Health care reform: How it might work for real people


Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
You sir are full of shyt....Because the POOR kids with the grades I had were offered ALL kind of money to go to these states schools....

If I wanted to go to Tulane I could have for free based off of my mother working there....

You acting like MY damn parents didn't pay taxes to fund STATE schools.... MY family PAID into that so.. why are you bringing that up... unless YOU came from AFRICA and went to a state school.....:retard:

I really wish some of yuo quit speaking in the NAME of the democratic party.....smh
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Man do you even know WTF you are arguing about? You just proved my dayum point. Your parents paid taxes and you benefited. But to some folk who don't have kids and payed taxes into SU you freeloaded. That was my point from the get go. When people are using the system its call good. They just want to complain about the parts they aren't using. Well that isn't how it works. For instance the part you think you aren't using such as public colleges is what gets you productive citizens instead of the freeloaders you're complaining about. It gets you all kinds of research that betters your life. But again all this is ignored because some bum on the corner got a free band-aid. :retard:

I often wish we would cut all public services just to watch all these folk batchin and whinnin turn around and beg for them.

Democratic party my arse. Its fuggin common sense folk. :shame:
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

BLAQUE PRINCE said:
Man do you even know WTF you are arguing about? You just proved my dayum point. Your parents paid taxes and you benefited. But to some folk who don't have kids and payed taxes into SU you freeloaded. That was my point from the get go. When people are using the system its call good. They just want to complain about the parts they aren't using. Well that isn't how it works. For instance the part you think you aren't using such as public colleges is what gets you productive citizens instead of the freeloaders you're complaining about. It gets you all kinds of research that betters your life. But again all this is ignored because some bum on the corner got a free band-aid. :retard:

I often wish we would cut all public services just to watch all these folk batchin and whinnin turn around and beg for them.

Democratic party my arse. Its fuggin common sense folk. :shame:
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So what do you say to the MAJORITY who attended PUblic college came out owing 35 - 60k..not counting INTEREST... that landed a job making 23-34k a year?

They ought to be thankful huh?

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Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
So what do you say to the MAJORITY who attended PUblic college came out owing 35 - 60k..not counting INTEREST... that landed a job making 23-34k a year?

They ought to be thankful huh?

:lol:
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They should be glad they didn't go to Tulane and come out with $100-150K loans.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
So what do you say to the MAJORITY who attended PUblic college came out owing 35 - 60k..not counting INTEREST... that landed a job making 23-34k a year?

They ought to be thankful huh?

:lol:
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They shouldn't vs owing MORE than 35-60K and landing a job making 23-34K owing nothing and earning nothing? Again you prove my point. Use the system and then batch about paying taxes after you're done.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

BLAQUE PRINCE said:
They shouldn't vs owing MORE than 35-60K and landing a job making 23-34K owing nothing and earning nothing? Again you prove my point. Use the system and then batch about paying taxes after you're done.
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How about those who can't land a job because of how most of these companies view certain schools programs and either (pay them less or don't hire them)? They should be thankful too?
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

I believe in equal access for everybody.

But the truth of the matter is that access for everybody ain't equal. The rich and wealthy get more access to better things, compared to the middle and lower economic classes, who barely get enough to get by, if anything.

They drive better cars, live in fancier houses, they have better schools, the police and fire depts break their necks to protect their assests and keep them secure, and they stay in better neighborhoods. Banking, securities, and insurance regulators also do much more work for the wealthy, simply because they have more assets.

So why not tax them more?


Or here's a thought...

Why not do away with taxes based on income, and replace it by implementing a consumption tax?

On the surface, it sounds very appealing. But the cons, admittedly are kinda heavy. But it would be fair across the board.

I guess it could work in an honest, ideal world...but there is nothing honest nor ideal about the world we live in. Oh well...

~shrugs~

Or...how about we just have the 17% Flat tax? It sounds efficient, and the IRS could be completely dissolved.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

PVSAX99 said:
I believe in equal access for everybody.

But the truth of the matter is that access for everybody ain't equal. The rich and wealthy get more access to better things, compared to the middle and lower economic classes, who barely get enough to get by, if anything.

They drive better cars, live in fancier houses, they have better schools, the police and fire depts break their necks to protect their assests and keep them secure, and they stay in better neighborhoods. Banking, securities, and insurance regulators also do much more work for the wealthy, simply because they have more assets.

