well documented how bad the program got left by Pete. Even Comegy would have needed 3 years to win at SU. One thing you can say about Bell. He had kids that were not going to cause you any APR issues. So Comegy didn't walk into that as a mess. He gutted JSU team on his own because he didn't like Bell's talent level. Stump inherited a gutted SU team with a few holdovers. Even before Pete was let go, he was not allowed to bring any more transfers in. He mentioned it himself that he wouldn't do it anymore once the NCAA started hovering around his last 3 years. This didn't just start once Stump got there. It was already happening at SU. We just gave too many prop kids opportunities until it burned us.

As for losing the close games. Some were on the coaching staff and others were on the players. Dropping sure balls or fumbling in critical situations that could have iced or won games. Not to mention missing XPs or key FGs. I agree the SWAC aint that tough of a conference to win. But depending on how you want to build your team it will either be a quick fix or 2-3 year process. I am sure there are coaches who can walk into SU and outscheme these SWAC coaches. But the key is finding one that can do that right away. Pete's first staff came in and did that.
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Before Bell I would've been right there with you. But if that debacle didn't teach me anything, it taught me that coaches show themselves right away. The light doesn't just come on at some point, they either have it or not. Yes teven good coaches can struggle in a bad situation, but this isn't the NFL where parity is the rule. A good coach would've had you at 4-6 wins the first year and at least 7 last year. In this day in age, if a coach can't lead my traditional SWAC power to at least a winning record by year 2, there's a serious problem. Again, this is experience talking. I hoped against hope Bell would finally get it and latched onto any sign that his program had turned the corner. But I was just fooling myself. Right now, in all due respect, I think that's what Mitchell backers are doing. Fooling yourselves if you think the program under him will ever turn a corner.
 
I think Stump has enough right now to win the SWAC next year.........The only conference game S.U. was blown out in was the Grambling game. S.U. win the three games below and we are 7-4

24-28 Jackson St
20-23 PV
21-22 UAPB

With these three wins next year, holding par with the Bama(s) and avenging a 5 point loss to FAMU along with TXSU having to come into Baton Rouge, it is attainable and conceivable for the Jags to enter the Bayou Classic with a 9-1 record....
 
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emptyright said:
I was one of the original Stump bashers. As a coach I should have known better. However if you go back to my posts I always said that when you change systems and philosophies there will be some rough times. I think year 3 is always the tell tale year for a coach. My only problem with stump is that he has poorly handled the qb situation a Southern. If it were me I would come out of this spring practice with 1 damn quarterback and roll with him.
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Now that I agree on. I think most of the Jag Nation agree on that. Especially when you have young Qbs. I think JP Douglas will be the starter going into next season.
 
If I were the head coach at southern I would approach it like this. I would spend this spring getting my running game in order. Find out what run concepts we execute best. I would not go into the season with junk in the running game. Now as far as the qb's go. I would get my qbs used to our base passing concepts. After 5 or 6 practices somebody had better step and lead or I know im screwed. After a summer of 7 on 7 the passing game should be in order. The first week of fall camp would be to make sure the qb spot is solidified then we going into our gameplanning.
 
I am the type of Jag fan that will support whomever is at the helm of any Jaguar sports team. With that being said, while I admire Stump's hard work and intensity to better the program off the field, he simply just does not have it on the field. Someone said it best in a earlier post that this is not a difficult conference, and perhaps could be said that this past season was mediocre for all teams at best. However when it comes to X's and O's, recruiting, teaching fundamentals, changing schemes...this guy just doesnt have it. There are those who see the efforts that he is making in turning the program around and all that is well and fine, but it is not translating into wins. And your success as a coach at any level is determined by your wins and losses. Does Stump have potential to get better on the field? Yes! Does Southern have the time to allow him to develop into a better coach while the attendance is on a decline resulting in less funds to support the program? I would say no. One thing that I saw this past season occurred at a game when a defensive timeout was called. Now even if it is the D.C.'s responsibility to get the players ready for the next play coming out of the timeout, the head coach should at least be somewhere in the huddle. Our HC was standing about 40 yards away on the sidelines looking uninvolved. Needless to say, I was pissed :angry:to see something such as that also what message does that send to your players!: Our revolving QB issue last year was just plain embarrassing and a mess and any opposing DC knew how to rattle each of our QBs and which blitzes were most difficult to be picked up by each. I can tell you know that if you blitz Dray Joseph from the middle, you will get a sack or a badly underthrown ball. The backside blitz from the end was difficult for JP to pick up because many times he could not even see if any of his receivers had altered their routes, resulting in a pass to an area where there was no one and it looked like either the QB or the receiver didnt know the play. Neither QB a decent 5-step drop or even 7-step drop. Our running backs tiptoe through the holes. All this is a laundry list that any decent coach would try to remedy or eliminate. The list could go on and on...but I digress. I do wish Stump a successful season if he chooses to stay, but if he chooses to go...then Godspeed!!!
 
