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Congratulations to TSU . 1st Championship since 1999 & good luck in the playoffs( 1st since 2013) . Not to be negative, but 2727 fans showed up for this great moment for them. Has TSU brass & the OVC killed their fanbase?
Their scheduling did it. As you know, they use to frequently play top HBCU programs but got away from it.

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Congratulations to TSU . 1st Championship since 1999 & good luck in the playoffs( 1st since 2013) . Not to be negative, but 2727 fans showed up for this great moment for them. Has TSU brass & the OVC killed their fanbase?

One word: Yes

The fan base has shown that they don't care about the OVC but their brass is intent on running from their blackness
 
Or they just have interests outside of the swac championship or the celebration bowl like nearly every other FCS conference. The fact that folks love trying to paint that as a negative is just silly.
 
Folks forget that Eddie George nearly pulled a coup in the offseason when he was able to get the NDSU offensive coordinator to join his staff before the guy went elsewhere. Getting that group to the postseason should get some attention from recruits and assistant coaches looking for an opportunity to make an impact.
 
Or they just have interests outside of the swac championship or the celebration bowl like nearly every other FCS conference. The fact that folks love trying to paint that as a negative is just silly.

1 win Valley shouldn't be outdrawing a 9 win team yet we are here (it literally was the same thing last year)

You can try to play contrarian all you want but the TSU fans have shown for decades they have no interest in the OVC or the teams in it
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Or they just have interests outside of the swac championship or the celebration bowl like nearly every other FCS conference. The fact that folks love trying to paint that as a negative is just silly.

Whose interests? Fans & alumni have resoundingly shown that they are not interested in the struggling OVC & I'm sure they aren't demanding Ice Hockey. So whose interests are these & why are they so determined at ruining alumni & student engagement?
 
1 win Valley shouldn't be outdrawing a 9 win team yet we are here (it literally was the same thing last year)

You can try to play contrarian all you want but the TSU fans have shown for decades they have no interest in the OVC or the teams in it
TSU fan engagement would skyrocket with geographical rivalries like Bama State, A& M , FAMU ( meet up in Atlanta occasionally), J State & traditional rivals like Gram & SU when possible. Not only is TSU losing their alumni , but a potential new younger generation of fans. 2000 fans for a rare conference championship & alleged "coveted" playoff berth is not good.
 



Or they just have interests outside of the swac championship or the celebration bowl like nearly every other FCS conference. The fact that folks love trying to paint that as a negative is just silly.
When you are Broke and insist on playing the lottery, now that is SILLY! TNSU is chasing its tail...
 
I have a serious question:

Since we the know the situation that TSU is in financially, how would they be able to pay for the increase in travel in all sports if they move to SWAC or the MEAC. Ticket sells are variable revenue and one would think that you can't plan a conference move on variable income like that alone? Could the media deals that either of this conferences make up the difference, maybe.

As for the hockey team, I believe this was lead by the NHL team and the NHL wanting more black players in the league. By having a team at an HBCU, club to begin with, the thinking is that would draw more black people to hockey. To me it could go either way, as we have seen with baseball for example, that just having a sport at HBCU does not necessary mean black people will make up the majority of the team.
 
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Whose interests? Fans & alumni have resoundingly shown that they are not interested in the struggling OVC & I'm sure they aren't demanding Ice Hockey. So whose interests are these & why are they so determined at ruining alumni & student engagement?
I think part of the problem is TSU playing at the NFL stadium, as it seems like every time they play at Hale they have had better attendance even when playing PWIs (of course playing HBCUs bring more attendance).

As far as the hockey goes, it being sponsored by NHL and local NHL team. I highly doubt that TSU would be doing a hockey team if it was not for the NHL coming to them.
 
1 win Valley shouldn't be outdrawing a 9 win team yet we are here (it literally was the same thing last year)

You can try to play contrarian all you want but the TSU fans have shown for decades they have no interest in the OVC or the teams in it
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The only folks pressed about attendance in fcs are the HBCU's. The rest are more pressed about getting a ring.
 
