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Mr. Tiger,
What is the purpose of this? I am asking from the following standpoint. The number 1 reason we don't participate in the playoffs is real simple. Our presidents (all 10, not just 3) don't want to. LET ME REPEAT, THEY DON'T WANT TO. Maybe I wasn't clear. They DON'T WANT TO.

You can try to look up all the rules, bylaws, etc. you want and it doesn't matter. You are worried about the wrong thing at the wrong time if the playoffs are your goal. If you want the playoffs, your first job is to convince your president (of your school) to support it. Right now, they don't. It is that simple. As long as they don't, nothing else matters.


Now why they don't, imho, first it is a money loser, second they rarely bracket the teams fairly, third, the way they have if set up, if it does make money, they NCAA is going to make most of it.

IMHO, the reason the playoff are there is to keep the 1AA out of the Bowl Money of 1A. Most of the 1AA schools do not have a big enough following to support a bowl structure. Think about it. This 1AA crap is only in football (I know they call it FCS now) You can play them in the regular season, but when the Bowl Season (big money time) comes, it's a different story.

Well, Black College football doesn't have that problem, we can support post season games and End of the Season Classics. I would much rather go to Birmingham (even though Birmingham sucks) and watch Southern or Grambling play Jackson St than to go to Butholeville Montana for some meaningless ass playoff game (IMHO the whole playoffs are virtually meaningless, nobody gives a damn about them).

Back when we had the Heratige Bowl, it was listed in most publications with all the rest of the D1A bowls. Damn near if not every year, the SCG has outdrawn the 1AA Championship Game and the Heratige Bowl had a better TV contract also.

Appalation State got 10 times more publicity from beating Michigan than winning them sorry ass playoffs.
 
Lewis said:
Mr. Tiger,
What is the purpose of this? I am asking from the following standpoint. The number 1 reason we don't participate in the playoffs is real simple. Our presidents (all 10, not just 3) don't want to. LET ME REPEAT, THEY DON'T WANT TO. Maybe I wasn't clear. They DON'T WANT TO.

You can try to look up all the rules, bylaws, etc. you want and it doesn't matter. You are worried about the wrong thing at the wrong time if the playoffs are your goal. If you want the playoffs, your first job is to convince your president (of your school) to support it. Right now, they don't. It is that simple. As long as they don't, nothing else matters.


Now why they don't, imho, first it is a money loser, second they rarely bracket the teams fairly, third, the way they have if set up, if it does make money, they NCAA is going to make most of it.

IMHO, the reason the playoff are there is to keep the 1AA out of the Bowl Money of 1A. Most of the 1AA schools do not have a big enough following to support a bowl structure. Think about it. This 1AA crap is only in football (I know they call it FCS now) You can play them in the regular season, but when the Bowl Season (big money time) comes, it's a different story.

Well, Black College football doesn't have that problem, we can support post season games and End of the Season Classics. I would much rather go to Birmingham (even though Birmingham sucks) and watch Southern or Grambling play Jackson St than to go to Butholeville Montana for some meaningless ass playoff game (IMHO the whole playoffs are virtually meaningless, nobody gives a damn about them).

Back when we had the Heratige Bowl, it was listed in most publications with all the rest of the D1A bowls. Damn near if not every year, the SCG has outdrawn the 1AA Championship Game and the Heratige Bowl had a better TV contract also.

Appalation State got 10 times more publicity from beating Michigan than winning them sorry ass playoffs.
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You forgot to mention that the presidents realized we make money for those small PWCs when we play them and it is best to have a 9 game mandatory schedule and keep the money in the SWAC.

Stop texting when you ride your bike between classes.
 



JayRob said:
simply to play in a playoff game, a game that generates zero dollars. That would be economic suicide for both schools who are already struggling to keep current athletic programs afloat.
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STC agrees!

Bring back the Heritage Bowl and let's make sum money. Start it off in a good location with a normal size stadium and pack it with weekend long events and let the fans and band and teams do the rest.

Schedule pwc schools and beat them.
 