Put it this way. Some head coaches are natural born leaders and can just flat out coach no matter what. On the other hand some coaches have to have damn good coaches around them to make them good. Stump is the latter. He has some mediocre coaches around him and it makes the hill extra steep. I do blame stump for southernss offensive problems. The blitz is the coaches responsibilty. An offensive coordinator has to manipulate the defense and keep them on their heels. Stump doesnt do that
 
JROCK said:
I think Stump has enough right now to win the SWAC next year.........The only conference game S.U. was blown out in was the Grambling game. S.U. win the three games below and we are 7-4

24-28 Jackson St
20-23 PV
21-22 UAPB

With these three wins next year, holding par with the Bama(s) and avenging a 5 point loss to FAMU along with TXSU having to come into Baton Rouge, it is attainable and conceivable for the Jags to enter the Bayou Classic with a 9-1 record....
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I think Coach Mitchell may go out with a bang also. I've always noticed how the Jags were capable of putting at least 20 points on the scoreboard (no small feat) and in all conference games and the FAMU game, I believe the Jags led in overall passing yards. But I also noticed something that reminded me of my Golden Lions; one problem we've always had was that we came out scoring too late in the game. I noticed this with the Jags; remembering those sports posts during last football season, TOP was weakest for the Jags in the 1stQ but was strongest during the 2nd & 3rdQ of their games. Gotta come out of the tunnel scoring.

And those losses the Jags suffered, as you pointed out, were very close. So, if the Jags can keep up with their passing, and be steady on overall offensive yards and have longer drives, they may just take the SWAC this fall.
 
96lioness said:
I think Coach Mitchell may go out with a bang also. I've always noticed how the Jags were capable of putting at least 20 points on the scoreboard (no small feat) and in all conference games and the FAMU game, I believe the Jags led in overall passing yards. But I also noticed something that reminded me of my Golden Lions; one problem we've always had was that we came out scoring too late in the game. I noticed this with the Jags; remembering those sports posts during last football season, TOP was weakest for the Jags in the 1stQ but was strongest during the 2nd & 3rdQ of their games. Gotta come out of the tunnel scoring.

And those losses the Jags suffered, as you pointed out, were very close. So, if the Jags can keep up with their passing, and be steady on overall offensive yards and have longer drives, they may just take the SWAC this fall.
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An actual run game would do wonders for our offense.
 



All coaches might have good ideas, but all coaches don't make good decisions on game moves, adjustments, etc.
It doesn't take long to see which ones are good decision makers...it shows up in the team's play and game results.
 
Is Coach Stump Mitchell leaving

A source who is well-entrenched in the Southern University football program says quote "there is a possibility" Head Coach Stump Mitchell will leave the school and join the St. Louis Rams as an assistant coach. For what it's worth...no one seems to be shooting down that possibility at Southern. While Mitchell downplayed that talk all week...he did not return phone calls or text messages Sunday, Feb. 19. Sports Information Spokesperson Chris Jones says he expects to see Mitchell at the start of Spring ball on Wednesday, Feb. 22.

The Scoop
 
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MACKG said:
A source who is well-entrenched in the Southern University football program says quote "there is a possibility" Head Coach Stump Mitchell will leave the school and join the St. Louis Rams as an assistant coach. For what it's worth...no one seems to be shooting down that possibility at Southern. While Mitchell downplayed that talk all week...he did not return phone calls or text messages Sunday, Feb. 19. Sports Information Spokesperson Chris Jones says he expects to see Mitchell at the start of Spring ball on Wednesday, Feb. 22.

The Scoop
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Stump is gone Elvis Joesph is head coach
 
Re: Is Coach Stump Mitchell leaving

If I was Stump I would be gone from you ungrateful MF's...I like Stump, he was getting you all straight and trying to do it the right way..and all you all did was mess over him and sabotage him...Shame on ya'll!
 
Re: Is Coach Stump Mitchell leaving

This was discussed last week, but it would be hard for me not to take a 150% pay increase.
 
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