CB Beats 16 G5's in attendance and 1 P5


bluedog said:
Celebration Bowl 35,528

New Mexico Bowl - 30,289 ( played in their home stadium )

Camellia bowl - 21,395

LAS VEGAS BOWL-42,213

CURE BOWL-18,536

ORLEANS BOWL-32,847
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THIS!!! We are part of an FCS conference we have had more attendance at our bowls games than smaller and mid-major FBS bowl games.
 



CEE DOG said:
Why do black folks keep saying it wasn't 35k at this game? Do black people not realize they used scanner to do the tickets which has software to count the tickets scanned? Sometimes I wonder if certain folks in our race are really stupid......
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Well some of the ticket scanners weren't on their A-Game. I had to stop long enough for this older ticket scanner Lady to scan my Wife's and my ticket. If anything, there may have been an undercount if they went by ticket scans.
 
westcoastaggie said:
Well some of the ticket scanners weren't on their A-Game. I had to stop long enough for this older ticket scanner Lady to scan my Wife's and my ticket. If anything, there may have been an undercount if they went by ticket scans.
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I see your point, but the reality is software controls America. The official number came from some sort of software that counted the tickets.
 
I am not shocked at all. I didn't see too many FBS bowl games beating the Celebration Bowl in attendance. I knew that the Las Vegas Bowl would beat the Celebration when I saw that they picked two rivals. Those other FCS-non New Years Year's Bowl Game makers better pray that a Southern vs FAMU, Jackson vs Hampton, Grambling vs SCSU or even Alcorn vs BCU game never happens because the numbers will be well over 45k.
 
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Have to point out the only reason why the Las Vegas Bowl was so well attended was because they lucked up and were able to match heated rivals, BYU and Utah against each other.
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If we can get a JSU vs BCU or a SU vs Famu, we will have 55,000 + !!!
 
CEE DOG said:
Why do black folks keep saying it wasn't 35k at this game? Do black people not realize they used scanner to do the tickets which has software to count the tickets scanned? Sometimes I wonder if certain folks in our race are really stupid......
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It wasn't just black folks. There were some on AGS who made the "it doesn't look like 35K people on TV" argument. I was there. And to me it "looked" like a 35K crowd.

The TV cameras weren't able to show this side of the crowd that often.

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I sat on the NCA&T side and the folks I talked to were excited about the game unlike these haters on these other boards. Looked like 35k to me also.

Kenn Rashad said:
It wasn't just black folks. There were some on AGS who made the "it doesn't look like 35K people on TV" argument. I was there. And to me it "looked" like a 35K crowd.

The TV cameras weren't able to show this side of the crowd that often.

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1. Calling the Celebration Bowl an HBCU national championship game

Now if you saw the broadcast, commercials or postgame banter, you saw this game being billed as an HBCU National Championship. Just because ESPN said it does not make it true. Remember, ESPN put this game together. It's their network. So of course to get as much buzz as possible, they'll call it a national championship game. The lines between journalism and product promotion were virtually non-existent.

It is not an HBCU national championship game for the simple reason that all HBCUs are not eligible to go. There are two other conferences made up mostly of HBCUs, the CIAA and the SIAC. Of course, those conferences participate in at the Division II level vs. the MEAC and SWAC's FCS level, but they are also HBCUs so you can't have a national championship game that every HBCU isn't eligible for. Even if you wanted to make it an FCS national championship game, you'd still be leaving out Tennessee State, which competes in the Ohio Valley Conference.

That's not to say A&T shouldn't be the HBCU champs. But what if Tennessee State gets into the playoffs and makes a run, or a team in Division II makes a run at a national title? How could you claim they weren't HBCU champs based on a bowl game they can't qualify for?



Here we go again with this ridiculous idea of having division level II involved in everything that's hbcu. As if they really can compete week in and week out with division I schools.

Nevermind that the two conferences don't have the same standard to qualify for entrance in to their schools. Or that their standards for staying eligible by the ncaa is different.

Let's just pretend we're at home with an Xbox 3 plugged in to our 60" HD Samsung and make it up as we go.

Oh and there's this one other little pesky problem. It's forbidden by the ncaa to have any championship games or playoffs between division 1 and division II level conferences.

You would think that a blog that professes to be an information for sports would know these things. Or maybe they are just trying to drive up hits by posting a topic that they know gullible fans with no basic knowledge of the ncaa rules would eat up.


2. Noon start time

The Celebration Bowl was broadcast live on ABC, which is huge for any FCS teams, let alone HBCUs. It also kicked off the bowl season, which was pretty cool. But a 2 P.M. start would have given the crowd a little more time to fill in compared to the noon kickoff. Especially with a sizeable chunk of people traveling in from out of town who likely hung out overnight in Atlanta.


This is the big times. Black folk bitched and moan for years complaining that they deserve coverage like the bigger school because of their historical contributions to the sports.

There's only one job hbcu fans have and that is to show up at the games. Others have been doing it for years and doing it in numbers.

Do our job as fans and stop expecting to be spoon fed. They're the ones paying the bill.

Again another little problem with this suggestion. It would collide head on with other bigger bowl games and the NFL this time of the year.