I will address Lewis' points. You are right. The presidents DON'T want the playoffs, but too many people on this board are fooled into believing it is a money issue, or because games have to be moved, or that the SCG is a great economic boost to SWAC programs. It is because of FEAR and FEAR alone. No games have to be moved. Once the SCG money is split 10 ways it doesn't amount to any significant money. SWAC schools have hosted playoff games in past so if we beat SOMEBODY OTHER THAN OURSELVES we would host them again. And the 9-game mandate will not add any more money to our programs. It didn't in the past and will not do so now. It is just a way to isolate ourselves so that we won't have to compete outside our conference. That's my point. So let's stop bringing up the Bayou Classic moving debates and other crap when it is clear FEAR is the reason nothing else.
 
I don't mean anything personal by this, but i hate it when black folks do that. As soon as someone doesn't do what you want them to do, the reason gotta be some childish ass stuff like "they scared". Them presidents aint scared of no playoffs, and if you really think that you are really a lost soul with 5th grade thinking.

At worst case, if we went to the playoffs and lost a bunch of times, they would just blame the coach and then fire him. It's that simple, and they ain't gonna take none of the blame. If it gets a little hot (which it probably won't) then fire the AD also. But they ain't gonna take none of the blame and they surely have no fear of that.

If you want to know part of the problem, no only are they NOT scared of the playoff, they aint scared of you either. That why they don't give a shit about what you think.

The bottom line is the average HBCU fan is more (far, far more) concerned about our traditions and rivals than chasing that playoff mess so except for a few diehard, hardcore fans, no one cares about that, and yall just don't get that.

For example, if Southern was scared, we would not have played Northwestern 10 years in a row, we would not have played Tulane, or McNeese, or U. of H. or UL-L this coming year, or Tenn. State (they kinda like a white school too) for the last 3 years and this one.

We could make a deep run in the playoff, and our fans will be more Concerned about if we won the Classic and beat Jackson State.

So it is what it is.

But it aint about fear.
 
as for money and playoff games... there may not be a measurable direct economic impact in the form of a check, but that doesn't mean your school doesn't benefit from a playoff appearance. just like the ncaa tourney, after you appear on national television in one of those games, you get a very nice bump in applications to your school lasting a few years. that equals more money for your school.
 
major095 said:
as for money and playoff games... there may not be a measurable direct economic impact in the form of a check, but that doesn't mean your school doesn't benefit from a playoff appearance. just like the ncaa tourney, after you appear on national television in one of those games, you get a very nice bump in applications to your school lasting a few years. that equals more money for your school.
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On What? Most of them playoff games ain't on no national tv. The NCAA tourny is D1A not D1AA. Big Difference there. The Bowl games get that exposure, the D1aa playoffs don't.

The Heratige Bowl had a better TV deal than the 1aa Championship game.
 
Lewis said:
On What? Most of them playoff games ain't on no national tv. The NCAA tourny is D1A not D1AA. Big Difference there. The Bowl games get that exposure, the D1aa playoffs don't.

The Heratige Bowl had a better TV deal than the 1aa Championship game.
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How do you compare one game to the whole playoffs? First round game or two on ESPN2. All quarterfinals on ESPN family (whether it ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN360, etc). Both semifinals on ESPN2. Championship game on ESPN2. The Heritage Bowl was on what - NBC?

The NCAA tournament? That is a Division I tournament. All of them are, and yes - even the football one. Hence, the Division I national championship trophy sitting in Richmond's athletic department. Learn the nomenclature, it renders your argument ineffective.

As the other poster said, the playoffs lead to "soft money" or a "non-measurable direct economic impact". Schools do benefit in the playoffs because of that.

The SWAC is a different beast. The poorly-funded athletic departments need that "hard money", a more "measurable direct economic impact", as obviously being #1 in the nation in FCS attendance is not changing the status quo of the conference school's economic or competitive state.
 
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Actually, the Heritage Bowl was on ESPN, the main network. It was a featured bowl game like the other non-New Year's Day bowl games.
 
