The turnaround: Odums at SU & why Stump didn't work out?





Odums is working because he has a product on the field...He is making ppl wanna come to the games...

The product on the field that he has brought in is a hidden gem.

Also I think Odums listens to the Nation, granted he may not say it out loud, but he hears the comments and the grumbling that we may at times say/do.

Stump heard the grumbling and comments made by the Nation, but he was (as mentioned) so stuck in/on his ways, and that could be, he hasn't had a fan base like SU.

Odums knows now how hard the fans will ride for SU, that's the key difference to me, along with making the game fun to watch. The kids out there are having fun and they want to play and compete, not saying those kids under Stump wasn't having fun, but it's showing under Odums tenure that the kids seem to enjoy going out there and representing SU.

I am not sure if Odums will/is doing this, but I would love to see the old past players come back and make/show some type of presence. Again, they may well be doing this.
 
From 2012 to 2015 (Worm's tenure pretty much)

Alcorn: Two SWAC championships; two division titles; two SCG appearances; one national title; 32 wins
Southern: One SWAC championship; two division titles; two SCG apperances; 28 wins
Alabama State: no championships; 28 games
Jackson State: no championships: two SCG appearances; two division titles; 23 wins
Prairie View: no championships; 22 wins
UAPB: One SWAC title; one division title; 18 wins
Grambling: One SCG appearance; one division title; 18 wins
Alabama A&M: no championships; 18 wins
Texas Southern: no championships; 12 wins
Mississippi Valley: no championships; 10 wins
 
Dude has pretty much owned the SWAC with the exception of Alcorn...

GSU just beat the dude last year...
 
So um, during Worm's tenure ... did Jackson State decline or improve?

Southern 2012: 4-7 (Stump fired after 2nd game; Worm coached team to 4-5 record)
Jackson State 2012: 7-5; East Co-champs; lost to Pine Bluff in SCG:

Southern 2013: (Worm's first season as head coach): 9-4; West champs; beat Jackson State in SCG or SWAC title
Jackson State 2013: 8-4; East champs; lost to Southern in SCG; fired Rick Comegy and hired OMJ

Southern 2014: 9-4; West champs; lost to Alcorn in SCG (Austin Howard started as true freshman QB)
Jackson State 2014: (OMJ first season): 5-7

Southern 2015: 6-5
Jackson State: 2015: 3-8; OMJ fired; Tony Hughes brought in

Southern 2016: 2-2; only losses to FBS teams
Jackson State: 2016: 1-3; losses to one FBS team (UNLV); annual ass-kickings at the hands Tennessee State and Grambling (last year from the boycott penalty)


So that mean's Worm is 30-20 to date (.600 winning percentage); two OUTRIGHT division titles; two SCG apperances and a conference championship since he took over...
Jackson State through three coaches to date is 24-27 (0.4705 winning percentage); one OUTRIGHT division title; one backdoor shared division title; and TWO SCG losses....in fact JSU has been a sub.-500 club since beating Pine Bluff in Sept. 2014.

We declined but what that got to do with Worm's decline?
 
We declined but what that got to do with Worm's decline?

In actuality, Southern is in much better shape now than it was late in Pete's time and during Stump. No decline. This isn't PlayStation, can't go 11-0 every season. Even Pete had 6-5/7-4 seasons. However, the team has been competitive in the Worm days.
 
difference with Pete when they were rolling was beating SU meant something for the soul, you felt the win and like the weight of the world was lifted as you shut them up

Beating Pete at the end you almost felt sorry for him and everyone saw SU was not the same with Stump..Hard to gauge the identity of SU with Odums as this is not the Pete Richardson era and fans are not as boastful like they were in the 90s and 2000s....
 
difference with Pete when they were rolling was beating SU meant something for the soul, you felt the win and like the weight of the world was lifted as you shut them up

Beating Pete at the end you almost felt sorry for him and everyone saw SU was not the same with Stump..Hard to gauge the identity of SU with Odums as this is not the Pete Richardson era and fans are not as boastful like they were in the 90s and 2000s....

Fans got spoiled during Pete. The downfall of Pete/Stump era was humbling.
 



Fans got spoiled during Pete. The downfall of Pete/Stump era was humbling.
LOL!! I loved that era. There will never be another Pete-like era. It's a darn shame yall su folks haven't rewarded such a great coach a statue.....WHILE HE'S ALIVE!!
He took su out of it's 32 year streak of not winning an outright SWAC title. That's 32 long whopping years.
 

That's the wrong Obsession. That's for men.

It's more like this.
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