Why USC and Not A Black College, Dr. Dre?


chocalate_topaz said:
and many continue to stay behind because the art of connecting the dots to see the larger picture eludes them...:tup:
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It's also called getting a better return on your investment.

I give a HBCU a million to build new dorms-every CENT better go to build that dorm and not in the pockets of whoever and you go the cheapest route to build it.

Also why would one invest in the the black community? You are not getting a return in your investment. We have folks trying to invest in the black community and are getting tired of fighting losing battles.

Sooner or later you get tired of the bs and move on. Folks want returns on their investment.

How many folks have USC produced that are working in Hollywierd versus HBCUS? Plenty of HBCU dropouts but few grads.
 
When It Comes to HBCU Philanthropy, We Cannot Reap Where We Have Not Sown

Written by HBCU Digest, Posted in Editorial, Finance

Dr. Alderman Faison headshotI must say from the outset that I maintain a profound and genuine respect for the visionary leadership of Dr. Walter Kimbrough, president of Dillard University, as one of the nation’s leading and preeminent voices in the persistent plight of Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Indeed, as a younger member of the “hip-hop generation” who also heeded the call to serve the HBCU community as an executive administrator, I was actually in part personally inspired by Dr. Kimbrough’s leadership having known him personally as a student during my matriculation as an undergraduate at Albany State University where he served as a vice president a decade ago.

However, after reading Dr. Kimbrough’s May 22, 2013 Los Angeles Times article titled, “Why USC and not a black college, Dr. Dre?” concerning his angst and disappointment regarding hip-hop super producer Dr. Dre’s recent $35 million dollar gift to the University of Southern California, I pensively ruminated whether Dr. Kimbrough or other HBCU leaders were sincerely ready to hear and fully appreciate the rather inconvenient truth that belies the unfortunate answer to his retort with respect to HBCUs often not being the beneficiaries of multi-million dollar gifts.

Unfortunately, as a higher education advancement/development professional and state legislative liaison/lobbyist for a state sponsored HBCU, it sadly is of little surprise nor is it much of a perplexing reality that these kinds of gifts and investments continuously escape the needful grips of a great majority of our institutions. To put it bluntly, and at the risk of taking too much of a literary liberty with a sacred Biblical principle, “Dr. Kimbrough, HBCUs cannot reap where HBCUs have not sown.”

An increasingly volatile economic and political climate has created a formidable and frightening reality for the future of state and federal funding of higher education (especially at HBCUs). Now more than ever, HBCU leaders must be bold and audacious in making their institution’s philanthropic function as the institution’s highest budgetary priority.

As an HBCU advancement executive, it’s often unsettlingly ironic to me that a great majority of our institutions often cite their lack of financial resources as the primary impediment towards reaching the desired level of institutional and programmatic success. And yet, when glancing across the HBCU landscape to examine the advancement/development units whose primary function it is to seek, solicit, cultivate and secure resources for our institutions, in many cases we find that these units are often the LEAST professionally staffed, LEAST resourced, and LEAST developed comparative to other institutional units. And yet they are looked upon to be the deliverers for our institution’s GREATEST need!

How can HBCUs justifiably expect multi-million dollar beneficence, when many of our institutions financially invest only a fraction of what is necessary and needed in the way of sufficient advancement/development staffing, fundraising expertise and training, and professional fundraising development?

Earlier this past spring during a session for HBCU fundraising professionals at the regional meeting of CASE (Council on the Advancement and Support of Education) in Atlanta, Ga., an informal survey taken amongst the HBCU representatives revealed that a number of institutions were currently operating with advancement/development units that were severely understaffed and under resourced. Some institutions were operating with scarcely a total of 2-3 dedicated fundraisers. Show me an institution of higher education (whether HBCU, MSI or PWI) that routinely closes multi-million dollar gifts and I’ll show you an institution whose leadership has made its advancement/development function THE priority through an intentional investment of institutional dollars representative of such a commitment.

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Part of the issue is that a lot of our schools overall have not done a good job attracting high dollars from donors. Unfortunately, we are no longer in a society where Black folks will give to Black schools simply because they are Black. It has already been pointed out that our own alumni are lax with giving, so money from outsiders definitely is not a given.

What I think has been lost in this debate is that the money Dre and Iovine are giving is for a specific program and purpose. Let's be real here for a second. How many of our schools would put politics aside and allow Dre and Iovine to create a new program AND put their names on it? On the flipside of that, would we really expect them to put a program of this nature at a school that probably doesn't even have a radio station or any entertainment-related majors already in place?

