So...how many kids would y'all have nowadays?


SleepyCrat said:
Kendrick, I'm not talking about the places with absolutely no access to any form of planned parenthood and poverty, and even without access to protection the choice of who you are creating children with is still a conscious choice. In this thread I think we're talking about places where people have access to everything and the knowledge of what they are doing and still do it.
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The link posted in the thread is about a woman living in town that has limited health care options.

That's what my comments are catered toward.
 



Kendrick said:
The link posted in the thread is about a woman living in town that has limited health care options.

That's what my comments are catered toward.
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The same thing goes for her Ken. I can see the first, even the second, but was the lack of resources at fault for child number 3? or 4? or 5?

If she has another child that she cannot reasonably afford to care for within the next three years(which is very likely). Is she(and the father) at fault or is the lack of resources to blame?

Where is her culpability in any of this?
 
I think every man that has had sex knows condoms break and if she got them muscles working in that puddin they slip off or have before. Lol The point I try to drive home is that using a condom is better than not using one when you're sleeping with multiple people. I don't see why folks get mad when you say this. It's like wearing a seat belt. No one put one on back in the 70's or 80's. I remember the days of driving and your gal was up under you while cruising down 285 rubbing all on that body. Now in 2017 you don't pull off without her being strapped in. Why can't we do the same for our spoons? Just saying.....
 
My wife is a provider in a Medicaid Clinic specifically designed for low income families. People will utilize any excuse or reason to show that they need help for their kids...
 
SleepyCrat said:
The same thing goes for her Ken. I can see the first, even the second, but was the lack of resources at fault for child number 3? or 4? or 5?

If she has another child that she cannot reasonably afford to care for within the next three years(which is very likely). Is she(and the father) at fault or is the lack of resources to blame?
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Resources should always be made available regardless if a woman has one or five kids.

And preaching about personal responsibility and accountability is the same trope used by politicians on the right to take away PP and cut funding which ultimately hurts and endangers a bunch of people.
 
Kendrick said:
Resources should always be made available regardless if a woman has one or five kids.

And preaching about personal responsibility and accountability is the same trope used by politicians on the right to take away PP and cut funding which ultimately hurts and endangers a bunch of people.
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Kendrick, members of Congress should not be blamed for Pookie and Laquishia or Billy Bob and Mary Sue laying up making babies they can't afford.

Simple solution....

Stop fucking.
 
Sounds like what y'all are describing is sex addiction. I guess like drug addiction, sex addiction could be rampant in certain communities...and/or if you can get it with ease...like celebrities. Of course the "sexual addict" label probably only gets applied to folks of a certain status. That's the excuse that one of Halle Berry's ex-husbands used.

BTW, I think that CL article did more to reinforce stereotypes than to show the root causes of poverty.
 
Dude you're full of excused. How is wanting black people to help curve the AIDS epidemic in our community got anything to with racist? As a black person do you really want to see our community get better or do you just want us to keep leading the number of AID cases a year?

Kendrick said:
Resources should always be made available regardless if a woman has one or five kids.

And preaching about personal responsibility and accountability is the same trope used by politicians on the right to take away PP and cut funding which ultimately hurts and endangers a bunch of people.
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CEE DOG said:
When I was younger and a woman told me she didn't like using condoms I got the hell headed. I know cats who all slept with the same girl and all three have kids by her. That's fuking ridiculous.
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DUDE...after my divorce, I dated this older dude...man, it was an act of Congress to get him to put that condom on....I quit dealing with him....I didn't like him enough to want whatever he might have...
 
I messed with a few sisters who actually got pissed at me for wanting to use condoms. That shit blows my mind looking back. Glad I came out baby free
 
oh, and if my wife hadn't been pressing, I prob would have waited until about 35-36 to have a kid lol
 



I got my tubes tied as soon as they would allow me to. Did you know that if you have only 1 kid, they wouldn't tie your tubes until after 35? I was stunned...they said I might want to change my mind....I did not. Wish I had it done in my 20s when no more kids was gonna happen in my mind...
 
