We all knew it was coming


bluedog

"Leader of Kings"
Even though a lot of fans from the other so-called supporters of HBCU conference will whine like a hog on the rack. There isn't anything they can do about it becasue it's unavoidable.

Only a complete fool would continue to chase after approval from a group that's raping you while you're doing it.

Commissioner guides big MEAC changes
From TV and shoe deals to possible expansion, Dennis Thomas always meets the challenges.
BY MARTY O'BRIEN
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February 12, 2006
VIRGINIA BEACH -- During his introduction in 2002 as Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference commissioner, Dennis Thomas wondered aloud, "What the heck have I gotten myself into?" He was only half-joking.

Thomas was ending a successful tenure as athletics director at Hampton University to lead a conference that was cash-strapped and in need of an image makeover. Four years later, many challenges remain.

MEAC basketball ranks near the bottom of Division I, its tournament overshadowed among regional historically black college fans by the Division II CIAA tournament. MEAC football remains popular among students and alumni, but the conference hasn't won a Division I-AA playoff game in six years.

None of the obstacles has slowed Thomas, who daily promotes the conference with the missionary zeal of a true believer. He views the MEAC as "11 tremendous institutions" carrying on the legacy of historically black colleges that "persevered when access to everything was denied."

His successes are undeniable. During the past three years, the conference has signed an 8-year footwear deal with Nike, a 5-year apparel deal with Russell Athletics and a 7-year television deal with ESPN that will generate hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The conference men's and women's basketball tournaments, set for March 7-11, begin a three-year run at the RBC Center in Raleigh, N.C., after seven years in Richmond. At least two, perhaps three, schools are expected to join the conference in the next two years, swelling membership to 14.

Last fall, the conference moved its headquarters from a cubbyhole in Greensboro, N.C. to 6,500 square feet in the posh, new Armada Hoffler Tower in Virginia Beach. From his office on the 11th floor, Thomas can see the oceanfront on a clear day.

He talked recently about the even brighter future he sees for the MEAC.

Q: One obvious sign of progress is that there is no lack of schools that want to join the MEAC. Savannah State and Winston-Salem State already have applied for admission, and North Carolina Central is expected to do so after a Division I exploratory year in 2006-07. What is the status of the applicants?
 

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I still think that we would have to get 2 more football playing schools for the NCAA to agree to let us have a Championship game and play in another post season game.
 
Some commisstioner are progressive and try to do things to take their conference forward. Other Commissioners just sit on their ass (Bowels) and dont do a damn thing while in office but oversee failure after failure. what do you guys think the SWAC could do to attract Comm Thomas.
 
Get Ready said:
Some commisstioner are progressive and try to do things to take their conference forward. Other Commissioners just sit on their ass (Bowels) and dont do a damn thing while in office but oversee failure after failure. what do you guys think the SWAC could do to attract Comm Thomas.


1) GR we all know the commish can't do any more then the COPS let him do

2) You do realize that he's planning to bring the meac to full circle by creating two divisions (i.e. swac) and forgoing the playoffs to play a national title game? (i.e. swac)
 
HORNETSWARM said:
You talked to Bama to get Spivery. :smh:

lol........that is the case and point..... :lol: :emlaugh: (but I digress)

Ben Jobe........send help :lol: :emlaugh:
 
still don't like it. Whe he came into office he was talking the same isht. Now it has basically come to fruition.
uhh, Commish Thomas, just a l'il touch up .......... :flamethro <img src="http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/armed/dead2.gif">

Question just out of curiousity: Has there been any noticable change/impact on the SWAC teams non-conf. scheduling strategy since y'all went full-bore for the SCG and put down the playoffs?
 
Fiyah said:
I still think that we would have to get 2 more football playing schools for the NCAA to agree to let us have a Championship game and play in another post season game.


I agree totally.
 

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Ralph,

We need a real leader in the office....actually we need ANY leader. the SWAC commissioner is so dumb, incompetent, and unforgivably ignorant its ridiculous. A child could do better than this guy.
 