When you combine this economy with the state of some institutions (both HBCUs and PWIs), signing a check to a school without a specific purpose is very rare these days. People want a return on their investment on every level. If Joe Blow the alum wants to be sure that his $100 check actually goes to the scholarship fund, then someone will millions to give is bound that want that to go towards some specific purpose. I respect Dr. Kimbrough, but someone like Dre is not going to write a $35M check or even a $35 check to any school (PWi or HBCU) without a specific purpose and some checks and balances. As someone else pointed out earlier, my alma mater lost out on some money years ago simply because Bill Cosby wanted to check the books.

As far as attracting money is concerned, I know some schools are at least reaching out for grants and other donations. The only way that will continue to happen is if we emphasize our strengths and work on our weaknesses. We also need better public relations. Our schools shouldn't only make the news when we are in danger of losing accreditation or when someone is caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
 
Dr. Dre pools $70 mil donation for USC

This goes to show how big of a piece of garbage we are as black poeple and why we are on the bottom of the social totem pole. As much damage as Dr Dre has done to the black community, you would think he would have some conscience to give money back to HIS community to maybe offset some of his destruction.

70 mil for USC doesnt even register USC. Its like putting $2 worth of gas in a Hummer.
I keep telling yall we need to stick together and help each other out.
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Even if he breaks the money up and gave it to 10 black schools, 7 million bucks means the world to HBCUs

(one of you moderators spell donation correctly for me in the title)
 
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We welcome your input in this discussion. We wish you were around when we first brought it up.
 
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Oh good lawd................we done had this discussion on small talk and my answer is the same. :lmao:

No wonder black people cant get anywhere. Anytime someone steps outside of the black community, A BLACK COMMUNITY THAT WANTED DRE AND THE REST OF THE GANGSTA RAPPERS DEAD, BROKE, OR IN JAIL, they get labeled.

That is that mans money.
He don't owe nobody no explaination on what he do with his money. :smh:
 
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jstate83 said:
Oh good lawd................we done had this discussion on small talk and my answer is the same. :lmao:

No wonder black people cant get anywhere. Anytime someone steps outside of the black community, A BLACK COMMUNITY THAT WANTED DRE AND THE REST OF THE GANGSTA RAPPERS DEAD, BROKE, OR IN JAIL, they get labeled.

That is that mans money.
He don't owe nobody no explaination on what he do with his money. :smh:
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Get Ready said:
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Hey man................Just telling the truth. :lol:

Those same black leaders and HBCU's that didn't want anything to do with rappers like DRE, now all of a sudden think he should be begging them to let him give up his money to them. Crushing his cds with steamrollers, protesting him, calling him evberything except a BLACK MAN. Ask NELLY if he will ever set foot on another HBCU campus after what SPELLMAN did to him when he went there for a bone marrow drive for his sister.

Nelly has not looked in another HBCU direction since. :lol:
 
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i knew i read into this some where.
i guess that's why this is the Sports Board.
 
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jstate83 said:
Hey man................Just telling the truth. :lol:

Those same black leaders and HBCU's that didn't want anything to do with rappers like DRE, now all of a sudden think he should be begging them to let him give up his money to them. Crushing his cds with steamrollers, protesting him, calling him evberything except a BLACK MAN. Ask NELLY if he will ever set foot on another HBCU campus after what SPELLMAN did to him when he went there for a bone marrow drive for his sister.

Nelly has not looked in another HBCU direction since. :lol:
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Nelly should have been run off campus for what he did. But one thing is for sure, when he ran that credit card down that girls ass, that was the end of his career and he changed the fate of booty music videos. I guess somebody has to be sacrificed. Black folks need to continously get angry about the mess Hollywood throws at us. We should get as angry about Love and Hip Hop.

The point is, most races help THEIR people out. Black people dont.

Im not questioning his RIGHT at all. He has the RIGHT to give his money to the Klan since his music has done more to hurt blacks that they ever have. The point is he should have some allegiance to his race and want to help some of the people who made him rich. That money wont help USC at all, but it would make a huge difference to his people
 
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Oops...I see where the money went now
Way to go Dre
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Get Ready said:
Nelly should have been run off campus for what he did. But one thing is for sure, when he ran that credit card down that girls ass, that was the end of his career and he changed the fate of booty music videos. I guess somebody has to be sacrificed. Black folks need to continously get angry about the mess Hollywood throws at us. We should get as angry about Love and Hip Hop.

The point is, most races help THEIR people out. Black people dont.

Im not questioning his RIGHT at all. He has the RIGHT to give his money to the Klan since his music has done more to hurt blacks that they ever have. The point is he should have some allegiance to his race and want to help some of the people who made him rich. That money wont help USC at all, but it would make a huge difference to his people
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How many HBCUs invited Death Row to their campus???
 



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I don't know if this was brought up in the other thread, but does Dre even know anything about HBCUs. As a matter of fact, how many of our alums come from Compton, South Central, Inglewood, or Long Beach vs. USC or UCLA alums coming from the same area? You all see what I'm driving at?
 