TexasTerror said:
How do you compare one game to the whole playoffs? First round game or two on ESPN2. All quarterfinals on ESPN family (whether it ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN360, etc). Both semifinals on ESPN2. Championship game on ESPN2. The Heritage Bowl was on what - NBC?

The NCAA tournament? That is a Division I tournament. All of them are, and yes - even the football one. Hence, the Division I national championship trophy sitting in Richmond's athletic department. Learn the nomenclature, it renders your argument ineffective.

As the other poster said, the playoffs lead to "soft money" or a "non-measurable direct economic impact". Schools do benefit in the playoffs because of that.

The SWAC is a different beast. The poorly-funded athletic departments need that "hard money", a more "measurable direct economic impact", as obviously being #1 in the nation in FCS attendance is not changing the status quo of the conference school's economic or competitive state.
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"Soft money" as you call it will only benefit those teams seen on the major ESPN network, not ESPN U, ESPN 360, or ESPN Classic. If, and only if your team makes it to the semi-finals, you may get a little more interest in your program, and that is it.

If Appalachain State and Richmond were given the choice to play in a classic that would involve a national TV deal and at least 50,000 people in the crowd or participate in the playoffs, which do you think they would take, the "hard money" or the "soft money."
 
number1 said:
Actually, the Heritage Bowl was on ESPN, the main network. It was a featured bowl game like the other non-New Year's Day bowl games.
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I swear it was on NBC...

I truly hope this isn't the case, but the scuttlebutt is coming from the
lips of knowledgeables.

I understand last year's Heritage Bowl will be the last. There was some
real fear that the game might lose McDonald's as its anchor sponsor, that
NBC had some concerns about attendance, and that the NCAA had told
organizers that the teams which compete in the new SWAC championship game would no longer be eligible for participation in the Heritage.
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http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-79131539.html
 
number1 said:
"Soft money" as you call it will only benefit those teams seen on the major ESPN network, not ESPN U, ESPN 360, or ESPN Classic. If, and only if your team makes it to the semi-finals, you may get a little more interest in your program, and that is it.
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Well, for a conference that's fan base is "hoity, toity" about their #1 in FCS attendance, "best" TV contract and money-making classics - you sure are not getting the "return on investment" for your athletic programs...why's that?

number1 said:
If Appalachain State and Richmond were given the choice to play in a classic that would involve a national TV deal and at least 50,000 people in the crowd or participate in the playoffs, which do you think they would take, the "hard money" or the "soft money."
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Playoffs. Their fans want additional home games. Their fans want national titles. While the economy drives a lot of things, I can assure you these teams are fine with their one money game a year and attempting to win a Division I national title. Even Jerry Moore said after the App St win over Michigan that it was big, but not as big as the national titles they had won.
 
TexasTerror said:
Well, for a conference that's fan base is "hoity, toity" about their #1 in FCS attendance, "best" TV contract and money-making classics - you sure are not getting the "return on investment" for your athletic programs...why's that?
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Yes were are. Just not putting it back into athletics.
 
TexasTerror said:
Well, for a conference that's fan base is "hoity, toity" about their #1 in FCS attendance, "best" TV contract and money-making classics - you sure are not getting the "return on investment" for your athletic programs...why's that?



Playoffs. Their fans want additional home games. Their fans want national titles. While the economy drives a lot of things, I can assure you these teams are fine with their one money game a year and attempting to win a Division I national title. Even Jerry Moore said after the App St win over Michigan that it was big, but not as big as the national titles they had won.
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We are getting nice returns. We are just not putting money into athletics at the rate that others do.

Look, the playoff debate is a good one because both sides make great points. I can understand wanting to go to the playoffs. That's my point of view, but I also can understand saying forget it because it is not profitable.
But I just don't believe profit is the reason we choose not to participate.
 



I don't understand this "losing money" talk for playoff teams. While it is true that the NCAA can get 75% of the NET gate, it is still a profit for the host school. From Championshipsubdivisionnew.com:

FCS Playoffs Netted Profit for JMU

HARRISONBURG - It’s not BCS money, but James Madison turned a small profit by hosting three rounds of the NCAA Division I-AA football playoffs this past season, according to the university.

