SPINOFF THREAD: Band Scholarships based on Major??


In the thread talking about "Who can claim being the #1 Band", a couple of posters spoke about who should be getting band scholarships. DaContinent mentioned that only dancers who are majoring in dance should be offered money and Mustardman talked about only music majors/minors getting funds. This thread is NOT FOR ARGUMENT sake, but to get a true sense of where these opinions are coming from.

I, for one, think performance of a band/dance unit and who in the group are getting scholarships are mutually exclusive. I can only speak for myself (for the record, I turned DOWN money from band dept due to my academic scholarship), but I was creasing a lot of music majors through my performance and I was an engineering major. I know SUTRPT96 did so as well. As for dancers, the current captain of the Dancing Dolls is a Civil Engineering majors.
 
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I was just meaning, if you are doing it just for extra curricular, then let it be that. iKNOW you was (Are) a beast on the horn, Troop, 2002 trumpets wasn't no punks! But, I do think that the students who are dedicated and studying within the field of the craft should be considered for MORE monies from the music/band department (I know the funding is seperate).
 



IMO....

If you are a good player on your instrument it should not matter what your field of study is..
Just like Troop said during my time most of the folks that were kicking the most arse were NONE music majors. Not saying the music majors sucked or anything, but the folk that made you feel the "S" weren't mostly music majors.

Hell even the staff admitted this on several occasions.

Take a look at the cheerleaders.... many of them last days of Cheering are at SU.. but they still get a scholarship. You can do that with any sports.

We are out there putting in too many hours of the day putting in sweat, blood and tears for your players that are truly your leaders to not get anything because they are not a music major....

I had to turn down a scholarship that was offered to me in the music dept. at SU because I decided not to major in music... I understood that mainly because that was being offered to me by the late great Mr. Alvin Baptiste (r.i.p.) and he was offering that scholarship to me because of jazz.

But a band department scholarship shouldn't have that rule ....imo..

:tup:
 
It shouldn't really matter what your major is as long as you earned your dollars. I don't see you asking everyone that gets a athletic scholarship to major in something related to P.E.
 
Fiyah;1737422[B said:
]It shouldn't really matter what your major is as long as you earned your dollars.[/B] I don't see you asking everyone that gets a athletic scholarship to major in something related to P.E.

Aint it mane. Everyone gets scholarships at Grambling, the music majors get a little more but the band helps pay for one's education. These days and times, any money helps with the rise of education costs. The only way you will not get a scholarship is gpa falling under a 2.5 or you failed to take and pass 12 hours per semester. Then you will be marching for free because it's your fault.
 
I can only speak for myself (for the record, I turned DOWN money from band dept due to my academic scholarship), but I was creasing a lot of music majors through my performance


I was in the same boat, because I had full band scholarships to go to MVSU, UAPB, and AAMU, but I ended up taking an academic scholarship to go to Valley and was better than/ just as good as folks that were music majors or on full ride.
 
I had both full academic and band scholarship. The band scholly paid for what full didn't.

Marching band requires majority of your time and you get a 1/2 credit...GIVE ME MY MONEY!!! Music majors could get scholarships if they auditioned/applied. but once you receive the scholarship you have to participate in extra courses (marching band, symphonic band, woodwind ensemble, pep band, etc.). Some folks (music majors included) feel that participating in all those extra ensembles just isn't worth the money.

Some just were that daymn good to get it!! LOL
 
...DaContinent mentioned that only dancers who are majoring in dance should be offered money ...
Not exactly.

What I said is that scholarships (full) should be offered to dance majors. Then, as part of their commitment, the dance auxiliary (as an ensemble) should come from those dance majors. If there were not enough dance majors to fill the ensemble, then you could pull from others (partial schollys).

My point is that IF you have dance majors, recruit them to improve the dance auxiliary with actual technique and choreography and to get away from the rump shakin', grindin', humpin', and looking for the next stripper pole.
 
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It shouldn't really matter what your major is as long as you earned your dollars. I don't see you asking everyone that gets a athletic scholarship to major in something related to P.E.

