Jackson State and Alabama State Marching Bands Publicly Reprimanded


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Dr. Phreeze said:
Doc knew what the deal was...:clap:

Me, SOGgy and MB had a debate about that recently. :smh:
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Doc Greggs is one of SU's football biggest fans. Always was. That's why we used to play the fight song after every positive play SU had. LOL. One thing I can say about the Juke over the years is that they normally adhere to the rules. Since we don't have 10 Drum Majors and stuff. They pay attention to the directors who lead every song in the stands. Now sometimes with all these hurry up offenses, the bands get caught playing. So you really have to pay attention.
 
JR said:
Doc Greggs is one of SU's football biggest fans. Always was. That's why we used to play the fight song after every positive play SU had. LOL. One thing I can say about the Juke over the years is that they normally adhere to the rules. Since we don't have 10 Drum Majors and stuff. They pay attention to the directors who lead every song in the stands. Now sometimes with all these hurry up offenses, the bands get caught playing. So you really have to pay attention.
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Tell me why your fellow Juke has a hard time with the rules since he played under Doc as well?
 



Quite Frankly any band that gets multiple warnings during the game should not be allowed to play at all the rest of that particular game, including halftime or postgame.

If a band get a flag for their lengthy halftime performances ( which has happened), they should not be allowed to play the rest of the game.

And if those warnings continue throughout the seasons, those guilty bands will not be allowed to play at home games or travel to road games.
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kendrick said:
Quite Frankly any band that gets multiple warnings during the game should not be allowed to play at all the rest of that particular game, including halftime or postgame.
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Halftime and postgames? That's a bit above and beyond, aint it? Both have nothing to do with the game itself.
 
O'Bladerunner said:
Halftime and postgames? That's a bit above and beyond, aint it? Both have nothing to do with the game itself.
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Man, if the refs have to stop the game to constantly warn the band, obviously that affects the game. It is no different than fans who are a distraction. Those people are usually removed from the stadium.

If a band gets a flag at halftime, which hurts the team, that group shouldn't play for the rest of that evening.

Sorry, but if you want that type of activity to stop, then some drastic measures have to be taken.
 
kendrick said:
Man, if the refs have to stop the game to constantly warn the band, obviously that affects the game. It is no different than fans who are a distraction. Those people are usually removed from the stadium.

If a band gets a flag at halftime, which hurts the team, that group shouldn't play for the rest of that evening.

Sorry, but if you want that type of activity to stop, then some drastic measures have to be taken.
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You just opened the flood gates again Kendrick...:lol: Just wait and see. No questions asked
 
Dr. Phreeze said:
Tell me why your fellow Juke has a hard time with the rules since he played under Doc as well?
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I don't have a hard time with the rules....

I been told you and who ever else was reading SU is one of the only bands that usually follows the rules....

But the rules have have gotten tighter...

JR could tell you back when Doc was there... SU played while we had the ball... example.."It ain't over till it's over" and some of our spirit tunes.... what we would usually do is play soft while our team was in the huddle then when the play opened.. we opened up.... it just made the atmosphere that much more exciting..

I remembr MANY tims we would be playing "It ain't over till its over" and SU needed a TD.. and sholl nuff there it was.. and when we opened up... that shyt felt like a movie... maybe some of yall ain't experienced the up sie to doing it the right way...
 
Dr. Phreeze said:
You just opened the flood gates again Kendrick...:lol: Just wait and see. No questions asked
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you actually think that crap made a lick of sense?

Ain't what do a DRUNK rude fan have to do with the CROWD noise.... of course you remive a drunk ignant folk from the game....

hat has nothing to do with the crowd noise vs. band noise...

Maybe JR don't remember during 98 and 99.. but I do cause I was there... DOC used our band to HELP our team as well... while our team was on DEFENSE .. doc would let us BLOW!!! thats before the the opposing teams started cryin about it... hell 98 SU/JSU game was back and forth with it... but of course SU band was much more effective... that was before the louder jsu bands...


Its just a difference in opinion brah... I don't like the rule... whats so hard to understand about that... as long as the band is doing it to help their band... Im good... it's part home field advatage...
 
Dr. Phreeze said:
:tup:
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you back quoting me, but I am posting facts... you saying what JSU could have done.. but Im telling you what they used to do.... I saw no problem with it... that shyt got their crowd hype....

Those were the good days to me....

That may have somethin to do with the decline in attendance... the bands rocking the crowd was a huge part of people coming to gams and taking their kids... It was fun man...

Whats insane about this whole disagreement is MOST of the stadium during the time im talking about enjoyed it... maybe yal were the 1% in the crowd being stiff aeses....:lol:
 
How about the bands just show up without any instruments...and just sit there and watch the game? That way, they don't have to worry about reprimands, or hurting the team.

:idea:
 
kendrick said:
That would be great.
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That why no one take yo arse seriousl....smh

you right PVsax.. maybe the band should just come to the game with special made GR"Bend but don't break" pom poms and just sit on their arses...

This SWAC admin is the reason of the decline of the SWAC.. especially attendance ... if it was ran by some of you... our seats attendance would be no better than the SAIC
 
SAME OLD G said:
This post is proof that you did not bother to read the link that J4L posted. So let me try to educate some of you...AGAIN.

From the NCAA rule book

The rule is really simple. When the QB is under center or calling signals the bands need to STFU!
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But they are not doing it then, the refs are stopping the clock when the teams are in their huddle. I've witness them stopping the clock and helping the team get their play off when the play clock would have penalized them for delay of game. This had nothing to do with the bands playing when they go under center.


SUtrp96 said:
Sog...I read the rule..and understand it clearly...I don't need you to explain and get all bent out of shape..lol. I just think it is a b.s. rule..and I think it needs to be changed.