Figured finalized last month show that JMU took in $37,301 on the three games, mostly in ticket sales, but incurred $22,462 in additional costs because of housing and meals for the athletes during the school’s Thanksgiving break.

That translated into a $14,839 profit.

JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne said the university benefited from the home playoff games, as much perhaps in exposure as from the modest profit.

“It absolutely was worth it,†Bourne said Thursday. “I think every one of the home games gives you a competitive advantage. It gives you a chance to show off your football program and what your facility is like. You had an ESPN game on your campus. It’s very difficult to put a dollar amount on that type of exposure.â€

For schools to host I-AA playoff games, the NCAA requires that they submit bids or guarantees of how much they will pay for each home date. The organization sets minimum bids that get higher for each round. To enhance their chances of securing home games, however, schools often bid more than twice the minimum, as JMU did last season to get contests at Bridgeforth Stadium against Wofford, Villanova and Montana.

The Dukes went 10-1 in the regular season and received the playoff’s top overall seed. Under NCAA rules, the top two seeds are allowed to host as long as they meet the minimum bid requirement - meaning that, as it turned out, JMU would have staged games at Bridgeforth Stadium without having to enhance its bid.

But the NCAA deadline to submit bids occurred during the regular season, and JMU - with two games left - did not know it would win out and earn a seed.

“We just wanted to do everything in our power to ensure that we played at home,†JMU vice president Charlie King said Thursday. “That was our strategy. If our crystal ball had been clear, if we had known we would have ended up with the No. 1 seed, we could have bid the minimum.â€

Madison bid $80,002.50 in the first round, $100,003.50 in the second and 120,001.50 in the third - and exceeded the guarantee for each game. The NCAA minimum bids were about $30,000 for the first round, and went up by $10,000 each round thereafter.

After sending off the check to the NCAA for the guarantee, a portion of the profits and a fee for hosting, JMU made $11,061.85 in the first round, $15,153.62 in the second and $21,768.27 in the third.

“When you’re bidding aggressively, you just hope you get out of there without losing your shirt,†Colonial Athletic Association commissioner Tom Yeager said recently.

In 2004, William & Mary turned a profit for three home playoff games by bidding only the minimum for each round. That worked out for the Tribe after it received one of the four seeds for the playoffs, meaning it would host regardless of its bid.

W&M made $52,782.05 over the three games, losing the third to JMU, which went on to win the national championship that year.

Would JMU consider bidding the minimum next season, putting itself at risk to play at a powerful regional opponent like Appalachian State or Youngstown State in the first round if it didn’t end up with a seed?

King said it was too soon to make that decision, but Bourne said he would “most definitely†continue to bid aggressively to assure the Dukes of home games.

During JMU’s recent run of football success, the bids came into play twice. In 2004, JMU was sent to unseeded Lehigh, where it won. In 2007, unseeded Appalachian State apparently out-bid Madison and hosted the team’s first-round meeting, which the Mountaineers won 28-27.

In 2006, Youngstown State was seeded fourth and bids never were a factor once the Dukes were determined to be the Penguins’ closest geographic opponent.

JMU averaged 14,194 fans per game over the three home contests.

I-AA Netted Profit
By Mike Barber, The Harrisonburg Daily News Press (VA)


For an average attendance of only 14K for three games, it's not a bad NET profit. (We still don't know what the payout from the SCG is.) And they get good press for participating in the playoffs, which leads to other tangible and intangible benefits.
 
Mr. Tiger said:
We are getting nice returns. We are just not putting money into athletics at the rate that others do.

Look, the playoff debate is a good one because both sides make great points. I can understand wanting to go to the playoffs. That's my point of view, but I also can understand saying forget it because it is not profitable.
But I just don't believe profit is the reason we choose not to participate.
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IMHO, it is not just that it is not profitable, when you have something that works very well, you just don't up and change it hoping that things will work out. Almost everyone I know wants the Bayou Classic on Thanksgiving Weekend, period. And them playoffs ain't worth changing it.
 