So why not tax them more?


Or here's a thought...

Why not do away with taxes based on income, and replace it by implementing a consumption tax?

On the surface, it sounds very appealing. But the cons, admittedly are kinda heavy. But it would be fair across the board.

I guess it could work in an honest, ideal world...but there is nothing honest nor ideal about the world we live in. Oh well...

~shrugs~

Or...how about we just have the 17% Flat tax? It sounds efficient, and the IRS could be completely dissolved.
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You can't do that because dissolving the IRS would eliminate RB's job.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

jag4life said:
They should be glad they didn't go to Tulane and come out with $100-150K loans.
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Tulane student population ain't that big... most of them folk at Tulane are someone's CEO/CFO/CHARIMAN etc... "most" of those student will be compensated one way or another...

You should know...there is a pay scale depending on what school you graduated from....

:tup:
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

BLAQUE PRINCE said:
Man do you even know WTF you are arguing about? You just proved my dayum point. Your parents paid taxes and you benefited. But to some folk who don't have kids and payed taxes into SU you freeloaded. That was my point from the get go. When people are using the system its call good. They just want to complain about the parts they aren't using. Well that isn't how it works. For instance the part you think you aren't using such as public colleges is what gets you productive citizens instead of the freeloaders you're complaining about. It gets you all kinds of research that betters your life. But again all this is ignored because some bum on the corner got a free band-aid. :retard:

I often wish we would cut all public services just to watch all these folk batchin and whinnin turn around and beg for them.

Democratic party my arse. Its fuggin common sense folk. :shame:
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I'm not trying to throw any sideways smack, but the perfect example of that Texas Gov. Perry (along with others). He whine and scream about socialism, how he don't won't the government telling him what to do but as soon as hurricane Rita tagged dat ass, he was the first in line for government support, but yet he got fools following every line of BS he throws.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
Tulane student population ain't that big... most of them folk at Tulane are someone's CEO/CFO/CHARIMAN etc... "most" of those student will be compensated one way or another...

You should know...there is a pay scale depending on what school you graduated from....

:tup:
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Race also. Folks of other persuasions can graduate from the so called lowest of the schools and still make more than a different ethnic group from an Ivy league school.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

PVSAX99 said:
I believe in equal access for everybody.

But the truth of the matter is that access for everybody ain't equal. The rich and wealthy get more access to better things, compared to the middle and lower economic classes, who barely get enough to get by, if anything.

They drive better cars, live in fancier houses, they have better schools, the police and fire depts break their necks to protect their assests and keep them secure, and they stay in better neighborhoods. Banking, securities, and insurance regulators also do much more work for the wealthy, simply because they have more assets.

So why not tax them more?


Or here's a thought...

Why not do away with taxes based on income, and replace it by implementing a consumption tax?

On the surface, it sounds very appealing. But the cons, admittedly are kinda heavy. But it would be fair across the board.

I guess it could work in an honest, ideal world...but there is nothing honest nor ideal about the world we live in. Oh well...

~shrugs~

Or...how about we just have the 17% Flat tax? It sounds efficient, and the IRS could be completely dissolved.
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I would love a flat 17% tax...
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

ROYAL BLUE said:
YES, YES, YES.....................!

This nation was set up and established to get away from high taxation, and we got fools in our own back yard trying to enslave their own people with monetary enslavement. Think about it. The government is suppose to run America like you would run your immediate family. You know there will be some folks in your family that will refuse to carry their load. You know folks in the family gone beg, steal, borrow, and etc. You also know there may be a handicap person in the family, and that's when the family come together and help the person that can't help his/herself. What about the clown talking bout he aint got this, and he aint got that? A good strong family would encourage him and give him what he "NEEDS", and tell him to work for wht he wants. This is called "TOUGH" love. You want to give it to him.her, however that will only mentally handicap them, and they will never feel the "PRIDE" of doing it themselves. Remember the movie "The Pursuit of Happiness"? You can't help but cry and be inspired by seeing schit like that, and it's just too bad Americans are getting away from being tough, independent, and self-reliant. We use to cast all our burdens on the Lord, now we cast all our burdens on the government.....and we wonder why we in the shape we in!?:shame:
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Ideally, I agree with you. But families these days (even the immediate ones) don't really support their own. It's all about what we can get in return. The "it's all about me" attitude is what has us in this mess in the first place.

