The Alabama State Mighty Marching Hornet Guide to Being Loud
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dacontinent
Preacher
NO, these are not choir techniques. No one who knows anything about choir technique would teach (or allow) that foolishness.
Actually, it WAS a DCI thing back in the '70's. Personally, I think it is horrible.
Let's see ... "I want everyone who can see me to know that I am trying to play really loud so they will clap for me and believe that they ought to be impressed."
Tell me which is more impressive:
- Producing great volume without looking like you are trying at all.
- Producing great volume while you look like you are trying to coax it out of every organ, muscle, and blood vessel in your body.
In the old school, the answer was always (1).
"NOISE TALKA"
Mr. Hatedandloved
man fucc a chest tenor.:lol:
oh and I found where they got the sway, tip toe, lean back thang from, I was lookin for a song(malaguena) I played in high school and started watching DCI footage, then other footage. I found Michigan in 98 at the Rose Bowl. check out around 2:12, 2:57, 3:07, 3:13, 3:30...
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That's where they got it from, Michigan and other DCI corps. :lol:
:lol: y didn't i see this earlier?
PsiSnake
Well-Known Member
man fucc a chest tenor.
oh and I found where they got the sway, tip toe, lean back thang from, I was lookin for a song(malaguena) I played in high school and started watching DCI footage, then other footage. I found Michigan in 98 at the Rose Bowl. check out around 2:12, 2:57, 3:07, 3:13, 3:30...
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That's where they got it from, Michigan and other DCI corps. :lol:
....that goes to show what "type" folks in bands now.
I say that because a real jigga in the band woulda been like " hell nall, we'en doin(sway) that white boy corp isht". Listening to Michigan Band play and hearing their drum section play making me throw up. Reason being is because you got a lot of HBCU bands, i.e. Norfolk, BCC, Alcorn(I think heard something in 08)etc., that sound just like Michigan with the corp style playing. They done developed a corp sound like "white is right".
Thats sad.
"Snake"
DAHILL
Well-Known Member
Norfolk has ALWAYS had that sound though.... alot of other schools change their style up later.... but Norfolk has consistantly had the same style.
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
I can't get with that shyt myself.. Too many HBCU bands trying to judge themselves off of what the PWCs been doing.. If I am an HBCU I would be doing any and everything to CHANGE from what these PWCs are doing...
Why would a black (FUNK, STYLE) band be doing what a PWC is doing (total opposite from funk and style..STIFF)
Blankman2k5
Well-Known Member
That is just who they are. They just don't have that groovin' and funky mentality.
PsiSnake
Well-Known Member
...Norfolk need to stick with corp style then, if thats what they do.
How they gone mix that style with showstyle. That isht dont go with R&B music, it aint funky.
....Fa'real. Exactly what I'm sayin'. Tonal drums? :vomit:
See what it is; you got these lame ass band directors, assistants, etc., thats with that isht. Mofo's that need guidance themselves and listening to the wrong folks. They done let these white boys get to them by telling them that our style is easy blah-blah-blah; that their style is difficult, technical, and "we can play" BS. But REALLY what it was, was that them white boys couldn do what we do; they like it and wanna do it but caint because they aint got no d@mn rhythm; so what they do? criticize and downplay our style of playing and trick us into playing and sounding like them because they couldn do what we do. And here we is with the white man is right thang went right along with'em.
The isht sad bruh.
....who Michigan?
Not talkin' bout Michigan; I expect to see that what they did and any PWC. I was talkin' bout the type in Bama State band or any HBCU band really.
"Snake"
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
Man you don't know how much I hate that isht and neggas that think they know what they are talking about when they put these whites schools on this so-called high chair of excellence...:shame:
It got so bad we had HBCU folk bragging on SU for playing Stiffer than what we used to play.... by calling it "cleaner"... Thank GAWD that crap didn't last long.... And some of my own bought into that dumb isht....
What SU was doing in the 80's and 90's and have now picked back up in the 00's was playing with FEELING, EMOTIONS, GROOVE...STYLE, FUNK!!!
You mean to tell me....EWF, CAMEO, MICHAEL JACKSON, JANET....etc. had to sing and have their bands play STIFFER to be considered playing CLEAN?!?!