You are posting off of emotions and not common sense and facts...the others just want to sound "popular"....
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You got to remember that he's a band hater and thats all....

docmump said:
*Where's that yawning smiley?* Call me when the SWAC office suspend a band for playing.. Until then who cares.
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It's coming but it'll come when a game has no direct band competition and they don't need the additional income from the folks coming to see the bands in addition to the game. They'll never do it for the BC, SFC, LDC, BBC or any other classic where they know dam well how much revenue would be lost.

kendrick said:
If a band get a flag for their lengthy halftime performances ( which has happened), they should not be allowed to play the rest of the game.
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Most of the time when that happens it's because of other factors where there were delays from the school getting/giving accolades to other factors....i.e. School receiving checks or recognizing someone for something.
 
SUtrp96 said:
That why no one take yo arse seriousl....smh

you right PVsax.. maybe the band should just come to the game with special made GR"Bend but don't break" pom poms and just sit on their arses...

This SWAC admin is the reason of the decline of the SWAC.. especially attendance ... if it was ran by some of you... our seats attendance would be no better than the SAIC
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You are the only one who takes comments around here to heart.
 



Can someone PLEASE tell me...why are these rules being enforced in the SWAC NOW...when they could/should have been enforced LONG AGO?

What have these rules done to make SWAC football any better? It's not like our football teams are super cold on the field. Matter of fact, they are laughing stocks of college football, and it's not like the fans are coming to witness quality football being played.

Ain't no way you could have enforced these rules in the past, and expect schools (like the PV of old) to yield to them. When your football team is KNOWN for losing and is hardly ever taken seriously, and people still fill the seats, who do you think they are coming to see? And folks wonder why the Storm don't travel nowhere. We can't afford to waste money to travel to a stadium, just to sit on our horns.

But I digress...

The rule sucks...
The SWAC admins suck for trying to enforce this wack rule NOW...
The football teams make a parody out of football, and nobody will EVER take them seriously...

And then folks wanna complain about fan attendance and crowd participation...LOL


And it's only gonna get worse...much worse. Just wait and see...
 
When Jackson State plays in the Southern Heritage Classic, the game officials are usually from the Ohio Valley Conference, they never tell the bands to stop playing.

The SWAC is going to take the fans out of the game. :tdown:
 
FrostyNacho said:
also DaCon, they can not play during any kickoff...whether its a punt or after a TD

So that leaves timeouts and end of the quarter selections
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  1. The band playing while a play is in progress on the field is just disrespectful to the game.
  2. If your fight song /battle cry cannot be completed between the extra point and the kickoff, it's just too long.
  3. Play when people can pay attention to your playing.
  4. From NCAA FOOTBALL 2009-2010 RULES AND INTERPRETATIONS, here is Rule 9, Section 2, Article 1, Part b, Number 6:
    Persons subject to the rules, including bands, shall not create any noise that prohibits a team from hearing its signals.
    PENALTY—Dead-ball foul. 15 yards from the succeeding spot. Flagrant offenders, if players or substitutes, shall be disqualified.
So, all of the rest of the stuff - fines, suspensions, etc., comes from the CONFERENCE OFFICE and has nothing to do with a ruling by the NCAA.
 
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ASU said:
When Jackson State plays in the Southern Heritage Classic, the game officials are usually from the Ohio Valley Conference, they never tell the bands to stop playing.

The SWAC is going to take the fans out of the game. :tdown:
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and they going to be sitting back blaming their ADs and everyone else....all the while they going to be blaming the wrong people....

You change the atmosphere... expect the people to not come like they used to...
 
dacontinent said:
  1. The band playing while a play is in progress on the field is just disrespectful to the game.
  2. If your fight song /battle cry cannot be completed between the extra point and the kickoff, it's just too long.
  3. Play when people can pay attention to your playing.
  4. From NCAA FOOTBALL 2009-2010 RULES AND INTERPRETATIONS, here is Rule 9, Section 2, Article 1, Part b, Number 6:
    Persons subject to the rules, including bands, shall not create any noise that prohibits a team from hearing its signals.
    PENALTY—Dead-ball foul. 15 yards from the succeeding spot. Flagrant offenders, if players or substitutes, shall be disqualified.
So, all of the rest of the stuff - fines, suspensions, etc., comes from the CONFERENCE OFFICE and has nothing to do with a ruling by the NCAA.
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You're wasting your time. We've told them that all day yesterday and it hasn't sunk in...
 
First of all we have a commisioner who is an idiot. We have ref's who are dumber than our commissioner. Add that together and you just got dumbness all the way around. Don't really care about this rule, I just wanted to point out the Sharp is a dumb azz.
 
CEE DOG said:
First of all we have a commisioner who is an idiot. We have ref's who are dumber than our commissioner. Add that together and you just got dumbness all the way around. Don't really care about this rule, I just wanted to point out the Sharp is a dumb azz.
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Yep....

I'm still trying to figure out how a guy fumbles a ball at the 1 yard line into the endzone and then downs it in the endzone and it's not a safety. :confused:
 
Dr. Phreeze said:
You're wasting your time. We've told them that all day yesterday and it hasn't sunk in...
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Kid you speaking like your opinion is the highest and most almighty...

I and others have told yall all yesterday why we think it's dumb.. obviously it ain't sink in with you yet hasn't it?
Some of yall are a trip....lol
 
Keep enforcing the rule. Bands have lost their focus. They don't care about supporting the team. Their primary goal is to out do the opposing band, which is somthing that should be taken care of at halftime and/or AFTER the game, when the MAJORITY of FOOTBALL fans (who could care less about the band) have already left. I think I'll send the SWAC office a letter asking for a no tolerance rule regarding the band. Fan the flames a little more. :emlaugh:
 
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