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That's who tops my list. Rakim. Second would be either LL or KRS, then Kane, Guru, and Chuck D.

I forget about Guru:clap:. Him and Premier didn't do enough material. Gangstarr should have been the greatest group ever.:lecture:
 
If we are talking about the kind of rappers and groups you guys are referring to, we should add Outkast then. If not for Andre and Big Boy, the Southern rap game would still be trying to come up. Those guys changed the game for the South, but they arestill not Pac and Biggie.
 



I forget about Guru:clap:. Him and Premier didn't do enough material. Gangstarr should have been the greatest group ever.:lecture:

First album with Words I Manifest was tight. The second one, Step In The Arena, with Who's gonna take the weight...IMO... a classic and very underrated.

I need to go back and listen to some of G Raps stuff.
 
If we are talking about the kind of rappers and groups you guys are referring to, we should add Outkast then. If not for Andre and Big Boy, the Southern rap game would still be trying to come up. Those guys changed the game for the South, but they arestill not Pac and Biggie.

I totally agree. Those guys are the greatest duo of all time in my mind.
 
Biggie
Pac
Cool G Rap
Jay Z
Rakim
Nas
Scarface
Kane
KRS for lyrical content
Andre 3000 lyrically can't be touched in my opinion


Honerable Mention
Commom
Ice Cube before the (ye ye period)
Snoop Dog
TI
Too Short
Moss Def
Guru


Best Groups

Run DMC
Outcast
EPMD
 
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Biggie
Pac
Cool G Rap
Jay Z
Rakim
Nas
Scarface
Kane
KRS for lyrical content
Andre 3000 lyrically can't be touched in my opinion


Honerable Mention
Commom
Ice Cube before the (ye ye period)
Snoop Dog
TI
Too Short
Moss Def
Guru


Best Groups

Run DMC
Outcast
EPMD

Man, I thought you woulda added The Roots or Black Thought in there somewhere with the Groups/Honorable Mentioned.
 
Man, I thought you woulda added The Roots or Black Thought in there somewhere with the Groups/Honorable Mentioned.

The Roots are top 5 my bad..Man I love the roots.

I'm going to the corner for a time out...:shame::shame:
 
Man, I thought you woulda added The Roots or Black Thought in there somewhere with the Groups/Honorable Mentioned.

No Public Enemy? NWA?

Gangstarr? Tribe called Qwest?

Of course my personal favorites X-Clan and Wu Tang Clan.:D
 
No Public Enemy? NWA?

Gangstarr? Tribe called Qwest?

Of course my personal favorites X-Clan and Wu Tang Clan.:D

2Live Crew:clap:
Salt & Pepa
Nice and Smooth:smug:
Hammer:happydance:
Goodie Mob:smoke:
The Pharcyde:sick:
Digital Underground(Featuring Tupac Shakur):sick::sick:
Digible Planets
 
I saw the movie friday! I could tell why lil kim had issues with her role....she was straight up the side chick and desparate for Biggie's attention. They did well in having the music match the story.

I give it two thumbs up!
 
I saw the movie friday! I could tell why lil kim had issues with her role....she was straight up the side chick and desparate for Biggie's attention. They did well in having the music match the story.

I give it two thumbs up!

But that was true. Faith was the wifey, Charlie Baltimore was the mistress, and Kim was the Jumpoff
 
But that was true. Faith was the wifey, Charlie Baltimore was the mistress, and Kim was the Jumpoff

Damn. I forgot about Charli Baltimore. I thought Baltimore was the j.o. and Kim was the #2.

Like I said before, Kim still aint got no room to get mad. It is what it is. :lecture:
 
2Live Crew:clap:
Salt & Pepa
Nice and Smooth:smug:
Hammer:happydance:
Goodie Mob:smoke:
The Pharcyde:sick:
Digital Underground(Featuring Tupac Shakur):sick::sick:
Digible Planets

Damn, I keep forgetting about Goodie Mob and the Pharcyde. Good :smoke: music and "The Planteers"(Butterfly's mom and my moms were first cousins.)
 
But that was true. Faith was the wifey, Charlie Baltimore was the mistress, and Kim was the Jumpoff

Well in the movie it didnt look that way at the end....Lil Kim could have had some truth to what she was saying. No one knows the truth but them...so its not for me to try to speak on....
 



No Public Enemy? NWA?

Gangstarr? Tribe called Qwest?

Of course my personal favorites X-Clan and Wu Tang Clan.:D

Telling you mane...these youngsters don't know no better. That is why I gave up on this argument.

Dr. Dre said it best..."I started this gangsta shit, and this the Mutha Fuggun thanks I get"
 
Telling you mane...these youngsters don't know no better. That is why I gave up on this argument.

Dr. Dre said it best..."I started this gangsta shit, and this the Mutha Fuggun thanks I get"

But SoGgY, Dre wasnt crap. Even when he was with the World Class Wreckin Crew. He had Cube and Ren to write his raps. Just like Snoop did for "187".
 
But SoGgY, Dre wasnt crap. Even when he was with the World Class Wreckin Crew. He had Cube and Ren to write his raps. Just like Snoop did for "187".

I understand. I'm not saying he is on my top 5. He was not a rapper, but he was/is a helluva producer. I just saying that he was with a group (NWA) that took hip hop another level.
 
No Public Enemy? NWA?

Gangstarr? Tribe called Qwest?

Of course my personal favorites X-Clan and Wu Tang Clan.:D

Tribe is top 5
goodie mob is top 10. Ganstarr was really just Guru
NWA and PE are both top 10 in groups.

It depends on your region as to who you give top billing.

Wu tang is top 10.

I left out the Chef Raekwon,methond man, Gyza,ryza, ghostface killer.




There should be a list of top ten radio friendly rappers. Rapper we loved but are not lyrical. You know guys who have big sales and mass appeal but hey can they be top 10 of all times.

Nelly...never liked his music
Ludacris..sales a lot of records very lyrical yet comical and is his thuging beleivable.
50 cents
DMX
Trick Daddy
Fat Joe
Pig Pun
Mase
Heavy D
 
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My All-Timer's:

MC's:
1. Nas
2. Jay-Z
3. Biggie
4. Pac
5. Rakim

Groups:
1. Outkast
2. EPMD
3. UGK
4. Tribe
5. Ball & G
5. NWA
 
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