This is a REAL case and situation that I observed just 7 days ago here in Alabama with a client in a Health and Counseling Clinic. The young lady from a local housing development has been struggling to raise a healthy male child who is now approximately 21/2 years old. She was so malnourished when she first came to the clinic with her first pregnancy that the providers there gave and started her on ensure. She had the premature child and couldn't make breast milk. She and her man that she has been trying to hold on to (she said she has papers and are legally married) do not have permanent housing or even an apartment at this time. Currently they are living in an extended stay high rise and struggle to make the weekly payments. He recent found a job at a local store. She cannot get a job that requires a background check because she still has this felony charge on her record that had something to do with an ID or check that she states was closed after past jail time and court proceeding, however, it is still on her record and she cannot afford to pay one of those billboard lawyers $750 to have that charge expunged. She is now pregnant again and when asked why she stopped going to the clinic to get her birth control shots, she stated her man wanted her to get pregnant because the child they have now needs someone to play with! ( Side note: he has several other young children in the city and also has one on the way in another part of town).
 
Mace said:
This is a REAL case and situation that I observed just 7 days ago here in Alabama with a client in a Health and Counseling Clinic. The young lady from a local housing development has been struggling to raise a healthy male child who is now approximately 21/2 years old. She was so malnourished when she first came to the clinic with her first pregnancy that the providers there gave and started her on ensure. She had the premature child and couldn't make breast milk. She and her man that she has been trying to hold on to (she said she has papers and are legally married) do not have permanent housing or even an apartment at this time. Currently they are living in an extended stay high rise and struggle to make the weekly payments. He recent found a job at a local store. She cannot get a job that requires a background check because she still has this felony charge on her record that had something to do with an ID or check that she states was closed after past jail time and court proceeding, however, it is still on her record and she cannot afford to pay one of those billboard lawyers $750 to have that charge expunged. She is now pregnant again and when asked why she stopped going to the clinic to get her birth control shots, she stated her man wanted her to get pregnant because the child they have now needs someone to play with! ( Side note: he has several other young children in the city and also has one on the way in another part of town).
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BOOM!

I BEEN told y'all...DUDES BE ASKING FOR THESE KIDS.....it ain't just athletes that do it...regular Joes. My boyfriend asked me when I was 18...we were about to go out on a date...we hadn't even made it to the end of our road and he asked me cause he said my daddy would let us get married....My heart seized up...I told him to turn around and take me home....Best decision I ever made.....
 
CEE DOG said:
Dude you're full of excused. How is wanting black people to help curve the AIDS epidemic in our community got anything to with racist? As a black person do you really want to see our community get better or do you just want us to keep leading the number of AID cases a year?
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First, you don't get AIDS from sex. You get AIDS from untreated HIV. And the spread of HIV/AIDS has more to do with lack of testing and treatment than sex.

Second, when those racists cut funding for Planned Parenthood or places that provide similar services (because they believe folks are being enabled and held unaccounted for having babies and/or abortions), which make it harder for folks to get tested and treated, it creates outbreaks of HIV/AIDS. Go look at what happened in towns in Indiana and Texas and other small towns where these resources have been removed. Increases in pregnancies and STDs, including HIV.
 
chocalate_topaz said:
BOOM!

I BEEN told y'all...DUDES BE ASKING FOR THESE KIDS.....it ain't just athletes that do it...regular Joes. My boyfriend asked me when I was 18...we were about to go out on a date...we hadn't even made it to the end of our road and he asked me cause he said my daddy would let us get married....My heart seized up...I told him to turn around and take me home....Best decision I ever made.....
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LOL
 
The Founder said:
Kendrick, members of Congress should not be blamed for Pookie and Laquishia or Billy Bob and Mary Sue laying up making babies they can't afford.

Simple solution....

Stop fucking.
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Again, it ain't simple.