...true :tup:

When I came through (and I'm pretty sure its the same today), the amount of scholarship money you received, depended on how talented you are; you had to audition and all that isht. I was a Business Adm. major on a full scholarship; I didnt pay for isht while I was at A&M, and graduated without any student loans. But with that full ride I had; I was a slave to the music department lol I had to play in every GD band there was: Marching, Concert, Stage Band, Brass ensemble, and Pep Band(which later changed to freshman only). Oh I wasnt trippin' about it, I enjoyed it; but that isht burned me out because since I graduated, I havent picked up my trumpet since (well maybe one or two times for the HC alumni band)...but ain stuttin' that d@mn trumpet lol! Just like HC this weekend; folks asking am I marching with the alumni band.......NOPE!! I'm marching in the stands with my white styraphone cup w/couvy in it lol!

"Snake"
 
I don't like the idea of full band scholarships being offered to only music majors. That's like football teams only offering full rides to football players who major in P.E. or Health, or some related field of study.
 
In the thread talking about "Who can claim being the #1 Band", a couple of posters spoke about who should be getting band scholarships. DaContinent mentioned that only dancers who are majoring in dance should be offered money and Mustardman talked about only music majors/minors getting funds. This thread is NOT FOR ARGUMENT sake, but to get a true sense of where these opinions are coming from.

I, for one, think performance of a band/dance unit and who in the group are getting scholarships are mutually exclusive. I can only speak for myself (for the record, I turned DOWN money from band dept due to my academic scholarship), but I was creasing a lot of music majors through my performance and I was an engineering major. I know SUTRPT96 did so as well. As for dancers, the current captain of the Dancing Dolls is a Civil Engineering majors.

I believe that the people who are not majoring in music are just as important but I do feel that people who are majoring in music should get some type of special benefit like receiving a "full ride" and people who are not majoring should get like a $5500 or at least half of their college tuition paid for that way you the people (who are not majoring in music) are having VERY GOOD deal out of their musical cooperation out side of their curriculum; keep in mind that every body can't major in music and their education should paid for in full (if this is the case) by other academic standards, IMO!
 
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I believe that the people who are not majoring in music are just as important but I do feel that people who are majoring in music should get some type of special benefit like receiving a "full ride" and people who are not majoring should get like a $5500 or at least half of their college tuition paid for that way you the people (who are not majoring in music) are having VERY GOOD deal out of their musical cooperation out side of their curriculum; keep in mind that every body can't major in music and their education should paid for in full (if this is the case) by other academic standards, IMO!


I would agree with that if the band dept. and music dept were one in the same.. But at SU they are seperate.
Also the key here is no one is majoring in "band"... Just like no one on the football team is majoring in football...

You have folk on the football team majoring in a lot of different majors and they often get full scholarships.
 
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Athletics has ALOT more money to give out because sports bring in ALOT more money to the school.

True... But that has nothing to do with none majors of music receiving less money than a music major from the "band" department.

Unless the music majors adds more value to the "band" only would it make sense.. speaking on my time at SU.. that wasn't the case.
 
I think if music majors were offered more money, it would attract more people, from say, the Music Dept. and that would have a direct effect on the band program (In theory).
 



at bama state any one participating in an ensemble and with the necessary talent could get a scholarship. You wouldn't get a full from marching band but you could get a grand a semester for marching band. 500 a semester for jazz 500 for wind ensemble etc. That way you could add up to a full scholy and even pocket some. If you wanted to drop one ensemble you wouldn't loose all of your money just the scholy from what you dropped. Only music majors are eligible for a department of music scholy though. Everything else is free game and that's how it's supposed to be.
 
I think if music majors were offered more money, it would attract more people, from say, the Music Dept. and that would have a direct effect on the band program (In theory).

Maybe attract more people to the music department.. but the band NEVER had a problem with attracting people...

The band shouldn't be the vehicle that gives more to music majors to attract more music majors for the music department... they have several parts of the music department that should do that.
 
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