MsippiRattler said:
For an average attendance of only 14K for three games, it's not a bad NET profit. (We still don't know what the payout from the SCG is.) And they get good press for participating in the playoffs, which leads to other tangible and intangible benefits.
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And several week's worth of press...

The SWAC championship game opponents are announced. It goes quiet for what - two weeks, more I guess if the SWAC title game opponents are known even further ahead of time? And then the game is upon us.

There may be some smack talk on TSPN for the lead up, but on the national radar - even the FCS national media radar (i.e. Sports Network, CSN) - the game does not register a blip until right before.

Heck, the voting for some of the major FCS polls opened before SWAC title games in recent years! :shame:
 
MsippiRattler said:
I don't understand this "losing money" talk for playoff teams. While it is true that the NCAA can get 75% of the NET gate, it is still a profit for the host school. From Championshipsubdivisionnew.com:

FCS Playoffs Netted Profit for JMU

HARRISONBURG - It’s not BCS money, but James Madison turned a small profit by hosting three rounds of the NCAA Division I-AA football playoffs this past season, according to the university.

Figured finalized last month show that JMU took in $37,301 on the three games, mostly in ticket sales, but incurred $22,462 in additional costs because of housing and meals for the athletes during the school’s Thanksgiving break.

That translated into a $14,839 profit.

JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne said the university benefited from the home playoff games, as much perhaps in exposure as from the modest profit.

“It absolutely was worth it,†Bourne said Thursday. “I think every one of the home games gives you a competitive advantage. It gives you a chance to show off your football program and what your facility is like. You had an ESPN game on your campus. It’s very difficult to put a dollar amount on that type of exposure.â€

For schools to host I-AA playoff games, the NCAA requires that they submit bids or guarantees of how much they will pay for each home date. The organization sets minimum bids that get higher for each round. To enhance their chances of securing home games, however, schools often bid more than twice the minimum, as JMU did last season to get contests at Bridgeforth Stadium against Wofford, Villanova and Montana.

The Dukes went 10-1 in the regular season and received the playoff’s top overall seed. Under NCAA rules, the top two seeds are allowed to host as long as they meet the minimum bid requirement - meaning that, as it turned out, JMU would have staged games at Bridgeforth Stadium without having to enhance its bid.

But the NCAA deadline to submit bids occurred during the regular season, and JMU - with two games left - did not know it would win out and earn a seed.

“We just wanted to do everything in our power to ensure that we played at home,†JMU vice president Charlie King said Thursday. “That was our strategy. If our crystal ball had been clear, if we had known we would have ended up with the No. 1 seed, we could have bid the minimum.â€

Madison bid $80,002.50 in the first round, $100,003.50 in the second and 120,001.50 in the third - and exceeded the guarantee for each game. The NCAA minimum bids were about $30,000 for the first round, and went up by $10,000 each round thereafter.

After sending off the check to the NCAA for the guarantee, a portion of the profits and a fee for hosting, JMU made $11,061.85 in the first round, $15,153.62 in the second and $21,768.27 in the third.

“When you’re bidding aggressively, you just hope you get out of there without losing your shirt,†Colonial Athletic Association commissioner Tom Yeager said recently.

In 2004, William & Mary turned a profit for three home playoff games by bidding only the minimum for each round. That worked out for the Tribe after it received one of the four seeds for the playoffs, meaning it would host regardless of its bid.

W&M made $52,782.05 over the three games, losing the third to JMU, which went on to win the national championship that year.

Would JMU consider bidding the minimum next season, putting itself at risk to play at a powerful regional opponent like Appalachian State or Youngstown State in the first round if it didn’t end up with a seed?

King said it was too soon to make that decision, but Bourne said he would “most definitely†continue to bid aggressively to assure the Dukes of home games.

During JMU’s recent run of football success, the bids came into play twice. In 2004, JMU was sent to unseeded Lehigh, where it won. In 2007, unseeded Appalachian State apparently out-bid Madison and hosted the team’s first-round meeting, which the Mountaineers won 28-27.

