All female Jury for Zimmerman trail


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There are black folk on Twitter arguing over whether or not Trayon Martin's shoes are rel Jordans or not?
 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2348155/George-Zimmerman-trial-Legal-teams-George-Zimmerman-trial-battle-dozens-previous-non-emergency-calls-police-used-evidence.html

Warning Trayvon's body is shown.

ANd I'm starting to think GZ got into a fight elsewhere and got those wound. If Trayvon had no marks of a fight on him and GZ couldn't do all that quick enough before folks came out. What did he do before all this started?
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thank you and why tf he followed Trayvon but not others he called police on including 2 20+ men who he said was suspicious BUT CALLED FROM INSIDE THE DAMN HOUSE
 



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Jag-BR said:
thank you and why tf he followed Trayvon but not others he called police on including 2 20+ men who he said was suspicious BUT CALLED FROM INSIDE THE DAMN HOUSE
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To add more fuel to this fire-the guy who was robbing the houses was already arrested and in jail about a week before this incident And supposedly GZ knew it..
 
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So the big thing yesterday was testimony provided by the Prosecution's first witness, a neighbor that originally stated she heard a scuffle out back, but didn't see anyone b/c it was dark...but saw two bodies and arms flailing around (swinging). Yesterday on the stand she added that she heard commotion coming from the "left to the right" outside the back of her house.

The defense kept questioning her over that...essentially pointing out that she added stuff on the witness stand. The panel of folks on HLN discussed it, 4 out of the 6 said she impeached herself.

Let me go see what they are saying on the internet today.
 
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southsuburbs said:
So the big thing yesterday was testimony provided by the Prosecution's first witness, a neighbor that originally stated she heard a scuffle out back, but didn't see anyone b/c it was dark...but saw two bodies and arms flailing around (swinging). Yesterday on the stand she added that she heard commotion coming from the "left to the right" outside the back of her house.

The defense kept questioning her over that...essentially pointing out that she added stuff on the witness stand. The panel of folks on HLN discussed it, 4 out of the 6 said she impeached herself.

Let me go see what they are saying on the internet today.
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Any updates????
 
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One of the male alternate jurors was dismissed for reasons unrelated to the case...

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/26/zimmerman-alternate-juror-dismissed?hpt=hln10_1

A male alternate juror was dismissed Wednesday morning from the George Zimmerman trial for reasons unrelated to the case. This leaves three people in the alternate jury pool, two women and one other man. There are six main jurors hearing the case, all women.

. Here's what we know about Juror B72:

He is white.
He has been a resident of Seminole County for nine years.
He is originally from Chicago.
He is not married and has no children.
He was a teacher and is now a maintenance technician for a private school.
He is a competitive arm wrestler
 
Sorry...but y'all gotta read bottom to top, I'm not flipping them around. lol

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/0...elp-george-zimmerman--trial-day-3-prosecutors

Prosecutors questioning another neighbor...

9:27 a.m. ET: Surdyka said Zimmerman got up after the teenager and started to walk towards her townhome.

9:25 a.m. ET: "I heard like from my window a pop, pop, pop." said Surdyka. "You know I don't know what a gun really sounds like."

9:24 a.m. ET: Surdyka said the last yelp she heard was made by the "boy" in her opinion.

9:22 a.m. ET: "I could see two people one the ground. One on top of each other." said Surdyka.

9:19 a.m. ET: Surdyka said shut off the lights in her townhome so she could see into the courtyard better.

9:16 a.m. ET: "All I could really hear. You know I guess I expected to open the window and like hear a conversation going on. But it really wasn't like someone out there just talking. When I opened the window a very aggressive voice. Someone sounded very angry, very aggigitated, and that kind of struck me. I don't know why I didn't hear the words," said Surdyka.

9:14 a.m. ET: After hearing voices, Surdyka opened a window and could see into the courtyard.

9:13 a.m. ET: Surdyka said she got up to close the window of her townhome, because it was raining on Feburary 26, 2012. Shortly after closing the window, she heard a loud "dominant" voice.