Too many neggas flooded the net not knowing WTF they were talking about and basically made it seem like these LESSER Southern St. bands (MEAC) that were following the tune of the PWCs were better....
GTFOOH....
PsiSnake
Well-Known Member
.....I mean like fa'real dawg, isht crazy man lol!
Please...PLEASE dont yall let SU fall for that crap. Most of the SWAC bands still holdin' it down. But I think I heard something comin' outta Alcorn that didnt sound right so they may be a casualty smh.
But I'm glad ain the only one who feels this way.
"Snake"
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
Mostly bads with no identity (or change identities like a pair of draws) are the ones who harp on playing whitish.... That's only because they could figure out how a SU was busting their arse every year and then would pull out a march or two or 3 make them scratch their heads and say...."Dayum Dat DJ made my Day"...lol
My bad only the folks that are real with themselves would say that.... The ones full of shyt would say..."Oh they just too loud".... Know they are proud advocates of playing with "Volume" now....
That's why I don't take most of them folk on here serious no more when it could to band... Because most of them don't know or really love this shat the way we did man....
But it is what it is....
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
Am I the only one that sees that what Mich and DCI groups are doing is totally different than what BamaSt. is doing? What BamaSt does doesn't look like someone picked that up from DCI. But, from what HBCU's have done over the years...and, it has festered.
What those other groups are doing is an overexaggeration (in their "showmanship" phase) of them "blowing" while their horns are pointed towards the press box. What BamaSt. is doing is just a bad habit....period.
What those other groups are doing is an overexaggeration (in their "showmanship" phase) of them "blowing" while their horns are pointed towards the press box. What BamaSt. is doing is just a bad habit....period.
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
Noticed that, too, huh?
XHALE9802
GRANDEUR...
naw, its the same its the results(sound) that are just different. :lol: I pointed out the parts that resembled to me, I didn't say they were taking the entire format. I think its an attempt to do what they are doing, just gone wrong. Like I said earlier, whatever happened to just pointin to the press box and play, in stands also.
yvette23
New Member
I'm still tryin to figure out how the shat got started because it's not just ASU. I've seen footage of other schools as well (although it's not quite as bad as the clip I posted before, but I have seen it); and I even seen some recent footage of a HS band doing it as well. :noidea: So is it HS students who got this "bad habit" and bringing it to college? Or are they watching the college students and basically mimicking what they see?
Either way, I personally don't like it. But that's just ME.
CHI96ALASU
Always Together
Oh, I know GOT DANG well who started it...but i don't feel lke smacking...All i know is that it wasn't the Alabama State University Mighty Marching Hornets. My problem is that we picked it up
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O'Bladerunner
And Down!
:lol:
Don't be sked of the frontline, CHI96....point em out.
And, Xhale...someone from BamaSt. would have to tell me that that's what they're doing. Cuz, if they were mimicing DCI's...that's an even worser impression of what those groups are doing.
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CHI96ALASU
Always Together
Originally Posted by CHI96ALASU
Oh, I know GOT DANG well who started it...but i don't feel lke smacking...All i know is that it wasn't Alabama State University Mighty Marching Hornets. My problem is that we picked it up and made it worser than anything in the pass
Scared? Oh no sir, by no means(and let it be known that i did NOT write the words worser or pass=past lol or any of the last 9 words from my quote)
but here are a few clips:
http://www.bandhead.org/video/southern-2007-enough-is
http://www.bandhead.org/video/jackson-state-2008-hey
http://www.bandhead.org/video/grambling-2008
and there are more...the point is i think this is sadly just an HBCU thing
Oh, I know GOT DANG well who started it...but i don't feel lke smacking...All i know is that it wasn't Alabama State University Mighty Marching Hornets. My problem is that we picked it up and made it worser than anything in the pass
Scared? Oh no sir, by no means(and let it be known that i did NOT write the words worser or pass=past lol or any of the last 9 words from my quote)
but here are a few clips:
http://www.bandhead.org/video/southern-2007-enough-is
http://www.bandhead.org/video/jackson-state-2008-hey
http://www.bandhead.org/video/grambling-2008
and there are more...the point is i think this is sadly just an HBCU thing
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O'Bladerunner
And Down!