^^^^

GR, Vowels is horrible but if we get rid of him, the Presidents are going to hire another horrible guy. That's the kind of person they want. This is quite ironic when just about 5 short years ago, we could not even get our Presidents to attend the SWAC meetings. Now, they want to run the SWAC.

My question is what behind the scenes talks are going on? I don't see the SWAC expanding becasue there are no teams to expand with. It would be great to get TNState but we would still need another team. So I am thinking that when the MEAC splits, the Heritage Bowl will return...meaning the SWAC will stay with the 9-game mandate and do away with the SWAC Championship game.
 
Tigerpride said:
^^^^

GR, Vowels is horrible but if we get rid of him, the Presidents are going to hire another horrible guy. That's the kind of person they want. This is quite ironic when just about 5 short years ago, we could not even get our Presidents to attend the SWAC meetings. Now, they want to run the SWAC.

My question is what behind the scenes talks are going on? I don't see the SWAC expanding becasue there are no teams to expand with. It would be great to get TNState but we would still need another team. So I am thinking that when the MEAC splits, the Heritage Bowl will return...meaning the SWAC will stay with the 9-game mandate and do away with the SWAC Championship game.

The SWAC Championship game will be history under this plan. The SWAC has no teams in its area even considering jumping to Division I-AA and there is no way Tennessee State would consider joining the SWAC. Even if the SWAC could talk Tuskegee into joining, then who would be the second team. The question is does the MEAC fans and alumni have the power to convince their school presidents not to make this move. We have seen evidence that the SWAC fans and alumni can't even get our presidents to get rid of the stupid 9-game mandate that most of us detest. But Hampton and South Carolina State have made it their goal to win in the playoffs and their fans aren't happy with this talk of the Heritage Bowl again.
 
Mr. Tiger said:
But Hampton and South Carolina State have made it their goal to win in the playoffs and their fans aren't happy with this talk of the Heritage Bowl again.

Trust me...Hampton fans could care less about football. Have you seen their stadium? Were you in Detroit?? They have a good infrastructure but it ain't becasue of their fans. It's because they have a President who values athletics.
 
The MEAC Commissioner came to the conference office from Hampton right?
The MEAC Commissioner made the comment that they are looking into a conference championship game right?
The MEAC Commissioner made the comment that they are looking renewing some semblence of a Heritage Bowl with the SWAC right?
 
Tigerpride said:
Trust me...Hampton fans could care less about football. Have you seen their stadium? Were you in Detroit?? They have a good infrastructure but it ain't becasue of their fans. It's because they have a President who values athletics.

I know their fan base can't begin to match that of JSU, Southern and Grambling but judging from the reaction of the fans that they do have they are not happy about the Heritage Bowl talk.

And judging from the MEACfans message board not many MEAC fans like the idea, so what I'm saying is that if the fans and alumni can galvanize and fight against the proposal it could make a difference, just like the fan boycott at Jackson State got the coach who shall remain nameless and his boss fired.

Will they fight against it? That remains to be seen. I am more concern about our own inability to convince our presidents to get rid of the 9-game mandate so that Jackson State and others will have more scheduling flexibility so that we can play more Division I-A schools in the future.

:topic: Question: If our presidents are so concerned about money that we create a championship and for the most part say no to the playoffs, then why the heck do we have a 9-game mandate that stops schools like Grambling, Jackson State and Southern from big pay days against Division I-A teams. If it's all about money, then make it all about money.
 
Mr. Tiger,

Question: If our presidents are so concerned about money that we create a championship and for the most part say no to the playoffs, then why the heck do we have a 9-game mandate that stops schools like Grambling, Jackson State and Southern from big pay days against Division I-A teams. If it's all about money, then make it all about money.

Ask your president that question. I am sure he will explain to you his vote on the 9-game mandate. I am sure he can also explain to you what his argument, for it or against it, was to the other SWAC presidents/chancellors.
 
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