Members of Congress are trying to cut sex ed programs. Members of the House are eliminating funding for birth control for teenagers and poor women.

They're making it harder for women to have healthy sexual practices.

The abstinence-only trope has proven to been ineffective.
 
Kendrick said:
Resources should always be made available regardless if a woman has one or five kids.

And preaching about personal responsibility and accountability is the same trope used by politicians on the right to take away PP and cut funding which ultimately hurts and endangers a bunch of people.
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I agree with you 100%. I believe that we as a society can and should provide means to help fund things like planned parenthood. But, even if they are available, what will make this lady and the fathers make better decisions?

You can't say it's the same trope because for politicians it is just a trope, for me, it's a genuine concern for my family and people in the communities that I live/lived in.

I agree wholeheartedly with the funding of PP, but I will venture to say that the lack of planned parenthood has nothing to do with her situation. If you had PP next door to her, would she or the guys around her make better decisions. We know the answer to that. I'm kin to people who could walk to PP and wouldn't make a better decision to save their life.

Congress making it harder to have access to PP has nothing to do with black people. They are trying to limit white people's access to these things, because they are the main group consuming the services of PP, especially abortions. They are trying to make it harder for whites to prevent pregnancy. They want white people to have more children. Planned parenthood has had the opposite effect for them by making it easier for white women to prevent pregnancy. That's why they are so against it.

If planned parenthood was a black only service they would have one on every corner.
 
Kendrick...at the end of the day...we are speaking of adults, the majority with no mental/physical issues who continue to make bad choices....and there is a lack of accountability and trying to institute ANY accountability for these grown ups making grown up decisions is met with derision, obstruction and disdain in may cases....BUT no input from the ones they need to support them is asked at the time they make their CHOICES....we keep going around and around...but until they get some tough talk or placed in a situation where they have to truly learn survival skills, this will continue...
 
SleepyCrat said:
I agree with you 100%. I believe that we as a society can and should provide means to help fund things like planned parenthood. But, even if they are available, what will make this lady and the fathers make better decisions?

You can't say it's the same trope because for politicians it is just a trope, for me, it's a genuine concern for my family and people in the communities that I live/lived in.

I agree wholeheartedly with the funding of PP, but I will venture to say that the lack of planned parenthood has nothing to do with her situation. If you had PP next door to her, would she or the guys around her make better decisions. We know the answer to that. I'm kin to people who could walk to PP and wouldn't make a better decision to save their life.

Congress making it harder to have access to PP has nothing to do with black people. They are trying to limit white people's access to these things, because they are the main group consuming the services of PP, especially abortions. They are trying to make it harder for whites to prevent pregnancy. They want white people to have more children. Planned parenthood has had the opposite effect for them by making it easier for white women to prevent pregnancy. That's why they are so against it.

If planned parenthood was a black only service they would have one on every corner.
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BOOM!!! There are slowest growing population numbers....
 
SleepyCrat said:
I agree with you 100%. I believe that we as a society can and should provide means to help fund things like planned parenthood. But, even if they are available, what will make this lady and the fathers make better decisions?

You can't say it's the same trope because for politicians it is just a trope, for me, it's a genuine concern for my family and people in the communities that I live/lived in.

I agree wholeheartedly with the funding of PP, but I will venture to say that the lack of planned parenthood has nothing to do with her situation. If you had PP next door to her, would she or the guys around her make better decisions. We know the answer to that. I'm kin to people who could walk to PP and wouldn't make a better decision to save their life.

Congress making it harder to have access to PP has nothing to do with black people. They are trying to limit white people's access to these things, because they are the main group consuming the services of PP, especially abortions. They are trying to make it harder for whites to prevent pregnancy. They want white people to have more children. Planned parenthood has had the opposite effect for them by making it easier for white women to prevent pregnancy. That's why they are so against it.

If planned parenthood was a black only service they would have one on every corner.
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But all of government's attempts to make it harder for folks to get access to such services will ultimately impact black people.
 
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