9:10 a.m. ET: Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda has called Jane Surdyka to the stand. She was living in the Zimmerman's neighborhood, Resort at Twin Lakes, at the time of the shooting.

9:05 a.m. ET: Nelson has ruled that the five calls Zimmerman made reporting other suspicious people in his neighborhood will be admissible. :clap: :clap: An alternate juror has been dismissed for reasons unrelated to the trial.

Defense questioning same neighbor (Jane Surdyka)

10:30 a.m. ET: Surdyka said before had not heard Zimmerman's or Martin's voices before the night of the shooting. She also said she still hasn't heard either of their voices to this day.

10:27 a.m. ET: West asked Surdyka if it is possible for a 17-teen-year-old to have a deep voice.

Surdyka said she guessed it was possible.

10:24 a.m. ET: Surdyka said heard two voices that night one dominate and another one that sounded higher pitch boy.

"It sounded more like a boy to me," said Surdyka.

10:21 a.m. ET: "That's what I saw, and that's the only thing I can tell you is what I saw and hearing the shouts, and he was face down," said Surdyka.


10:08 a.m. ET: West is trying to pick apart Surdyka's account of the night of the shooting, making multiple references to how dark it was that night, and how hard it was to see due to the rain
 
One thing that was pointed out on HLNTV yesterday that I was not aware of...

According to Zimmerman's video-taped interview with the police (in the beginning)...he showed them where he and Trayvon were standing when they were fighting.

He stated Trayvon sucker-punched him and he fell down, them Trayvon jumped on top of him and started hitting him.

The issue...according the HLNTV...the location he pointed out as to where he fell and Trayvon jumped on top of him is 30 feet from where Trayvon's body was found. The question HLNTV was discussing was did Zimmerman lie about the punch/fight? How did Trayvon's body get 30 feet from where Zimmerman said he was jumped and, essentially shot Trayvon? especially if there was no blood anywhere on the ground...did the rain wash it away?
 
Next witness called:

10:58 a.m. ET: Prosecutors has called their next witness, Jeannee Mamalo.

11:01 a.m. ET: Mamalo was living in Zimmerman's neighborhood at the time of the shooting.

11:02 a.m. ET: Mamalo was in her living room with her family at the time of shooting. The back of her house faces the courtyard, the location of the shooting.

11:15 a.m. ET: Mamalo said she saw movement with men's hands, and the person on top was bigger than the person on the bottom.

11:05 a.m. ET: Mamalo said she heard a noise that sound like someone calling for help. When she looked out the sliding door a second time she saw two people on the ground.

11:15 a.m. ET: Mamalo said she saw movement with men's hands, and the person on top was bigger than the person on the bottom.

11:19 a.m. ET: The paramedic asked Mamalo's husband for a plastic bag to help stop the bleeding.

11:30 a.m. ET: Mamalo said she could not tell where the "help" sound she heard came from, but it was closer than the initial howling sound she heard.

11:33 a.m. ET: O'Mara asked if her Mamalo's statement she gave police that night is more accurate than her testimony today. Mamalo said she did not understand the question.

11:37 a.m. ET: Mamalo is reviewing her statement she gave to the police the night of the shooting. O'Mara asked if Mamalo said she described the size of the two men on the ground. Mamalo says that it seems that she didn't.
(this is basically what happened with the first witness yesterday...she added information that wasn't in her original statement)

11:45 a.m. ET: Mamalo said she did not see that Zimmerman's face was bloody the night of the shooting. She only saw got a glance at the profile of his face

11:57 a.m. ET: Mamalo said she doesn't know who is bigger Zimmerman or Martin now.


They went to lunch...hungry asses!
 
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/0...elp-george-zimmerman--trial-day-3-prosecutors
Since the judge allowed the previous non-emergency calls Zimmerman made...the Prosecutors call Ramona Rumph back to the witnesses stand. She maintains the calls received on the 911 and non-emergency lines. She testified on the first day of trial. they are playing the 5 calls for the jury...