I have a serious question:

Since we the know the situation that TSU is in financially, how would they be able to pay for the increase in travel in all sports if they move to SWAC or the MEAC. Ticket sells are variable revenue and one would think that you can't plan a conference move on variable income like that alone? Could the media deals that either of this conferences make up the difference, maybe.

As for the hockey team, I believe this was lead by the NHL team and the NHL wanting more black players in the league. By having a team at an HBCU, club to begin with, the thinking is that would draw more black people to hockey. To me it could go either way, as we have seen with baseball for example, that just having a sport at HBCU does not necessary mean black people will make up the majority of the team.
Folks aren't thinking logically.. it's basically just a "haha" because they opt not to be in an HBCU conference. Any objective other than just attendance bragging rights doesn't make sense to some folks. And no, neither conference pays out anywhere even close enough to make up the financial difference. The same folks were the ones booing from the sidelines when they even mentioned hockey.

You had people celebrating A&T losing solely because they went to the CAA, a conference with multiple teams in the playoffs... all while sticking their heads in the dirt over the 2 teams the SWAC took from the MEAC helping to destabilize the conference. But that was all good because they went to an HBCU conference. The logic on here is weird sometimes. I'd bet money FAMU would do the exact same thing if given the opportunity..especially considering they wanted to go to the Sunbelt or CUSA long before they ended up leaving the MEAC.

Did anyone see the quality of play in that Bayou Classic yesterday? 63K but the level of play was barely better than a good high school football game here in GA. Doesn't matter though because they got 63k.
 
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Folks aren't thinking logically.. it's basically just a "haha" because they opt not to be in an HBCU conference. Any objective other than just attendance bragging rights doesn't make sense to some folks. And no, neither conference pays out anywhere even close enough to make up the financial difference. The same folks were the ones booing from the sidelines when they even mentioned hockey.

You had people celebrating A&T losing solely because they went to the CAA, a conference with multiple teams in the playoffs... all while sticking their heads in the dirt over the 2 teams the SWAC took from the MEAC helping to destabilize the conference. But that was all good because they went to an HBCU conference. The logic on here is weird sometimes. I'd bet money FAMU would do the exact same thing if given the opportunity..especially considering they wanted to go to the Sunbelt or CUSA long before they ended up leaving the MEAC.
I remember a content creator was pushing for JSU to play NCCU as an out of conference game and someone brought it up to Coach Oliver during an interview. Coach Oliver response was that was not financially feasible. I think some people make suggestions and don't look at the financial costs of it and suggestion moves be made that some how the financial costs will get workout. Schools can't be making moves and decisions on hope, as at some point they will need to cover the cost.

St. Paul College brought back football knowing they did not have the money to support it (there was reason they shut the program down to begin with), but yet they brought it back because of fans, supports, and alumni asking for it. The expenses that they occurred with football help lead to massive debt the school ended up having. I will give credit to Paul Quinn President, he shut down football because it became a money pit and now the schools is on great financial footing. Given the financial trouble St. Aug is in, I hope they don't think about bringing back football once they get on better financial footing (as school enrollment did not go off a cliff, as some predicted, with the closer of the program).
 
The only folks pressed about attendance in fcs are the HBCU's. The rest are more pressed about getting a ring.
Or you can get a SWAC ring & extra home game payout & another in Atlanta . Chasing rings in the fcs playoff money pit against some FBS teams masquerading as FCS schools isn't as appealling than playing traditional rivals.


Fan & alumni engagement should count for something. I gave TSU the benefit of the doubt since espn says 1536 fans showed up (but TSU says 2727) for their conference championship & playoff berth . I'd like to know how general alumni donations are to the schools like JSU, FAMU, Bama State, SU. etc...are vs. TSU. That may also be another barometer.
 
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