In 2006, Youngstown State was seeded fourth and bids never were a factor once the Dukes were determined to be the Penguins’ closest geographic opponent.

JMU averaged 14,194 fans per game over the three home contests.

I-AA Netted Profit
By Mike Barber, The Harrisonburg Daily News Press (VA)


For an average attendance of only 14K for three games, it's not a bad NET profit. (We still don't know what the payout from the SCG is.) And they get good press for participating in the playoffs, which leads to other tangible and intangible benefits.
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:retard: :lol:
Glad you posted this.
 
Mr. Tiger said:
We are getting nice returns. We are just not putting money into athletics at the rate that others do.


Look, the playoff debate is a good one because both sides make great points. I can understand wanting to go to the playoffs. That's my point of view, but I also can understand saying forget it because it is not profitable.
But I just don't believe profit is the reason we choose not to participate.
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This is not smack! But are you intimating that in light of going 0-19 in the Playoffs, the refusal of Coach Comegy to play PVAM this year (even though JSU has only a 10-game schedule), and the SWAC's inability to win any FCS out-of-conference games in 2008, that the SWAC's reluctance to participate in the Playoffs is because it feels it is not competitive?
 
MsippiRattler said:
This is not smack! But are you intimating that in light of going 0-19 in the Playoffs, the refusal of Coach Comegy to play PVAM this year (even though JSU has only a 10-game schedule), and the SWAC's inability to win any FCS out-of-conference games in 2008, that the SWAC's reluctance to participate in the Playoffs is because it feels it is not competitive?
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That is not it at all, those small facts in no way makes us think we can't compete. LOL. Southern has not lost a playoff game.
 
MsippiRattler said:
I don't understand this "losing money" talk for playoff teams. While it is true that the NCAA can get 75% of the NET gate, it is still a profit for the host school. From Championshipsubdivisionnew.com:

FCS Playoffs Netted Profit for JMU

HARRISONBURG - It’s not BCS money, but James Madison turned a small profit by hosting three rounds of the NCAA Division I-AA football playoffs this past season, according to the university.

Figured finalized last month show that JMU took in $37,301 on the three games, mostly in ticket sales, but incurred $22,462 in additional costs because of housing and meals for the athletes during the school’s Thanksgiving break.

That translated into a $14,839 profit.

JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne said the university benefited from the home playoff games, as much perhaps in exposure as from the modest profit.

“It absolutely was worth it,†Bourne said Thursday. “I think every one of the home games gives you a competitive advantage. It gives you a chance to show off your football program and what your facility is like. You had an ESPN game on your campus. It’s very difficult to put a dollar amount on that type of exposure.â€

For schools to host I-AA playoff games, the NCAA requires that they submit bids or guarantees of how much they will pay for each home date. The organization sets minimum bids that get higher for each round. To enhance their chances of securing home games, however, schools often bid more than twice the minimum, as JMU did last season to get contests at Bridgeforth Stadium against Wofford, Villanova and Montana.

The Dukes went 10-1 in the regular season and received the playoff’s top overall seed. Under NCAA rules, the top two seeds are allowed to host as long as they meet the minimum bid requirement - meaning that, as it turned out, JMU would have staged games at Bridgeforth Stadium without having to enhance its bid.

But the NCAA deadline to submit bids occurred during the regular season, and JMU - with two games left - did not know it would win out and earn a seed.

“We just wanted to do everything in our power to ensure that we played at home,†JMU vice president Charlie King said Thursday. “That was our strategy. If our crystal ball had been clear, if we had known we would have ended up with the No. 1 seed, we could have bid the minimum.â€

Madison bid $80,002.50 in the first round, $100,003.50 in the second and 120,001.50 in the third - and exceeded the guarantee for each game. The NCAA minimum bids were about $30,000 for the first round, and went up by $10,000 each round thereafter.

After sending off the check to the NCAA for the guarantee, a portion of the profits and a fee for hosting, JMU made $11,061.85 in the first round, $15,153.62 in the second and $21,768.27 in the third.