2:27 p.m. ET: Rumph says there is no database that identifies people who call 911 or the non-emergency line several times. Zimmerman called fives times in six months. Rumph says she wouldn't be able to tell if this is unusual for a neighborhood watch volunteer unless she did more research. Rump has been excused but is subject to being recalled.

2:26 p.m. ET: O'Mara tries asking Rumph if she hears anything of concern in Zimmerman's voice. The prosecution objects and the judge tells O'Mara he could call Rumph as his own witness.

2:22 p.m. ET: The call forms don't give Rumph any more details about the contact police officers made with any of the subjects. Rumph tells defense attorney O'Mara the names of the officers who would be able to give more details about the incidents.

2:20 p.m. ET: Rumph says police came into contact with two subjects on August 6, 2011. They also came into contact with two subjects related to the call on October 1, 2011. The prosecutor has finished his direct examination.

2:19 p.m. ET: The fifth and last call was made at 8:29 p.m. ET on February 2, 2012. Zimmerman says he's seen a black man walking around on trash days. This same man is walking about a neighbor's house. "I don't know what he's doing, I don't want to approach him, personally," says Zimmerman.

2:16 p.m. ET: The fourth non-emergency call was made at 12:53 a.m. on October 1, 2011. Zimmerman reports two "suspicious characters." "They're just hanging out, loitering," says Zimmerman. He describes them as two African American males in their mid-to-late 20's or their early 30's. "I didn't want to attract attention," he tells the dispatcher.

2:14 p.m. ET: The third non-emergency call being played in court was made at 11:08 p.m. ET on September 23, 2011. Zimmerman says someone in the neighborhood had their garage door open. "It's late and they usually don't have their garage door open all night," says Zimmerman. He tells the dispatcher they just had a neighborhood watch meeting and were told to report anything suspicious.

2:11 p.m. ET: The next non-emergency call being played in court was made at 10:20 p.m. ET on August 6, 2011. Zimmerman is reporting two young black men in their late teens. He mentions the neighborhood having been broken into recently. "They typically run away quickly and I think they head over to the next neighborhood over," says Zimmerman.

2:09 p.m. ET: Prosecutors are playing a non-emergency call made by Zimmerman reporting a suspicious person on August 3, 2011 at 6:45 p.m. ET. He says he doesn't want to give out his address because he's afraid the suspect could still be nearby. He describes the man as black and wearing a white tank top, black shorts. He says their neighborhood was robbed that day and the man looks like the person who did it.

2:05 p.m. ET: The prosecutor is going back over the 911 and non-emergency lines with Rumph and asking her about the times and dates of specific calls.
 
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2:58 p.m. ET: Jeantel says the voices heard in the background of the 911 call belong to Martin. The prosecutor has finished his direct examination and the judge has recessed court for 20 minutes.

2:57 p.m. ET: Jeantel says she lied about going to the funeral and wake because she felt guilty.

2:56 p.m. ET: A friend of Jeantel's who went to Martin's wake told her Martin was dead.

Prosecutor de la Rionda asks Jeantel why she didn't go to the wake.

"I didn't want to see the body," said Jeantel, getting emotional. She starts to wipe tears from her eyes.

2:54 p.m. ET: Jeantel talks about how she found out Martin had died. She says she didn't realize she had spoken to him the day he died.

2:51 p.m. ET: Jeantel says she was quiet for a bit on the phone and then she says she heard Martin speaking.

"He said, 'Why are you following me for?' And I heard a hard-breathing man say, 'What you doing around here?'" said Jeantel.

She also says she heard a bump and "wet grass sounds."

"I start hearing a little bit of Trayvon saying, ‘Get off, get off,'" said Jeantel.

2:47 p.m. ET: Jeantel called Martin back and he said he was walking and closer to his dad's fiance's house.

"A second later Trayvon come say [expletive]," said Jeantel. "The [expletive] behind me."

2:45 p.m. ET: Jeantel says she told Martin to start running but he said he was close to his dad's fiance's home. Then Martin told her he was going to start running "from the back."