Again something you would think a blog dedicated to sports would know.


3. No halftime broadcast

Look, no one understands the importance of the on-the-field product at HBCUs better than us. But for the casual fan, band performances are a big part of the appeal of black college football. ABC/ESPN has to accommodate the sponsors, but the fans on TV want to see the bands.


ESPN has never showed halftime of any college football game. So why do you expect them to treat us any differently?

Again stop asking to be spoon fed. This is the big times.
 



bluedog said:
1. Calling the Celebration Bowl an HBCU national championship game

Now if you saw the broadcast, commercials or postgame banter, you saw this game being billed as an HBCU National Championship. Just because ESPN said it does not make it true. Remember, ESPN put this game together. It's their network. So of course to get as much buzz as possible, they'll call it a national championship game. The lines between journalism and product promotion were virtually non-existent.

It is not an HBCU national championship game for the simple reason that all HBCUs are not eligible to go. There are two other conferences made up mostly of HBCUs, the CIAA and the SIAC. Of course, those conferences participate in at the Division II level vs. the MEAC and SWAC's FCS level, but they are also HBCUs so you can't have a national championship game that every HBCU isn't eligible for. Even if you wanted to make it an FCS national championship game, you'd still be leaving out Tennessee State, which competes in the Ohio Valley Conference.

That's not to say A&T shouldn't be the HBCU champs. But what if Tennessee State gets into the playoffs and makes a run, or a team in Division II makes a run at a national title? How could you claim they weren't HBCU champs based on a bowl game they can't qualify for?



Here we go again with this ridiculous idea of having division level II involved in everything that's hbcu. As if they really can compete week in and week out with division I schools.

Nevermind that the two conferences don't have the same standard to qualify for entrance in to their schools. Or that their standards for staying eligible by the ncaa is different.

Let's just pretend we're at home with an Xbox 3 plugged in to our 60" HD Samsung and make it up as we go.

Oh and there's this one other little pesky problem. It's forbidden by the ncaa to have any championship games or playoffs between division 1 and division II level conferences.

You would think that a blog that professes to be an information for sports would know these things. Or maybe they are just trying to drive up hits by posting a topic that they know gullible fans with no basic knowledge of the ncaa rules would eat up.


2. Noon start time

The Celebration Bowl was broadcast live on ABC, which is huge for any FCS teams, let alone HBCUs. It also kicked off the bowl season, which was pretty cool. But a 2 P.M. start would have given the crowd a little more time to fill in compared to the noon kickoff. Especially with a sizeable chunk of people traveling in from out of town who likely hung out overnight in Atlanta.


This is the big times. Black folk bitched and moan for years complaining that they deserve coverage like the bigger school because of their historical contributions to the sports.

There's only one job hbcu fans have and that is to show up at the games. Others have been doing it for years and doing it in numbers.

Do our job as fans and stop expecting to be spoon fed. They're the ones paying the bill.

Again another little problem with this suggestion. It would collide head on with other bigger bowl games and the NFL this time of the year.

Again something you would think a blog dedicated to sports would know.


3. No halftime broadcast

Look, no one understands the importance of the on-the-field product at HBCUs better than us. But for the casual fan, band performances are a big part of the appeal of black college football. ABC/ESPN has to accommodate the sponsors, but the fans on TV want to see the bands.


ESPN has never showed halftime of any college football game. So why do you expect them to treat us any differently?

Again stop asking to be spoon fed. This is the big times.
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If CIAA or SIAC teams really feel they want to be called HBCU National Champions ... then move up to Division I.
 
bluedog said:
My new motto "Get your weight up"
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It's like the lottery: Can't win if you don't play. However, don't the D2 teams looooove them some playoffs? They shouldn't be concerned about bowl games on national television and getting that national exposure and playing for "mythical" championships.

All I know Tarik Cohen played his way onto some NFL teams' draft boards with one more season to go. Gatewood from Alcorn got a national showcase.

I mean, look at the D2 champions. Hold up, who knows who won D2 this year?
 
Journalist said:
It's like the lottery: Can't win if you don't play. However, don't the D2 teams looooove them some playoffs? They shouldn't be concerned about bowl games on national television and getting that national exposure and playing for "mythical" championships.

All I know Tarik Cohen played his way onto some NFL teams' draft boards with one more season to go. Gatewood from Alcorn got a national showcase.

I mean, look at the D2 champions. Hold up, who knows who won D2 this year?
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I was having that same conversation with some folks from Fort Valley State. He claim to love their playoff system so much but every chance he got he had his nose in our bowl game business.


How I see it they are looking for the benefits without having to put in the work. Some people would call that welfare
 
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SIAC schools like Albany State and Fort Valley State need to stay where they are in division two. They can forget about moving up for the foreseeable (as in years) future. I do not say that to be mean as someone who has two generations of family members from (ASU) and three from the other (FVSU). It is best that they stay where they are. I feel the same way about Tuskegee.

Here is some information on the Georgia Dome.

www.gadome.com/about/Default.aspx

https://seatgeek.com/venues/georgia-dome/seating-chart/

www.collegegridirons.com/sunbelt/GeorgiaDome.htm
 
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