“When you’re bidding aggressively, you just hope you get out of there without losing your shirt,†Colonial Athletic Association commissioner Tom Yeager said recently.

In 2004, William & Mary turned a profit for three home playoff games by bidding only the minimum for each round. That worked out for the Tribe after it received one of the four seeds for the playoffs, meaning it would host regardless of its bid.

W&M made $52,782.05 over the three games, losing the third to JMU, which went on to win the national championship that year.

Would JMU consider bidding the minimum next season, putting itself at risk to play at a powerful regional opponent like Appalachian State or Youngstown State in the first round if it didn’t end up with a seed?

King said it was too soon to make that decision, but Bourne said he would “most definitely†continue to bid aggressively to assure the Dukes of home games.

During JMU’s recent run of football success, the bids came into play twice. In 2004, JMU was sent to unseeded Lehigh, where it won. In 2007, unseeded Appalachian State apparently out-bid Madison and hosted the team’s first-round meeting, which the Mountaineers won 28-27.

In 2006, Youngstown State was seeded fourth and bids never were a factor once the Dukes were determined to be the Penguins’ closest geographic opponent.

JMU averaged 14,194 fans per game over the three home contests.

I-AA Netted Profit
By Mike Barber, The Harrisonburg Daily News Press (VA)


For an average attendance of only 14K for three games, it's not a bad NET profit. (We still don't know what the payout from the SCG is.) And they get good press for participating in the playoffs, which leads to other tangible and intangible benefits.
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Man, I did not know that the NCAA was pimping playoff teams like that. If that is the case, I would take the Bayou Classic and SWAC Championship Game everytime. At least you are being featured on national tv and guaranteed a profitable return. We must be doing something right for ESPN to showcase black college football with the MEAC-SWAC Challenge. How many other FCS programs can say that they have a regional TV contract(CST), get regular season games showcased on a major network(ESPN U does not count), and also rank in the Top 10 in avg. attendance every year?

Southern's football program is very profitable, it is just the decisions on where that money goes that is the problem.
 
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To ensure that the Heritage Bowl or Black BCS Title Game is fully successful, the MEAC must be with us every step of the way. Maybe we can rotate the location of the games like the BCS does in FBS football. We already know the game has to be in a dome, and we all know why. How about:

Houston's Reliant Stadium, The Louisiana Superdome, Atlanta's Georgia Dome, and Jacksonville's Alltel Stadium.

The game can take place in the days between the last BCS bowl game and the BCS National Title Game.
 
number1 said:
To ensure that the Heritage Bowl or Black BCS Title Game is fully successful, the MEAC must be with us every step of the way. Maybe we can rotate the location of the games like the BCS does in FBS football. We already know the game has to be in a dome, and we all know why. How about:

Houston's Reliant Stadium, The Louisiana Superdome, Atlanta's Georgia Dome, and Jacksonville's Alltel Stadium.

The game can take place in the days between the last BCS bowl game and the BCS National Title Game.
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a) The Division I national title game is moving to a date just prior to the BCS "national title" game.

b) Black 'BCS' Title game? You guys are not BCS or FBS!

c) How can it be an HBCU title game if you do not include the non-Div I teams? Tuskegee has won HBCU "national titles" in recent years. Going to keep them out?

d) The MEAC is a playoff conference. Is the SWAC fine playing the #2 or #3 team from the MEAC? I guess it can be like a lower tier bowl game when one of the not so great FBS conference's champions plays the #5 or #6 team from one of the top conferences.
 
CAA Football, which captured its fourth National Championship in a decade last season, will feature the nation’s largest Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) television package in the upcoming 2009 season.

CAA Football Commissioner Tom Yeager announced a 23-game television schedule as part of the league’s Media Day Celebration, Wednesday at the ESPNZone in Baltimore, Md. The schedule is highlighted by a conference-only package of 19 games airing on the Comcast Sports Group family of networks.

“We are proud to again have the largest FCS television package in the country,” Yeager said. “Thanks to our partnerships with Comcast Sports Group, ESPN and a number of other carriers we are able to create a television package which showcases the best FCS conference in the country.”
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