“I start hearing wind and the phone just shut off,” said Jeantel.

2:42 p.m. ET: "He started walking home," said Jeantel. They changed the subject to the basketball game happening that day.

"And then he said that [expletive] is still following me now," said Jeantel.

The court reporter is having trouble hearing so the judge asks Jeantel to answer again.

"Now the [expletive] is following me," said Jeanel.

2:39 p.m. ET: “He just told me he wanted to try to lose him,” said Jeantel.

2:37 p.m. ET: "I asked him how the man looked like. He just told me the man looked creepy. Creepy, white. Excuse my language, cracker. Creepy [expletive] cracker," said Jeantel.

2:35 p.m. ET: "A man was watching him," said Jeantel. "He said the man kept watching him. He kept complaining that a man was just watching him."
 
They are trying to pick apart her statements. She is a tough one especially with the attitudes. :lmao: I don't watch the news.
 
Yeah...yesterday caused a bit of discussion on FB. I watched the trial when I got home and sure Rachel could have acted like she cared a little more...but she remained consistent in her testimony. Well, she admitted she originally lied when she said she went to the wake/funeral when she really didn't. But to ME...none of that mattered, but of course the question is did it matter to the jurors. :shame:

Of course I'm optimistic and my first thought was, "have y'all ever heard ANYONE from Southern Florida speak?! DUVAAALLLL COUNTY! them folks can't talk!" :lol: But folks weren't hearing that...her attitude pissed alot of folks off.

again her testimony stayed consistent, she got emotional when discussing finding out she was the last person to speak to Trayvon before he died, she clearly does NOT like the defense attorney. He even got thrown off and found himself going back/forth with her, it was funny once he realized it during the discussion on him missing his interview day with her on a Friday to interview Trayvon's brother. She was like, "yeah...we were supposed to meet on Friday but you cancelled", his response, " my apologies we had to reschedule...", her response, "yeah...to interview his brother. you could have done Thursday though", his response, ":whatever:" :lol:

Also...he was basically trying to agitate her...i think he wants the "Angry Black woman" to come out to scare the jurors. SHe was getting annoyed when they were discussing the times of the phone calls between her and Trayvon on that day. They are trying to say since there were so many calls (10-13, maybe more) how can she remember what discussion between her and Trayvon took place at one time. How does she know the comments he made were made right before Zimmerman killed him. At least that's what I got from HLN.

When the judge asked the defense how much time they needed and did they need to continue tomorrow, the defense replied they needed at least 2 more hours, Rachel said, "What?"!!! :shame: She doesn't want to be there...

She is still on the stand today...Pray for her!!
 



southsuburbs said:
Also...he was basically trying to agitate her...i think he wants the "Angry Black woman" to come out to scare the jurors. SHe was getting annoyed when they were discussing the times of the phone calls between her and Trayvon on that day. They are trying to say since there were so many calls (10-13, maybe more) how can she remember what discussion between her and Trayvon took place at one time. How does she know the comments he made were made right before Zimmerman killed him. At least that's what I got from HLN.
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He's irritating. Whether she remembers the exact time she talked to him or not, she does remember what Trayvon said when he was being followed while on the phone with her. That's all that matters.
 
REading this online...it seems she is standing her ground against Defense Attorney West:

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/0...y-determine-george-zimmerman-trial-day-4-fate

9:45 a.m. ET: Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda, FDLE agents, and Martin's mother were present for Jeantel's interview on April 2, 2012.

9:43 a.m. ET: On April 2, 2012, Jeantel gave her first interview with law enforcement. She was under oath and the coversation was recorded.

9:40 a.m. ET: Jeantel is explaining how she spoke with an ABC reporter in March 2012 and Martin.

9:36 a.m. ET: West is asking Jeantel how the police eventually got in touch with her after the shooting. Jeantel said she did not approach the police.