I don't consider it as mentally handicapping someone if you can afford to give of yourself to those who can't afford it.

It's all about "faith, hope and charity", and I assume you know what the greatest of these is. Unfortunately, a lot of us have lost sight of this.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

bluedog said:
I'm not trying to throw any sideways smack, but the perfect example of that Texas Gov. Perry (along with others). He whine and scream about socialism, how he don't won't the government telling him what to do but as soon as hurricane Rita tagged dat ass, he was the first in line for government support, but yet he got fools following every line of BS he throws.
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Don't see the smack here cuz I can't understand the new obsession with Perry for SHAT. The mofo was about to take peoples land and help build a dayum highway on OUR dime that we couldn't use to open up trade with Mexico and Canada and was gone pay a Spanish company to build it on top of that. But these tea baggers over here praisin the cat like a Messiah all because he talks this shat about revolution and fightin Washington.
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
How about those who can't land a job because of how most of these companies view certain schools programs and either (pay them less or don't hire them)? They should be thankful too?
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Who told them to go to those schools?
 



Re: Healthcare Part II

BLAQUE PRINCE said:
Bulgaria has a 10% tax rate. You should give them a look.
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Maybe you should... no one is stopping you.....

Seems like you looked into it already...Check and see if they are more socialist than we are becoming.. if so.. that would be a perfect fit for you...
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
More than likely YOU.... Cause I know some PV folk that finished from there and down here in the exact situation I mentioned...

:tup:
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Maybe you got them confused with you SU grads that can't calculate your taxes. :shame:

From what you talkin about in that other thread ya'll for sure ain't runnin no businesses. :lol:
 
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Re: Healthcare Part II

BLAQUE PRINCE said:
Maybe you got them confused with you SU grads that can't calculate your taxes. :shame:
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Naw.... They did what you told them to do..."Come to PV"... they did that and took out loans and now in a fuked up situation... what you got to say to that? "They ought to be glad?"
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

BLAQUE PRINCE said:
Maybe you got them confused with you SU grads that can't calculate your taxes. :shame:

From what you talkin about in that other thread ya'll for sure ain't runnin no businesses. :lol:
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You have no clue son.. you really don't...

If I was running a business I wouldn't be a tax cheat like you and have the good sense to hire a tax consultant.... That's what smart people do, who expertise is in what ever the product is...Don't say nothing when RB come get your ass.... :lol:
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
Naw.... They did what you told them to do..."Come to PV"... they did that and took out loans and now in a fuked up situation... what you got to say to that? "They ought to be glad?"
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Naw buddy. I sure the hell ain't tell nobody from over THERE to come to no PV. Thats like tellin you to go to MIT. :lol: I only tell folk that can cut it. So when they leave PV they are just like me...gettin flown to major corps for interviews along with other folk from serious programs. The only time I saw an SU person in those days was an airline stewardess. So yea...the are glad for sure. :clap:
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
You have no clue son.. you really don't...

If I was running a business I wouldn't be a tax cheat like you and have the good sense to hire a tax consultant.... That's what smart people do, who expertise is in what ever the product is...Don't say nothing when RB come get your ass.... :lol:
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But you from SU so you won't be running a business. However judging by the tax you're payin now you DO need a tax consultant. I had one for my biz for a VERY brief time. She fugged up right off the bat. She moved here after Katrina. Matter of fact I'm going see if she graduated from SU now. :lol:
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

This is NOT the smack board...conduct yourselves accordingly! y'all can sho nuff get off target quickly. :smh:
 
Re: Healthcare Part II

SUtrp96 said:
I would love a flat 17% tax...
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Perhaps, but the rich folks will cry because they will STILL come off of more money than anybody else (which is why they are crying now).

The poor folks will cry because 17% of a lil bit is more than they can afford.

The middle class will cry because they got the worst of both worlds.

Then you got to consider the loopholes (under the table dealings, folks whose income is soley cash, illegal stuff). They have no documentation of their earnings. So they evade the flat tax (kinda like what's happening now)

Truth be told, I believe that a consumer tax is the best option, even though the risk involved is great. At least this way, with every dollar spent, you know that a percentage of it is going to whatever the government needs it for.
 
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