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GR, that credit card scene was the greatest moment in music video history. It made BET uncut a legend.
 
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BulldogM.Ed.23 said:
I don't know if this was brought up in the other thread, but does Dre even know anything about HBCUs. As a matter of fact, how many of our alums come from Compton, South Central, Inglewood, or Long Beach vs. USC or UCLA alums coming from the same area? You all see what I'm driving at?
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jsupop33 said:
GR, that credit card scene was the greatest moment in music video history. It made BET uncut a legend.
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Yes it did :lol:

Tip Drill
P Poppin
What That Thang Smell Like

Greatest Uncut videos ever :lol:
 
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I agree with you 135% on this issue but one thing we need to realize is these guys (dre and the like) are operating under the free market model. Capitalism at its finest. It is up to US to be able to differentiate between theater and reality. These young guys are capitalist i.e. Jordan. it is all about the benjamins.

While I agree he should show some allegiance to the Black community we have to allow them to make their money. A lot of the cries you hear from Black folk is because white folk say it is bad. We have to take control of our families and tell OUR children (while they are under our roof) what they can and cannot listen to. My children did not listen to hip hop in my house. My son does not wear sagging pants and he just turned 27. I did not allow my children to watch the Simpsons while growing up. Yeah they whined and moaned about their friends watching it but that did not move me. We, as parents, have to set the standards while they are young.

Do I think Dre' should have given the money to HBCU's? Yes I do. But evidently he does not share my sense of community. On the other hand, we cannot dog these fellows out and then expect them to give us their money. These guys are business men just like Budweiser, Miller, Jack Daniels, etc etc etc. There are many things sold legally in this country that are detrimental to many people including tobacco. They have a product that they are exploiting.

Our job is to teach our children the difference between show business and real life. Stop allowing our children to make theater their reality.


Get Ready said:
Nelly should have been run off campus for what he did. But one thing is for sure, when he ran that credit card down that girls ass, that was the end of his career and he changed the fate of booty music videos. I guess somebody has to be sacrificed. Black folks need to continously get angry about the mess Hollywood throws at us. We should get as angry about Love and Hip Hop.

The point is, most races help THEIR people out. Black people dont.

Im not questioning his RIGHT at all. He has the RIGHT to give his money to the Klan since his music has done more to hurt blacks that they ever have. The point is he should have some allegiance to his race and want to help some of the people who made him rich. That money wont help USC at all, but it would make a huge difference to his people
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Free country and that's why some people want to remain anonymous when they give money. You will always have people that agree and disagree. Me personally I don't agree with it. But I really do think that Blacks in Cali can't relate to HBCU's. It's just like some blacks in Little Rock (being 38 minutes away from Pine Bluff )can't relate to UAPB because they never experienced UAPB culture and HBCU's . So I can imagine that blacks in Cali with no HBCU's I know they can't comprehend the HBCU experience.
 
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pbla said:
Free country. I don't agree with it. But I really do think that Blacks in Cali can't relate to HBCU's. It's just like some blacks in Little Rock (being 38 minutes away from Pine Bluff )can't relate to UAPB because they never experienced UAPB culture and HBCU's . So I can imagine that blacks in Cali with no HBCU's I know they can't comprehend the HBCU experience.
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Black folks from Cali are just "different" .... even the thugs sound like suburban white boys.
 
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The responses on this board are a microcosm of the Black community. We have NO allegiance to black people and we have NO black community. We control nothing and we have no control of anything. Our problem is, WE DONT THINK BLACK. We dont think about how we can help our brothers and helping our community.

Dre didnt have to give the money to HBCUs, but why does it not enter his mind that black people might need this money more than rich white people do. This money means NOTHING to USC.

Jews give money to Jews
Cubans give money to Cubans
Catholics give money to Catholics
Chinese give money to the Chinese
and on and on
Blacks give money to Whites. Thats just the way it is. Thats how we have been trained. We do nothing to help each other out
 
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You can just look at our conference and see that we are a piece of garbage ass race. We dont have to pick on Dr Dre, he aint the only piece of garbage. Look at just a few decisions the SWAC office has made in the past few months. Who has a baseball trny in Ft Worth TX? Why? How does that remotely make sense? Who gets the money for that trny being waaaaaay out there. Certainly none of our schools. Why not have the FN trny in BR where people in a 4 state area can drive down and turn around and come home if they want to?

Why rent Relliant for the SCG? Why not reward ASU with the SCG (for a few years anyway) and use their stadium? Who gives a damn if it aint a dome? Those thoughts never cross our mind because thats how we are wired. Why not use BBVA if its just has to be in Houston? Not big enough? Good!! Let it be sold out. Let TxSU make that money. Nope...cant do that. We gotta let the owner of Reliant (USC) make that money.
 
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