9:33 a.m. ET: West is asking why Jeantel didn't tell him in a previous interview that Martin told her a "creepy [expletive] cracker" was following him. Jeantel corrected West and said she did say creepy, but did not mention "cracker." West admitted that she did say "creepy."

9:29 a.m. ET: "He described a person, a person that was watching him and following him and that was kind of strange," said Jeantel.

9:26 a.m. ET: Jeantel said she thought it was racially charged, because Zimmerman was chasing him in the rain.

9:24 a.m. ET: Jeantel said Crump asked her if she thought the shooting was a racial thing, and she replied that she thought it was.

9:21 a.m ET: "Then he said the man didn't follow him again. Then he looked back and saw the man again. The man started getting closer, and Trayvon turned around and said 'why are you following me.' Then I heard him fall, and then the phone hung up. I called back and texted, but no response. In my mind, I thought it was just a fight. Then I found out this tragic story. Thank you, Diamond Eugene," said West reading the rest of Jeantel's letter.

9:17 a.m. ET: "I was on the phone when Trayvon decided to go to the corner store. It started to rain so he decided to walk through another complex, because it was raining too hard. He started walking, and then noticed someone was following him, and he decided to find a shortcut," said West reading Jeantel's letter to Martin's mother.

9:14 a.m. ET: Jeantel said she signed the letter with her nickname and her mother's last name so she didn't use her own name. West is now reading the letter aloud for the jury.

9:12 a.m. ET: West asked Jeantel if she can read the letter, and she said she can't because she can't read cursive.

9:11 a.m. ET: Jeantel said she wrote the letter with a friend for Sybrina Fulton, Martin's mother.

9:09 a.m. ET: The prosecution is objecting to a letter Jeantel wrote being entered into evidence. The attorneys are now at a sidebar.

9:08 a.m. ET: West is going back over the fact that Jeantel lied about going to the hospital to see Martin's body.

9:05 a.m. ET: Defense attorney West is asking Jeantel about a conversation she had with the Martin family attorney Ben Crump. West said the first time she was asked by Crump what she heard over the phone she said, "What are you talking about?" Jeantel agreed that according to the transcript she did say, "What are you talking about?"

9:01 a.m. ET: Jeantel is back on the witness stand, and the jury is being seated.
 
One thing I saw while watching the coverage yesterday that I didn't like...and even on the first day with the neighbor that added to her story...these witnesses talk too much. They elaborate too much on their answer.

Yesterday, Rachel was finishing Defense attorney West's questions/statements...giving him more than he asked. Not sure if it was helpful information, but I found that odd.
 
9:51 a.m. ET: West told Jeantel if he is harsh with his tone it is not, because he is accusing her of doing something wrong.

9:49 a.m. ET: West is grilling Jeantel about how her conversation with law enforcement was conducted on April 2, 2012.

9:46 a.m. ET: One of the Martin family
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One of my friends posted on FB, "Thank you Judge...ASK A NEW GATDAMN QUESTION", so I'm assuming the judge must have told West to move it along.
 
West is going after her HARD!! She's showing major attitude!

10:14 a.m. ET: West is going over all the different opportunities Jeantel had to mention "get off, get off," but choose not to bring it up.

10:10 a.m. ET: West is grilling Jeantel about why she did not mentioned hearing Martin say "get off, get off," in the past.

10:07 a.m. ET: West is asking Jeantel why she did not tell Fulton that she heard Martin tell Zimmerman to get off of him. Jeantel said Fulton did not ask her about her about that.

10:04 a.m. ET: West asked a question Jeantel didn't understand, and the judge told him to break it down so she can understand.

10:01 a.m. ET: Jeantel said Fulton teared up during her April 2, 2012 interview with law enforcement, when she recounted what happened to Martin.

9:58 a.m. ET: West asked, "You were very sensitive to Ms. Fulton's feelings, when you answered Mr. De La Rionda's questions?"

Jeantel answered, "Yes sir."

West asked, "And that is why for example, that you cleaned up some of the language Trayvon Martine used?"

Jeantel answered, "Yes sir."
 
southsuburbs said:
REading this online...it seems she is standing her ground against Defense Attorney West:

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/0...y-determine-george-zimmerman-trial-day-4-fate

9:45 a.m. ET: Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda, FDLE agents, and Martin's mother were present for Jeantel's interview on April 2, 2012.

9:43 a.m. ET: On April 2, 2012, Jeantel gave her first interview with law enforcement. She was under oath and the coversation was recorded.

9:40 a.m. ET: Jeantel is explaining how she spoke with an ABC reporter in March 2012 and Martin.

9:36 a.m. ET: West is asking Jeantel how the police eventually got in touch with her after the shooting. Jeantel said she did not approach the police.


9:33 a.m. ET: West is asking why Jeantel didn't tell him in a previous interview that Martin told her a "creepy [expletive] cracker" was following him. Jeantel corrected West and said she did say creepy, but did not mention "cracker." West admitted that she did say "creepy."

9:29 a.m. ET: "He described a person, a person that was watching him and following him and that was kind of strange," said Jeantel.

9:26 a.m. ET: Jeantel said she thought it was racially charged, because Zimmerman was chasing him in the rain.

9:24 a.m. ET: Jeantel said Crump asked her if she thought the shooting was a racial thing, and she replied that she thought it was.

9:21 a.m ET: "Then he said the man didn't follow him again. Then he looked back and saw the man again. The man started getting closer, and Trayvon turned around and said 'why are you following me.' Then I heard him fall, and then the phone hung up. I called back and texted, but no response. In my mind, I thought it was just a fight. Then I found out this tragic story. Thank you, Diamond Eugene," said West reading the rest of Jeantel's letter.

9:17 a.m. ET: "I was on the phone when Trayvon decided to go to the corner store. It started to rain so he decided to walk through another complex, because it was raining too hard. He started walking, and then noticed someone was following him, and he decided to find a shortcut," said West reading Jeantel's letter to Martin's mother.

9:14 a.m. ET: Jeantel said she signed the letter with her nickname and her mother's last name so she didn't use her own name. West is now reading the letter aloud for the jury.

9:12 a.m. ET: West asked Jeantel if she can read the letter, and she said she can't because she can't read cursive.

9:11 a.m. ET: Jeantel said she wrote the letter with a friend for Sybrina Fulton, Martin's mother.

9:09 a.m. ET: The prosecution is objecting to a letter Jeantel wrote being entered into evidence. The attorneys are now at a sidebar.

9:08 a.m. ET: West is going back over the fact that Jeantel lied about going to the hospital to see Martin's body.

9:05 a.m. ET: Defense attorney West is asking Jeantel about a conversation she had with the Martin family attorney Ben Crump. West said the first time she was asked by Crump what she heard over the phone she said, "What are you talking about?" Jeantel agreed that according to the transcript she did say, "What are you talking about?"

9:01 a.m. ET: Jeantel is back on the witness stand, and the jury is being seated.
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I'm watching it also and I feel bad for this young lady. Her prep team didn't do a good job of getting her prepared. :smh:
 
southsuburbs said:
West is going after her HARD!! She's showing major attitude!

10:14 a.m. ET: West is going over all the different opportunities Jeantel had to mention "get off, get off," but choose not to bring it up.

10:10 a.m. ET: West is grilling Jeantel about why she did not mentioned hearing Martin say "get off, get off," in the past.
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This is not truly accurate. She told the D.A. and Law Enforcement because they asked specifically. She did not tell Ben Crump and Sabrina Fulton because they did not ask.
 
jag4life said:
This is not truly accurate. She told the D.A. and Law Enforcement because they asked specifically. She did not tell Ben Crump and Sabrina Fulton because they did not ask.
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Right. This man is an azzhole and he is going to hurt Zimmerman.
 
Jag-BR said:
Right. This man is an azzhole and he is going to hurt Zimmerman.
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I'm reading it online...for the folks watching it online...are the commentators talking about the jurors reaction to her testimony? Do they seem annoyed that she has an attitude?
 
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