:lol:
mustardmanSU_04
Arranger/Composer
I know when I hear a clip of SU.... I get chills up my spine bruh. There is PASSION put into the music at that there school. Shit, SU is a HUGE jazz band, ready to ack-a-FOOL EVERY time you hear "Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh, Ready, UP! 1,2.. BRING THAT MUSTARD!!!!" You know how they tell football players to "Leave it on the field"? Well, I know ANYTIME I played even one single, solitary note through my horn while at Southern, that note had a message behind it, wether the message be "F*ck you JSU!!!!", or "F*ck YOU TOO, upperclassmen", or "Hey, Keyunte (spelling), you didn't HAVE to punch me in the damn head when we played Head Bussa's in the bandroom, but since you apparently though it was necessary, Imma take it out on this horn, the fans, the punk-@$$ baritone players in the row infront of us, AND that band across the field....." *Sorry, that last one been on my mind for a while.....*
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SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
That right there is THE attitude of the "S".... Many try to imitate the output of that attitude but don't have the appropriate INPUT to produce it.
It was a time when some of the cats from our beloved "S" got on here and bought into that crap...The "S" is cleaner now....:retard:
That was nothing but outsiders trying to turn the greatest band against each other... Truth is SU ALWAYS been clean... SU always been technical.. Just listen to our arrangements of song vs. others....
Don't we all find it funny some bands will allow their trumpets to play "CHASE" aka "GET IT ON" but wouldn't dare play the entire song?!?!
SU play it though....
Getaway... I know we all heard the original and heard SU has the most difficult version, not because we made it difficult but because we are the ONLY HBCU I know of that actually attempt to play all the runs EWF played in the original....
It's those obvious things dumbasses who know nothing about music try to hide or cover up...
But just those two songs explain why SU is on another level from these other bands who are trying to OUT Southern SU these days...
Last time JSU played "GET IT ON" was in the 70's.. you ever wonder why since their trumpet butcher the dayum fanfare (The easiest part of the dayum song)every single year?
Peace and Hair Grease
mustardmanSU_04
Arranger/Composer
'Nuff said!!!:lecture:
kremesaver
"set your own standards"
I feel were alot of yall are coming from on folks adapting shyt thats taking them away from "who" we are as Hbcu bands. :clap:
On another note, as far as Bama st. goes, I think alot of yall are looking to deep into it than what it really is.
First of all, who ever wrote that thing about us tring to be funny is a fuk boy and is probably bitter because he belongs to a band who got their azz bust by Bama state. Love us or hate but you sure won't sleep on us...
Moving right along, that "swaying" thing is nothing that the band members adapted, imitated, or tring to do on purpose.
Some of them don't even realize they are doing it. When many of them get in a zone while playing those songs, they are focused on stinging those notes towards that opposing band. While doing so, along with that adrenaline and "crunkness" pumping, they tend to move side to side. Nothing more, nothing less.
I hope this will kill this "theory" that this is something they are "Tring" to do on purpose. Its just an aimless motion that the band doesn't even realize is going on until after they look at the tape.
On another note, as far as Bama st. goes, I think alot of yall are looking to deep into it than what it really is.
First of all, who ever wrote that thing about us tring to be funny is a fuk boy and is probably bitter because he belongs to a band who got their azz bust by Bama state. Love us or hate but you sure won't sleep on us...
Moving right along, that "swaying" thing is nothing that the band members adapted, imitated, or tring to do on purpose.
Some of them don't even realize they are doing it. When many of them get in a zone while playing those songs, they are focused on stinging those notes towards that opposing band. While doing so, along with that adrenaline and "crunkness" pumping, they tend to move side to side. Nothing more, nothing less.
I hope this will kill this "theory" that this is something they are "Tring" to do on purpose. Its just an aimless motion that the band doesn't even realize is going on until after they look at the tape.
yvette23
New Member
Kreme, I said the EXACT same thing before when it was just a few of them doing it. I said that they probably aren't even aware of it. :nod:
But then I saw that clip ("Don't funk wit my heart) and now I'm thinking otherwise. :smh: Even back in our day, we got in "da zone" as well, but I don't recall swaying. Yeah, we rocked side to side to certain songs (like when we played "Ole Bama State Spirit), but nothing like what they do now.
I'm not saying that they do it on purpose. Maybe they aren't aware of it until they watch the footage. I just think it looks undisciplined, IMO. :tup: